An FYI
Hey Out there in CYBERLAND.. I am planning a trip to cleveland ohio to have the 1500 tuned by the master himself. MR CORNELL.. I have been fairly impressed with his hi level of customer satisfaction. I am happy with what PCW has done for me but they are just too far away from Colorado to suit me. So I am going to spend a day or two on the dyno and renting the track for some passes. I will be bringing a friend with a 1427 long rod also... I am telling you all this cuz it would be great to meet some of you in the area. You may be interested in watching this beast perform also and perhaps you could run your bikes down the track... anyone interested ? Could someone post this to the non tech list for me ? I am thinking that this could be really cool... April or May is the current timeframe... Take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: argh!!!!
You should try and actually read the frigging email Paul... You somehow have subscribed to this list. NOW you need to unsubscribe from it...IT SAYS RIGHT IN THIS EMAIL HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE READ THIS FULL EMAIL Oh and Take care Paul Monaghan wrote: Hi there.I keep getting mail about v-maxes and I don't know why. I've got a '90 max myself. Please stop all of this mail :) Mon __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Oil
Yea, but does anyone run it with a HIGH HP motor. Your clutch may only slip a little and you never even know it..When you are running a 190hp and it drops to 170 how do you notice that difference? I'll tell you, only at the track or on a dyno.. I have heard that the synthetics are TOOO slippery.. But they may work good on stock vmax's... Take care Phil Robert Degrippo wrote: ALOT of us use synthetic oil in the max. ALOT of us using it have had no problems. Just do it. You will like it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I know this is an old subject for a lot of you but I am a little confused about the running of synthetic oil in the max. I read where some do and some say it is not good for the clutch. Can someone enlighten me a little as I am a new owner of one of these beastsThanks Doug . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Oil
No, Not really. I have a clutch slippage problem because I run at the track with a fresh clutch and run 130 the first pass, then 127, then 124 and never to go back up again. BUT, I'm not running synthetic in my bike. I was running castrol 10.w30 for cars I am going to switch to the yamalube and I am going to stay with it. I just know that with a slipping clutch how incredibly sneaky the source of the problem can be. I think John at PCW told me not to use synthetic as he had observed slipping clutches cuz the stuff works t good. My point was merely to not overlook the fact that if you have 120 HP vmax and the clutch is costing you 10% you would have a heck of a time finding it if the oil was T slippery... I have run at the track many passes and never had a problem with the Yamaha oil so I am going to use it and go from there. Take Care Phil Thomas Powell wrote: Phil, do you have any dyno sheets that show slippage? I run BEL RAY superbike full syn and it did not slip at just over 200 hp on the juice. I do know that a dyno is easier on everything than the track so it may slip at the track and like you said I really would not know. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Daytona
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I come on Hal! Jon, Kyle, Stan and I are all going. We are going to show off a few UFO secrets at Daytona this year. Not to mention we are going to have some fun with Jon's Shootout bike at a local track here on the way. Yee Ha! Scott When is Daytona ??? Scott what is Jon's Phone number /website ? Thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: barnett alternative...cheerz kelly...
Eric Harnish wrote: Funny thing I bought my Barnett plate from someone who said it slipped when he installed a nitrous system . I now have a operating nitrous system it does not slip. I"m using stock steels disks with the half disk replaced with a full disk . Eric H. Half disk replaced with the full disk What does that mean to you Eric ?? Thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Potential new Vmax Owner
you can natter on these listz...perfect... maxes are special...unique...go for it... :) Yo Simon, what does natter mean ?? Thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
How do I ?....
run a compression test ? I have the tester and now am not sure how to run it Thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: PCW's Clutch Spring
Hey Guys With all this talk about the clutch I thought i would ramble on with my thoughts/findings... I Have 191HP but I have 114 FT/lbs of torque. I am seemingly running thru clutches in a couple of 1/4mile passes. My experience with the barnett has been favorable over the stock. I use Yamalube for motoroil when my max was stock and would get 40 passes on a clutch or more I also would get out of the hole really quick and to do that you have to beat the shi* out of your clutch, my point is the barnett clutch, with two springs(don't know if that is the double d or not) and yamaha motor oil would last a long long time. If you are not experiencing this than i would think you have something wrong with your bike. My situation with my bike now is 130mph down the 1/4 1st pass, 127MPH second pass, 124 third and there is where it stays. I have spoken with PCW and UFO and both agree that it is a clutch problem I am in the process of troubleshooting and I am looking at measuring overall clutch thickness. Then if nothing comes up there probably a lockup and if that doesn't work.hmmm Take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Lockup Clutch?
