Re: Latest Tomcat release question...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 9/18/12 7:10 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: Thanks for the heads up about the memory issue. I looked over the release notes before I posted here and did not remember reading that. http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/changelog.html It's bug 53535: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53535 I do not use spring either and glad for that but I do use JAX-WS and am working on swithing to JAX-RS and there are quite a few libraries for JAX-RS. This weekend I will look at using 7.0.30. It really comes down to the number of classes that get scanned. Lots od deps = lots of classes (usually). - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBZyu8ACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PC9TwCgw2qRGo/B0HjjQJycPsK1G9hZ v9IAnjKhBC+gZL3iUoHIY5MTR1Ph9v/v =C59w -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Latest Tomcat release question...
Ok does scanning scan the classes inside the library jars the app uses? What would be the point of that? Thanks, -Tony --- On Wed, 9/19/12, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net Subject: Re: Latest Tomcat release question... To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 7:38 AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 9/18/12 7:10 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: Thanks for the heads up about the memory issue. I looked over the release notes before I posted here and did not remember reading that. http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/changelog.html It's bug 53535: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53535 I do not use spring either and glad for that but I do use JAX-WS and am working on swithing to JAX-RS and there are quite a few libraries for JAX-RS. This weekend I will look at using 7.0.30. It really comes down to the number of classes that get scanned. Lots od deps = lots of classes (usually). - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBZyu8ACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PC9TwCgw2qRGo/B0HjjQJycPsK1G9hZ v9IAnjKhBC+gZL3iUoHIY5MTR1Ph9v/v =C59w -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Latest Tomcat release question...
On 19 Sep 2012, at 16:45, Tony Anecito adanec...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok does scanning scan the classes inside the library jars the app uses? What would be the point of that? How does Tomcat know which is a special library jar and which is not? (Unless you provide it with a list of jars to ignore.) p Thanks, -Tony --- On Wed, 9/19/12, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net Subject: Re: Latest Tomcat release question... To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 7:38 AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 9/18/12 7:10 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: Thanks for the heads up about the memory issue. I looked over the release notes before I posted here and did not remember reading that. http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/changelog.html It's bug 53535: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53535 I do not use spring either and glad for that but I do use JAX-WS and am working on swithing to JAX-RS and there are quite a few libraries for JAX-RS. This weekend I will look at using 7.0.30. It really comes down to the number of classes that get scanned. Lots od deps = lots of classes (usually). - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBZyu8ACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PC9TwCgw2qRGo/B0HjjQJycPsK1G9hZ v9IAnjKhBC+gZL3iUoHIY5MTR1Ph9v/v =C59w -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Latest Tomcat release question...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 9/19/12 11:44 AM, Tony Anecito wrote: Ok does scanning scan the classes inside the library jars the app uses? What would be the point of that? As previously discussed, this is a (somewhat foolish) requirement of the servlet specification. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBaHv4ACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PAbDgCeOoanoPX6mJEtJSiAKMaUux0F 32oAoJxtrevVlx4g0fdUpBL5AgSq1QJn =bziI -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Latest Tomcat release question...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 9/18/12 1:58 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: Has anyone tried the newest Tomcat release and noticed any performance differences? My startup is 20 seconds but it is not often I restart my Tomcat server due to it being so stable but I am interested in any performance gain when it is executing and a request is going through the tomcat code before it reaches my code or after and the response is going back through the Tomcat layers. As for startup, I just restarted my local dev instance (running 1 webapp with a reasonable amount of db-loading in a ServletContextListener): Sep 18, 2012 3:04:29 PM org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener init INFO: The APR based Apache Tomcat Native library which allows optimal performance in production environments was not found on the java.library.path: /usr/local/apache-tomcat-7.0.30/lib Sep 18, 2012 3:04:34 PM org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol start INFO: Starting ProtocolHandler [http-nio-127.0.0.1-8217] Sep 18, 2012 3:04:34 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start INFO: Server startup in 4115 ms So it's 4 seconds for me. My system config: Mac OS X 10.8.1 Oracle JDK 1.7.0_07 Tomcat 7.0.30 Intel Core i7 2.5GHz 2x4 (8 logical cores) 8GiB RAM There are 3 things I can think of that could make your Tomcat start slowly: 1. Insufficient entropy in /dev/random 2. DNS timeouts 3. Your webapp does a lot of stuff on startup - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBYyyUACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PAb8ACffNZc584OIXwKQZkaUXOT6MAj bewAnRBCcBqgm/L0n86PouPUC4WeFc41 =HGEj -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Latest Tomcat release question...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/09/2012 20:27, Christopher Schultz wrote: There are 3 things I can think of that could make your Tomcat start slowly: 1. Insufficient entropy in /dev/random 2. DNS timeouts 3. Your webapp does a lot of stuff on startup One of which is likely to be JAR scanning thanks to the default mandatory scanning required by Servlet 3.0. There are ways stop this completely if this is the issue. Mark -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQWMu6AAoJEBDAHFovYFnnApgP/RsLfy6mZ9EzPbINTmqs4AQ+ 5eVMhooWG6IBztV0ePECRHuYXc4ERGGIW2f6PeZIp9Hv7FpredVHYoCJe3isGEap 5dbjTdwW8dL9f2vxPJu/NU0V0osnLsm5glyOa8gf4/yl6zvreYoSe6lrGiRJCfAX qHAorWB0+Nd8amcDlf+Nr7Ky/XwR75Tn24vf9AqJyWnFX0W83JchdyQPaOlsKpy+ viVCghlbF0hG9qD/IxyoGrfCGJonpVQ+whHwcLiA3u0FxNgSsm0eTKjDaG/eidXc f88/btU9fANtPH6X31DCISSy9sqpNXS1GbSyU3Cl/GE98us2JfWJn3piHjbW6FDI IkXETQSSh2iQNtq4QkJ5JbWhT3uL/ycANr8aU5zePJZxymHQhYk0e7QZgBFXS3vi zLywFj/JHeLmVisRVG24f3wWHRwtJvVHHZWIWgziMcMK46AI+uPGPRFChtXXpumS 5hRUAfERmeMxovDTnBCRvmMbDMrZYIz4n6nUw3CMNegk0ExxjlQYOB/iUww7kvtU OSd2TaEwcY9oUKsYpWScC5tvyONR66f2PwTwejjjvu9qjvLw82L7n6ealruvxb5r 4H1HdueKUTqkH+hNHqPMuJIFKltL0Yg931/jAjv/LcqNi377zPpnlDQAsagIL4yV Az0UdhjBM8/hobQWAh7d =v7rB -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Latest Tomcat release question...