Only makes ? :-) How do you live with ONLY 107ft/lbs ? You know, to make matters worse my bike is corrected at this altitude. My actual hp and torque is much lower. OH well., John suspects that the thickness of the clutch pack is not thick enough. In other words if it isn't thick enough than even with a lockup I would still slip. I have thought about this and it makes sense. It would explain why I get a couple of passes and then i just totally lose about 6mph. I think the fibres wear a little on those first couple of passes and then they get down to whatever thickness and I start to slip... Dunno for sure. But I will be measuring them soon and then adjusting the thickness to compensate. Rusty, what is "the last half friction disk" and what is a "full one" ? I am not in the know on that.. Thanks Phil Rusty Morgan wrote: My bike only made 107 ft/lbs of torque, but, I've got over 3 years on my clutch so far. I did the double-D (2 springs), and replacing the last 1/2 friction disk with a full one, removing the wave washer. And believe it or not, I've run synthetic Mobil1 "V-Twin" 20w-50 oil the whole time. I take it to the drag strip only two or three times a year though, but, even in the heat of the day, my best e.t. mph came after about 6 passes. "Chromie" Paul Beaumont has the lockup clutch on his turbo Max. Ask him if he has had good luck from his setup. For someone who drags their bike regulary, I would think that this would be the way to go anyway. But, what do I know?! Rusty Morgan '93 1500 Vmax "TorqueMax" VMOA#226 '00 Yamaha Kodiak '94 LT-1 Firebird Formula '99 Dodge Ram Sport QuadCab 360 . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: power for the max
No I'm not double correcting. However I think the bike was fouled and lost the 10 hp then trueblue 28 wrote: Maybe you're double correcting! Correcting a figure that was already corrected for ele... . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Electrex
No the rectifier is a custom built one for the vmax no year is mentioned. donald smith wrote: Phil, is the rectifier/regulator for a 96 and newer? Its a heavily finned and has a external ground. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Electrex
Thomas Powell wrote: Did you get the one for the V-Max or the Venture wich is suppose to be higher output. got the one for the vmax per PCW's recommendation . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Electrex
Ok I am attacking my charging problem this way. I have ordered the Electrex STator and Rectifier for the the vmax. It should be in, within a couple of days. I am also going to get the big battery. the yuasa 300cca. If this doesn't take care of my charging problems I will take the bike in. I am getting the stator and rectifier from Electrex and I have never got anything from them before but PCW recommended them to me so I will let you all know what i think. I will probably replace the battery in the spring as I think that it is ok. Next up is the mickey thompson MCR2 tire and more parts being chromed. I can't wait for next year !!! take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: power for the max
José Luis Guzmán wrote: what changes give extra horse power for the max with out going to turbos or nos? is there like a kit that anyone recomends? thanks jose Jose' your asking a loaded question here. Valves cams pistions intake and exhaust. I did a 1500 Long Rod normally aspirated motor. Got me 191Hp at sea level. The other kit is called a Tourmaster. It is i think 160 HP both come from PCW give em a call take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Solid Motor mounts Frame Braces
Max Rider wrote: If you were to take a Vmax frame and draw all possible lines between the engine mounts you will find that the solid mounts provide increased stiffeness at 15 cross points along 5 planes. What is missing is that 6th plane (of the frame around the engine) at the back of the engine. Front to back cross braces help address this. For more improvement you should also add in some gussets near the swing arm and in the square frame section (that outlines the front of the battery box). cheers, Terry Ok, Now we all know who does the best drugs. hey terry you got a picture of this scenario ? phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Max against the world
Hey John Well you must be a newcomer.. I'm at 6000 ft here in colorado. An 10.20 run at sea level translates to an 11.20 run up here. I sometimes take it for granted that everyone on this lists knows that.. ;-).. Later. Phil First off , if I buy a new Busa and it only goes 11.20's I'm bringing it back to the dealer! My Max stock went 11.30 at 119. What about the Ducati and how about a Ninja 750(new)? And Don last year I messed with my friends' injected Suzuki 750 and he left me up in my own rear tire smoke. Part of the reason why I ask these questions. Lets hear it! John Wochna . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Hey phil
Hi Bruce, sorry for not answering you sooner. I have solid motor mounts but no frame brace. Honestly, I don't know what the fuss is about with the frame brace. It kind of looks cool but what does it do ? I have almost 80 HP over a stock vmax and don't feel the need for one... Take care Phil Bruce Trimble wrote: hey Phil with all that HP do u run solid motor mounts, frame braces or both? I know they made my stock bike hookup much better I would guess u do run these things Bruce . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: V-Max V1 #1054
Interesting how the subject changed to this v1 #1054 ... Anyway, Yea, I'm not into taking the vmax around corners at hi rates of speed. So this would explain my lack of understanding the frame braces. Thanks for the input Kelly... \ Take care Phil Horsepower has nothing to do with the need for a frame brace. It's whether you like the frame flexing as you take a turn (and the more lean angle, the more you notice the flex). Now, if you have solid mounts you may not need the frame brace as much as with stock mounts, but even the solid mounts don't turn the engine into a stressed-member. When I put the frame braces on my 'Max, I was astounded at the difference they made. And mine are the clamp-on type, not even the weld-on type. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: V-Max V1 #1054
Henry Jackson wrote: - Original Message - Interesting how the subject changed to this v1 #1054 ... Anyway, It's because Kelly receives emails from the Tech List in "digest mode". Rather than getting the individual emails as they are posted, multiple emails are grouped together and sent periodically (not sure how often). If you're in digest mode, it comes to you with the subject "V-Max V1 # ". When they hit "reply" it puts the digest subject in automatically. Folks should really change it to what ever the subject was that they are replying to but I assume folks sometimes forget. Ahh, That explains it ..!! I've always wondered about the change and the similiarity in the emails... Thanks for the explanation Henry.. Take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: max v. busa
I can almost beat a stock one Sat Tara is this a typo. I can beat a stock busa on every pass. It isn't even close.. I think I am around .5 second quicker. The mph is about even with a slight edge to the busa, I think but weight has been so radically different that it really hasn't been a fair comparison... Let the record show.. I will ROAST a stock busa at the track... :) Take care Phil "Sat Tara S. Khalsa" wrote: on 11/12/00 4:35 PM, BRADFORD at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone raced a busa yet? http://pages.prodigy.net/bradford/ That would be Phil. He's raced against a Busa many times. He can almost beat a stock one. In case you haven't heard, Phil's got a 191 hp PCW monster chain drive long rod motor. Phil's bike will leave my stock max for dead. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: max v. busa
Uh, Phil, EVERY PASS? If memory serves me correctly... I haven't been out last few times at the track, but when you and Dave were first running, I recall that it was REALLY close, with Dave's Busa winning as often as not. It was a close race with Dave and his 170lbs and me with my 220 lbs but Dave's bike wasn't stock anymore it was sprocketed and jetted so not really a stock busa comparision and He NEVER beat me. But I think He and I only raced once or twice. Pat N. on the other hand has a "stock" busa and me on it ran 11.28, me on my bike ran 10.81 with all kinds of technical issues. I guarantee I will run 10.50's this spring with a 10.40 soon to follow. ... Anyway, at worst a little artistic license... The point I was making is that MOST Maxers don't have your motor, and a stock Busa is going to fry most Maxes. I know what you meant but don't be spreading rumours that a stock Busa can beat me cuz it can't ... FOR the record I am smiling and hope you know I'm kidding :)It is arguably faster tho. ...I will find out for sure in the spring. Incidently, Yea the busa will blow a stock max totally away in every facet of racing. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: PLEASE STOP THE BUSA STUFF.. NOT HERE
Robert C De Grippo wrote: COULD WE PLEASE NOT GET INTO THE MAX VS BUSA CRAP AGAIN. WE HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT HERE ALREADY. OVER AND OVER AND OVER GSS Wow !!! BOB A BUSA IS A FINE MACHINE BUT WITH 10 GRAND INVESTED IN MY MAX I FEEL THE NEED TO GO "INTO THE CRAP" WHENEVER SOMEONE THINKS THAT 10 GRAND INVESTED IN A VMAX WON'T BEAT A BUSA. WHY THIS IS SUCH A SENSITIVE THING FOR YOU ? DON'T YOU WANT TO PROMOTE THE VMAX ? ADDITIONALLY JUST BECAUSE WE HASHED SOMETHING 3 MONTHS AGO DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE GUYS KNOW ABOUT IT WHO HAVE JOINED IN THE LAST 3 MONTHS. INCIDENTLY CAPS MEAN YOUR YELLING AND THAT IS RUDE. take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Fun weekend
Thomas Powell wrote: Well we just had the first ( I think) 50th state expo this weekend. Everything from car and bike shows to hydraulics to stereo sound-offs to bikini/hunk contests..oh and a DynoJet Dyno SHOOTOUT!!! It started at 10 and the wifey and I got there around 2ish. The top dog at the time was a new 1200 Ninja with 168 hp (quite impressive just a pipe and jet kit). The guy was all smug in the corner pretty content with his run. The Dyno guys saw me and asked if I was going to run. When I said yes he just looked at the Ninja guy and said "it is all over now!!!" You could see a big question mark came over his face as if he was saying to himself "you gotta be kiddin". Well that question was soon wiped off for good when the ole girl pulled a 199.5. I was pretty happy but only .5hp away from my personal goal. As the day went on I decided to pull the can and short pipe and give it another go with just an uncapped Walker/Hindle header. Can you say LOUD??? Well it was good for a couple of ponies and I passed 200202.2. Very happy. 202 HP ??? You have a nitroused tourmaster ??? congrats Thomas Take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Oil Test
Robert C De Grippo wrote: Ya...everyone should read these articles. It would sure end alot of the OIL BS going on here. I know I am using one of the BEST motorcycle specific oils made. Where are these articles ?? Thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: UFO Seat - Long Distance Evaluation
who is this person ? I live in Arvada too !!! Brandon ? Phil trueblue 28 wrote: Oh where do you live? I live in Arvada. John has a bike with the Sportmax seat you can ride---I took it out for a couple of hours---and he even said I could keep it overnite...anyway, it was the first time I could spend a couple of hours on a Max without real pain, so I bought one! He does guarantee everything, maybe you should come out and try one. on 11/5/00 6:01 PM, trueblue 28 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, John Furber rides on his own seat, and he's 6'4"-- 6'5"...why don't you talk to him---if you don't like it he'll take it back. Since Furbur is just up the road a half hour, I'll check it out with him and see if he'll do a thicker seat one of these days. best, Sat Tara . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Times
Well the term stock is subjective and it means different things to different people... I was racing a hayabusa this year against a guy who told me his was stock. I figured out later that he had a sprocket change in his bike. This guy runs 9.4's with a turbo blackbird and he still considered the busa stock. He has years and years of experience. So it is all in what you perceive as stock.I told you what I consider stock and you told me what you consider stock. I mean if you put an after market oil filter or oil or spark plugs in your bike is it still stock ? See what I mean ? Dunno if it makes sense or not but I'm on my second beer.;-). Incidently at sea level in the one time i raced at sea level with my "stock" vmax I ran an 11.21 I feel I could have ran a hi 10 over the course of a few weekends... Take care Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Phil why would you call a bike stock when changes are made to it? Like a pipe or jet kit what have you. The term stock means stock the way it came from the factory! Kurt 2000 VEE~MAX VMOA #1159 . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Mickey Thompsons
Hey all Who do you recommend I use to purchase the Mickey Thompson Tire ? I want the 7 second tire Thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: PCW engine feedback needed.