Thanks Christopher, I have not started using 7.0.30 yet and I do have connection pools setup on startup I believe 5 or 6 of them which may account for the 20 seconds. What I was interested in is after startup using 7.0.30 has anyone noticed a performance improvement for their apps? Thanks, -Tony --- On Tue, 9/18/12, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net Subject: Re: Latest Tomcat release question... To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012, 1:27 PM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 9/18/12 1:58 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: Has anyone tried the newest Tomcat release and noticed any performance differences? My startup is 20 seconds but it is not often I restart my Tomcat server due to it being so stable but I am interested in any performance gain when it is executing and a request is going through the tomcat code before it reaches my code or after and the response is going back through the Tomcat layers. As for startup, I just restarted my local dev instance (running 1 webapp with a reasonable amount of db-loading in a ServletContextListener): Sep 18, 2012 3:04:29 PM org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener init INFO: The APR based Apache Tomcat Native library which allows optimal performance in production environments was not found on the java.library.path: /usr/local/apache-tomcat-7.0.30/lib Sep 18, 2012 3:04:34 PM org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol start INFO: Starting ProtocolHandler [http-nio-127.0.0.1-8217] Sep 18, 2012 3:04:34 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start INFO: Server startup in 4115 ms So it's 4 seconds for me. My system config: Mac OS X 10.8.1 Oracle JDK 1.7.0_07 Tomcat 7.0.30 Intel Core i7 2.5GHz 2x4 (8 logical cores) 8GiB RAM There are 3 things I can think of that could make your Tomcat start slowly: 1. Insufficient entropy in /dev/random 2. DNS timeouts 3. Your webapp does a lot of stuff on startup - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBYyyUACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PAb8ACffNZc584OIXwKQZkaUXOT6MAj bewAnRBCcBqgm/L0n86PouPUC4WeFc41 =HGEj -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Latest Tomcat release question...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 9/18/12 4:55 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: Thanks Christopher, I have not started using 7.0.30 yet and I do have connection pools setup on startup I believe 5 or 6 of them which may account for the 20 seconds. What I was interested in is after startup using 7.0.30 has anyone noticed a performance improvement for their apps? No, I haven't, but there was a fairly gaping performance/memory problem fixed in 7.0.30 and I would highly recommend the upgrade. I didn't notice because I have very little in the way of support libraries, etc. in my webapps. Basically, I don't use Spring, so I don't have to wait 20 minutes to deploy my webapp ;) - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBY564ACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PDDWQCdEclcddNFo+zRP3fu3oekUhPe eQ4An0g5OX5M49Uo4lwMZjJoz5v88PKF =psrC -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Latest Tomcat release question...
Hi Christopher, Thanks for the heads up about the memory issue. I looked over the release notes before I posted here and did not remember reading that. I do not use spring either and glad for that but I do use JAX-WS and am working on swithing to JAX-RS and there are quite a few libraries for JAX-RS. This weekend I will look at using 7.0.30. Best Regards, -Tony --- On Tue, 9/18/12, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net Subject: Re: Latest Tomcat release question... To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2012, 3:29 PM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 9/18/12 4:55 PM, Tony Anecito wrote: Thanks Christopher, I have not started using 7.0.30 yet and I do have connection pools setup on startup I believe 5 or 6 of them which may account for the 20 seconds. What I was interested in is after startup using 7.0.30 has anyone noticed a performance improvement for their apps? No, I haven't, but there was a fairly gaping performance/memory problem fixed in 7.0.30 and I would highly recommend the upgrade. I didn't notice because I have very little in the way of support libraries, etc. in my webapps. Basically, I don't use Spring, so I don't have to wait 20 minutes to deploy my webapp ;) - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBY564ACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PDDWQCdEclcddNFo+zRP3fu3oekUhPe eQ4An0g5OX5M49Uo4lwMZjJoz5v88PKF =psrC -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