As the owner of a 1500 Long Rod Motor I can speak to this subject. Feedback on my engine goes as follows: The engine is really strong. I would tell you that it is way better than it was stock/with nitrous. I raced the bike at the track and it runs 10.8's with a bad clutch and a very average tire at 6000 ft (probably 9.8's at sea level). I have beaten the hayabusa routinely down the track although it is closer than I would have hoped for but I think that I can attribute this to the clutch and when the clutch was good I was not ready for that much hpMake no mistake about the PCW motor it is really strong. My only real problem with this bike is no one can help with my problems. ie Tuning the bike is a pain in the arse with my limited understanding of flatsides and the contributions the electrical makes in terms of performance. The bike is now unique and good vfour mechanics are hard to come by. If something nukes right now I am in deep doodoo ... I would describe customer service from PCW as a total joke. Your best bet is not to think of John Gainey as any kind of "real" business man. John is the mad mechanic and totally eccentric. He can be a complete gentleman one minute and a total butthead the next... I would have paid him a visit to his shop on more than one occaision to let him know what i think of his attitude if he was not 2000 miles away But now I will tell you that I think he is probably the best Vmax mechanic out there. I suspect that Jon Cornell is the best vmax tuner but I don't know for sure. The only mistake I made in purchasing the Long Rod was paying my money up front. You don't pay up front with PCW. You will get burned. I did. He did not have any reason to jerk me around yet once my bike was payed for it sat for almost another 1 1/2 years... I would recommend that you tell John that you pay when you get your DYNO sheet and not until then just for his parts that he has to purchase to build your bike. Kosy, you want to play you have to pay in more than one way !! But for me it was worth it cuz now I can smoke anything on the road normally aspirated...I could easily add nitrous to this bike and I would be right there with the turbo bikes. I choose not to do that just yet but I am thinking towards the end of racing next season I will do just that... I would recommend PCW for a long rod motor. Take Care Colo Phil kosy wrote: Any Tourmaster or Long Rod owners out there that can give me some feedback on their engines? Problems encountered, resolutions, customer service etc. I am considering placing an order for a Long Rod which is a considerable amount of $ so I need your help. You can reply privately if you want or just keep it in the list. . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: PCW engine feedback needed/Mickey Thompsons
Thanks Steve, I was not talking about drag bikes tho, I can keep with the turbo bikes that are not wheelie/slick combo'd. Certainly your hair dryer is at a higher "amperage" than my "whiff" BTW whats a whiff ? Take care Phil VMaxed wrote: Huh, is Phil starting a grudge match? Hair dryer vs. the whiff. The hair dryer will blow the whiff away ;-) Here, I'll even help you find that Mickey Thompson...call George at Road Racing Services: 303-789-5427. Steve Burnett . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: [Vmax] Next Generation VMax?
Its ugly... Your normal ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me or is this thing ugly? . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: UFO
Not to stir it up or anything but whatever happened to this challenge. A perfect opportunity to find out who is the better exhaust... I wish I could put PCW and Jon in a contest with my bike and the vgas vs the pcw flatsides and see who could bring out the most hp out of my bike... I may still get jon to tune my bike Take care Phil Hal wrote: Don, I think this whole thread is a little silly. But in the interest of accuracy and to disseminate the facts instead of opinion, I've got a proposal for you. I've seen your exhaust up close and personal. I don't know of anyone else that has the Marks 4-2 system in Texas. I believe that at this time my exhaust is the only UFO 4-2 to make it down here too. What I propose is this: Find a neutral tuner, make a couple of tuning runs on the dyno, then 3 test passes of each system as is. Swap pipes, retune the bikes, and run 3 more dynos and see what we've got. I'm willing to pony up half the costs if you're interested. We could even have Vern or some other VMOA member monitor the proceedings and offer up the results to the VBoost for a future issue. Whatcha say? Interested? Hal . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re:
This sums it up nicely for me also. Nothing personal regarding the love of the vmax. He has told me before that the vmax is a joke. Which is a conversation from ten plus years ago. Dale's claim to fame with the vmax is that he capitalized early on aftermarket products. I will say that the only part I ever bought from him was a shift light and it worked really well. vmax97 wrote: Dale Walker is in business to make a profit like any sucessful business is. His parts are way overpriced . He also has parts for many types of bikes and does not have a serious interest in the V-Max as some of the other vendors do. Many V-Max vendors give a discount to VMOA members, Walker does not. Several of the V-Max vendors belong to the VMOA, Walker does not. Several of the V-Max vendors advertise in the V-Boost, Walker does not. Several of the V-Max vendors support the VMOA club funtions, Walker does not. Of course he's decent and responsive - he wants to sell you something. He won't get any of my money. Scott VMOA #500 2000 VMAX wrote: ok fellas im scared. i see a lot of negative comments here for dale walker. im looking at his new exhaust with proposed numbers and am thinking it looks pretty good. granted, i am new to this list but ive done a lot of archive reading and feel like im kind of up to date. is ufo really better and is dale the scoundrel he is being portrayed to be? seems decent and responsive in recent e mails with him directly. comments? _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Drive chain... which one?
Hal I use the PCW chain drive setup. My engine is ~175-85 HP at the rear wheel when corrected. However I am at 6000ft and it is more like 140-150HP. I think the chain that I got is the one with the oring. people say that if you don't get the one with the oring then it will stretch alot. I have about 25 passes. So far I have had to adjust the chain once. So it seems to be holding out. Incidently it is a 530 ORING type by RK... Take care Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A question for the guys who have chain-drive conversions: What type/brand chain do you use? Why? I've heard that there is a vast difference between mfrs. Once the conversion is done, how often do you find yourself swapping chains? What extra maintenance does it require? How much of a hassle is it to swap out sprockect . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Hey TC's Back
So I tried your recommended upping of the RPM's for my shifting to 9900 Rpm on the msd shift light. It was to no avail. You never sent me the excel spreadsheet for drag racing... Reminds me of that joke " you know how to keep a moron in supense ?I'll tell you tomorrow" Anyway, I'll be honest, I don't trust the clutch. I think that it is slipping and it needs a redesign. I am going to approach the "191 HP " from a bad clutch perspective. But I think that you are right about the 9900RPM just won't prove out until the other things are taken care of. Congratulations on the VBOOST it looked good. Cept I'm in ARVADA ;-) I am wondering if anyone can hook me up with a lockup clutch ? PCW wants 700 for theirs. That is with the extended case. Too much deniro I'm thinking. I saw that Gary V's has a glass plate on his. I am assuming that he doesn't have it working correctly because he had mentioned that he was redesigning his. Gary if your out there what is the scoop on your clutch ? If you already have one why are you working on a new one. well wanted to ramble but make no mistake, I wanted to say hi to TC cuz he is always there for us. Take care Colo Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Chain Drive Conversion
Hey Darren Well, I think your not getting a response to this because it is a little ambiguous. In theory, you pick up about 10HP with a chain drive conversion. The real advantage is probably more with the 45 lbs you lose going to chain and removing the pipes.. As far as the difference between Mad Max and PCW, I couldn't tell you. I have the PCW conversion and it works great. You want to drag a vmax then the chain is the way to go. Take care Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone tell me how much, Horsepower to the ground, a chain drive gives on the average? Also, What's the difference between Mad Max's kit and, PCW's kit? . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Chain Drive Conversion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Phil, how long have you had your chain drive? Do you have PCW's e-mail address? Thanks again, Darren . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . Mine has been chain driven about 4 years now. PCW is at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Tell em Phil sent ya :) take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
WOW have you seen Kosy's swingarm ?
For a shaft driven bike that is the coolest looking swingarm Nice job on your bike Kosy!! check it out at . http://208.167.189.55/Data/max_mod.htm . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
[Fwd: Worlds Fastest VMAX]
Just another update to Steve's Vmax. You should be so lucky to watch his runs. His burnouts are so cool . Hi, This is Steve's sister (and Compucon Services, another sponsor) and I just thought I would update you on Steve's latest run Saturday, October 14th. He ran a 7.746 at 173+ mph. As to his website, it is temporarily down but I will add you to the contact list and let you know when we get another site posted for him... Margo Stenzel Compucon Services
LOCKUP ClUTCH
Howdy Well Drag Racing for me is done now (winter). Bike posted final bests in each of the following areas 1.72 0-60ft 6.998 1/8thmile et 105.70MPH 1/8th mile trap 10.81 ET 129.50 MPH Trap Keep in mind 6000FT altitude. These were all personal bests at bandimere. I am extremely happy with the year all in all. When my bike was running 129MPH i was new to the motor and when I was running 1.7 0- 60ft my bike wasn't pulling above 123MPH. I am suspecting the clutch. I have on my list of things to do besides some more chroming, Lockup Clutch, Electrex regulator/Stator and the bigger battery, Mickey Thompson Rear tire. Can anyone start pointing me in the right direction for a lockup clutch ? I don't even know who to order one from for the vmax.. Thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: ENGINE PAINT
I will second this .. I took Henry's advice at the start of the summer and got me some of that DUPLI color paint. IT WORKS and its cheap... Thanks HENRY !! Your all Right with ME !! Take care Phil Henry Jackson wrote: - Original Message - I need to repaint my engine. Is there a good product for this? Bradford I used Dupli-Color Engine Enamel in Glossy Black on mine. Got it at Wal-Mart in the automotive section. No surface prep at all. Just masked it off and sprayed it. Still looking like new after a year and a half! Henry . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Shift light
Hey Kraig Yeah, I did a few things to my bike :) It has been bored and stroked and heads ported/polished, cams replaced, Chain drive conversion. 1500 long rod motor, and 41mm downdraft carbs. I think that i am going to start shifting at 9900 from here on out based on the dyno curve. Which you can see at Terry Haydens web site. But it has 191.5 RWHP and 115 ft/lbs of torque. so yeah, I've done a few mods Take care Phil P.S. Your bike is cool with the tanks but don't you worry about going down on it with the tanks full and like exploding or something ? You are a freekin mad man. The tack redlines at 9500 RPM's. Have you done any mods to the lower end to be constantly hitting these high PRM's? . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: (no subject)
Rick I ran my bike in 20 degree weather and didn't have any problems... Now that I have a few more dollars in my motor I am going to winterize it but normally I wouldn't worry about it unless it consistently goes below zero... P.S. I'm in Denver take care Phil . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Shift light
H,,, Perhaps a little Devils Advocate here. I installed my MSD shift light and I paid 75 for it. and 25 for the rpm modules. The thing works good but it needs a custom bracket. My friend happens to be a machinist so he made me a nice one out of aluminum. My bike does not see the kind of miles that yours does Kraig, so perhaps this is apples and oranges. anyway the MSD shift light works great for 100$ and I set mine at 9700 RPM right now. Perhaps will go to 9900. I have heard you don't want to get them wet But I think Tyler was telling me that you can water proof them with some silicon or something and take care of that. i'm not too worried about it cuz I haven't been riding my bike in the rain. Take care Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some one asked me where I got my shift light. Right now I have a MSD = $175. I do not recomend this light to anyone. They require a "pill" to set the RPM. These are @ $38 for a pack of five that are 100 RPM incriments. This light is not made for bikes. A good rain shower and she will light and stay on untill it dryes out - a real pain in the A$$ in the night!!! I agree with the Chromie(Mario) the best light is at: http://harlan.sketchy.net/page/shiftlight.html He IS a good guy(not Mario, Harlan). You drop him e:mail and he will respond the next day, if not the same day. @ $38, and can be set for just about any RPM. MAKE SURE YOU TELL HIM THE WATER PROOF MODEL WITH A MOUNTING BRACKET AND 2' LEAD (he makes them himself) It is just a little more and makes mounting a snap. The water proofing is "splash proof". I have not had it out in the rain yet, but it looks pretty tight. I bought two. One in yellow and one in red. I have the yellow set at 5,000RPM's(80MPH). The highways I drive on have a 75MPH speed limit. With the hours of drooning I do, I will take a glance down at the speedo, only to findout I am doing 110MPH. Not that I am against speed mind you, just if I am speeding I want to know about it. The red is at 9,000 RPM's for knocking off those "plastic bikes". Good Luck Kraig VMOA 1328 The "P-51" Long Range Max . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Worlds Fastest VMAX
Ok, I went to the track tonite and ran good. Posted 10.8's and .9's but not best times cuz my bike is only running 123MPH. My 0-60Ft times got me in the 1.78 (twice) a 1.79 and a 1.80... Personal bests there. But I was lucky tonite to witness The WORLDS FASTEST VMAX. Steve Burnett showed up and ran incredible. He bettered his times from Lebanon Valley. Ran a 7.89 @ 168 MPH... Personal bests for him. Great guy and one heck of a rider. His turbo max really is set up nice. He also has fuel injection. I'm tired so going to bed but I wanted to let you all know what the vmax can do :) Take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: K N bar
How you doing.. You sounded in pain ... And what is your name Your a cyber max owner at this point... Take care Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the bar is a k@n super bar part # 90-0040 European bar- chrome 29.5"-2"riseawesome bar IM going to need another one. crashed bike yesterday . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: K N bar
Hey Rick So how are you doing today ? What was the final verdict on your health ? Really, This is a tech list but when someone goes down I think the priorities change a bit. Hope you not it too much pain. Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rick vmoa#1369 . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Electrex...
I sent them an email last week and they replied a day or two later Phil Mike Oberle wrote: I have heard (until now)good things about Electrex. However, I have sent two requests for product info and pricing and so far have been ignored. Has anyone else found them to be unresponsive ? Mike Oberle /1990 Shiny-Black MonkeyMax VMOA #1355 / AIM - "Injuhneer" . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Clutch boss ring
Gary, I can wait. Your right John had put a heavy duty spring in the clutch and he told me the CBRing wasn't needed. I wasn't sure why.The double d mod, isn't that just adding an additional spring ? The barnett clutch is a good clutch. I used to use it at the strip for approx 80 passes with no problems. Of course that was with a stock motor. I am interested in the lock up clutch. And i probably don't understand it but I am assuming that it essentially doesn't slip. Take care Phil Phil I've been testing a lockup clutch assembly and hope to have a good setup by Jan./Feb. If you can wait I think we can get those 60 footers down in 1.4 range. Stock fibers are better than Barnett at the dragstrip. Am I correct in assuming that PCW removed that clutch boss ring when they did the 1500 motor and installed the Double D clutch spring setup? The Double D is a stiff clutch and is very difficult to launch a bike with, as I'm sure you know. The double D spring will not slip! good for a street bike, bad for a dragbike. There isn't a good reason to reinstall the clutch boss ring. If your clutch is slipping it will show on the steel plates as blue/yellow discoloring usually toward the bottom of the stick up of clutch plates. Do you know how a lock up works? . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Turbo Reply etc etc
Where is this dyno sheet at ? Your dyno sheet looks good . Typical turbo motor . A excellent . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: V-Max V1 #930
Er,, I think that is Kelly Cash in California Take care Phil Wayne pettipas wrote: Paul: I notice in the images; "Kelly's gauges", Kelly who?? I'm interested in his gauge set up, where did he get the tach and how did he set it up? Wayne H Pettipas Tel 613-596-9473 Fax 613-596-9969 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] VMOA--#1266 . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Clutch boss ring
Gary when you start using terms like damper ring and clutch pack, clutch basket, My eyes start to glaze over and you lose me. I know of the fibres, the plates (metals) and the clutch ring. It is a skinny thing that needs needle nose pliers to be removed and it goes around the clutch at some point. Its kind of like a long wire. I looked it up on HLSM and it is called a clutch boss ring. anyway with my 1500 Long Rod motor, I am seriously wondering how long a clutch will last in this motor. I am using the barnett fibres. Stock metals. Dual springs. Take care Phil Gary Voisine wrote: Phil Are you asking about the talking about the damper ring at the bottom of the clutch pack? If so I believe its there to control clutch chatter. I'm not sure exactly how it works but its usually tossed in favor of a full plate. Are you running a billet clutch basket? Gary VMOA 614 . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Clutch boss ring
Hey what is the Clutch boss ring for. I don't have one in my clutch and I am wondering if it makes a difference on wear and tear on a clutch. Thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Yayyyyyy
weather permitting . I expect my "bestest" times ever I am getting the hang of launching the thing. Tire is getting replaced first time out to track next year. Can you say Mickey Thompson ? Come out if you can make it Take care Phil "Sat Tara S. Khalsa" wrote: Hey Phil, Congrats! Are you running next week? best, Sat Tara . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Yayyyyyy
Hal Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner.. My launches are in the low 1.8's so my et's are naturally better. My MPH has been slipping due to a slipping clutch. My MPH went up to 128.7 so it is close to what it should be. If i can run 130MPh and I get a decent launch a 10.4-.5 is going to happen real soon. I am just getting the hang of things and winter is setting in. I hope to run my best tomorrow or Saturday. what is the T/M conversion ? I am not understanding the acronym.. Take care Phil Hal wrote: Congrats Phil! Feeling better about that T/M conversion now? I've been off-line for a few days. What brought your times up? Hal -Original Message- From: Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 5:07 PM To: V-MAX TECH LIST Subject: Yayy I finally had a good day at the track.I am back to where i was running when I first got the bike. 10.81 @ 128.6 personal best in E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.80 0-60ft time personal best. 11.1@124 (wheelie off the line tends to slow me down :)) My clutch was bad and I didn't know it cuz its so subtle on a max when they start going out. I now need to tune and probably find out more about lock up clutches...I am thinking that my clutch is already slipping. Don't know for sure yet but I will soon enough...Can anyone recommend a CLUTCH for my 1500 ? Take care Colo Phil P.S. For those of you that are going so what is so great about these times. I have a normally aspirated vmax and I am at 6000 FT. These times translate to Hi - Nines at sea level. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Battery
Someone mentioned a sealed battery awhiles back and I am thinking that is a good idea. Something about customizing the case to make it fit better.. What was that battery and what is the mod. I think it was a 300 cca battery. What is normal ? Thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Yayyyyyy
I finally had a good day at the track.I am back to where i was running when I first got the bike. 10.81 @ 128.6 personal best in E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.80 0-60ft time personal best. 11.1@124 (wheelie off the line tends to slow me down :)) My clutch was bad and I didn't know it cuz its so subtle on a max when they start going out. I now need to tune and probably find out more about lock up clutches...I am thinking that my clutch is already slipping. Don't know for sure yet but I will soon enough...Can anyone recommend a CLUTCH for my 1500 ? Take care Colo Phil P.S. For those of you that are going so what is so great about these times. I have a normally aspirated vmax and I am at 6000 FT. These times translate to Hi - Nines at sea level. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: i was yelling
I DON'T HAVE A THROTTLE CABLE FOR YOU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was yelling! noone answered the first time i sendt it accept for KOSY thank you KOSY you guys spend more time with banter than helping out . this is a tech list remember that and quit talking about my caps and answeer the ? please zed is dead anyone have any pilot jets i need 2 thank you for your attn .. From: "Johan.Kjellberg" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HEY I NEED A THROTTLE CABLE AND NOONES ANSWERING !!!LOL Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ohhh...so u found the caps lock CAPITALS means than you screeming to all of us... we don't like that turn of your caps and behave :)) . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Dave Galusha /drag slick
Hey Dave What do you mean the ignition timing is a problem for the max ? Phil Dave Galusha wrote: Hi Gary, More like a Pro Mod bike. You're right, though, ignition timing is a problem on the Max. I removed the water pump (will use electric) and extended the crankshaft out through the case. I put 2 Dyna rotors on the shaft and 2 sets of pickups going to 2 Dyna 2000 ignition boxes. Haven't fired it yet, but it looks like it should work pretty well. Will have pictures of the setup on my site soon. Dave . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Ran a 12.48 last night
At 108 MPH Course it would have helped if I remembered to hook up my fourth plug wire OOPS :) Take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
clutch
Where do yall recommend purchasing a barnett and stock metals from ? Who is the cheapest ? I am shotgunning clutch to find out where 5+ MPH went. Thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: drag slick
Well, I am not running the MT yet. Pat is running the 1st one and his holeshots are consistently better than mine. I am changing rim/tire combo soon but expect to see results next year. Yea, I spent ~10k on motor. Sometimes I feel like such a dumbass for taking this on. My friends hayabusa is equally fast as me.Course its not a Vmax :) Wouldn't be so bad but PCW /John Gainey is just a total headtrip for support. I won't even call anymore unless I absolutely have to. The bike is really strong. Runs 130mph now and before it ran 114MPH. So i got 16mph in the 1/4. With Nitrous I got about 10 MPH... So PCW does build good motors. Got about 20 passes on the bike this year. Best was a 10.88 /129.50, had nothing but issues since then. There is a guy here with wheelie/slick nitrous. Runs 10.6's. Seems real happy with the combo. Take care Phil "Sat Tara S. Khalsa" wrote: Hey Guys, I think either Phil or Pat Nats were running MT slicks. If you guys are lurking you could give the list a review But, as the Old Man has pointed out, if you add a wheelie bar and slick the "weakest link" moves up the driveline. Both Pat and Phil have chain drive and PCW motors. Phil has documented how much he spent on his bike - basically the cost of a new one. If you want to play with a max at the track it can get expensive... On the other hand, you might ask Phil or Pat if they'd be willing to sell their bikes and save yourself some aggravation... best, Sat Tara . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Intakes
TC is offline right now... You could send him an email at tcampyadayadayada... look it up on vmoa website under arizona... Phil "Mario C. Aguiar" wrote: Hi Guys, Some guy at work told me he tried the Mikuni carb intakes designed for snowmobiles on his Suzuki (stage 3 Dynojet) with great results, (these intakes are nothing more than polished aluminum velocity stacks with a fine mesh screen) But remember here, we're talking about one of the "anal retentive" guys at work, so... Anybody out there tried these intakes?? And speaking of "anal retentive"..Anybody knows what's with TC ?? I would like to know what's his scoop on this.. Mario . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: The vmax isn't dead!
Actually, If the Driver is really good it would be all Crotch Rocket...I watched a guy on a hayabusa last wednesday run 10.57 with a 1.71 0-60 ft. Couldnt believe my eyes. Oh well maybe someday I'll be good enough to beat him with my 190HP vmax... Take care and keep scaring em Ross :) Phil Ross Lowery wrote: he(zx9r) said he ran a 10.80 @ 132 . And he did have the power to motor around me in 4th. I'm just saying a stock vmax can and will laungh hard and hold its own ! A 1000 ft race would be all vmax.! . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Hello
Hey Kosy,,, I just finished perusing your web site vmax ... That looks real cool very nice. take care Phil Kosy Amirales wrote: No, we just know everythinghehe. Thanks Kosy VMOA #1319 http://208.167.189.55/Data/max_mod.htm -Original Message- From: Mario C. Aguiar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2000 12:49 PM To: V-MAX TECH LIST Subject:Hello Nobody home??? Mario . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: shiftlight
Tyler I don't know if you get this during the day but I am sending you this message from work. I am wondering why the shift instructions say to cut two loops for a 4 cylinder but you have told me to cut all three... I have no doubt that your correct but I am still wondering why Thanks Phil P.S. Coldest day of the year in colorado today. I OF COURSE took a 1/2 day and am OF COURSE the most prepared to race that I have been all year and OF COURSE it is rainy and I probably won't be able to race...SIGH :) Tyler Pennock wrote: Tap to any one coil that's easy to get at. yes switched means with the key on, bring the RED and GREEN wire to the coil of your choice. 1 - unplug the 2 wire connector of that coil. 2 - use a meter or a light, ground one lead(BLACK LEAD) of light/meter to frame, 3 - at the connector you unplug at the coil, use the one that goes to the harness 4 - there are 2 wires in that connector, using the meter/light find the one that has power when the key is on only(this is where the RED from MSD hooks up 5 - the other wire should have no power where key is on or not,this is the wire you hook the MSD GREEN to. Tyler Pennock, # 380 V max Owners Association Eastern-Canada Director 1987 V max 1260 Ottawa,ON,Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Msd question
Hi Kraig Last night I went ahead and set up according to the way Tyler had instructed me. He basically told me to connect to any ignition coil green to one side red to red/white wire and black to ground. He is also having me cut all three loops which confused me cuz intructions say to cut 2 loops for four cylinders. Thanks for assisting me.. Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Msd question
I got the shift light installed and don't know where to hook up the wires. There are three wires coming off the shift light and can anyone tell me where they go ? Thanks Phil P.S. Racing on Wednesday if you want to show up :) . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Charging Volts
Hey All I am trying to fix my charging problem on my max. I run my bike and when it gets plenty warm it doesn't want to start. After a while if just wont start until it cools off again. I measured my voltage of my battery while it is connected to the bike and it is exactly 12 volts. When I start my bike it is around 12.6v at idle when I rev the motor to around 2500 rpm or higher its going to 13 volts.. IS this a sign that the charging system is giving me enough current ? Or should the volts go higher... let me know what you think. The battery will charge to 13.8 volts if i put it on a trickle charger for a day. Also the battery is new. Thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Charging Volts
Thanks for the Reply Chris!! I have an 85 with a digital harness on it for the 1500 Long Rod requirements. I am trying to find out how much the voltage should change when the bike is running. My 3prong connector is clean tho. I could add spice to this problem by telling you that when I hit the kill switch on my bike it doesn't shut off right away. It takes anywhere between 1 and 5 seconds before it kills the motor. Think this is related? take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: V-Max V1 #864
"Steve Morris, SMS" wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The good thing about PCW is that what they say the RWHP is going to be is
always understated.
I think Phil might disagree with you there...
Well Not exactly, My vmax Dynoed at PCW reported 191.5 and here in colo
171 HP. However, I have a friend who dynoed at 169.5 here and his bike
is clearly a 1/2 second slower and about 5MPH slower. Additionally, PCW
told my friend that he has 170 HP so what the hell happened, I'm not
sure but I am not trusting the Dyno here yet. The only thing that PCW
doesn't tell you is that the bike was dynoed with the chassis pipe and
not your actual exhaust. I heard there is about 7-10 HP in that little
bit of fudging
Anyway, my Vmax as it sits will smoke my old stocker with Nitrous. I
mean it is just a bad bad ornery machine...
.
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Re: v-gas?
is the PCW Tourmaster which gives you about 140RWHP. V-Gas = @$1,200 Tourmaster = @$4,000 uhh,,, I thought the tourmaster was worth about 160RWHP. BIG difference over 140... My $.02 Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Polished scoops Pics
looks great Drew !! I like the Daughter on the max. I have one of mine when she was like 1 yr old. I was hiding behind her and holding her but you can't see me at all... I have that pic in storage... Take care Phil Drew #1058 wrote: Scanned some pics of the polished scoops. Take a peek at: http://homestead.juno.com/drew793/MaxPics.html Drew #1058 Moonachie, NJ . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: time
He did But that was god on a max not some editor. The vmax is rated at 10.5-.9 in the 1/4mile. But it really takes an awesome rider. PeeWee ran a 10.27 and a 10.33 on a "stock" vmax. However it was a blueprinted motor. Which is kind of cheating. Phil "Larry Langley (langleyl)" wrote: i thought peewee gleson did a 10sec. run on a stock 85 vmax for some mag. years ago oh well. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: V-Max V1 #811
easier to find N, and still NO slipping, good deal for Price. Hey What happened to Scott, meaning why? According to John, he caused alot of the customer service problems that John's shop was experiencing. Personally, I think you can only work with John for so long.. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: time
On a weekend trip to Sacramento, 11.21 @121.50 MPH 1.63 0-60ft for me...That was in 92' My 1500 long rod still hasn't run quicker out of the hole :( But I am retraining myself. Phil dinah wrote: steve hall: I hold the fastest time on a stock max , or at least thats what paul at mad max said on aug 5th at lebanon valley drag strip. I won stock class at 11.96 at 112 mph. I wieght 215 lbs so it should not be hard to beat. the main thing was I had a good time that weekend. bob wilson #1324ont. can. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: time
steven detamore wrote: cool, 7.5 mph and .13 seconds for $4,000+ steve Are you being Facetious ? 7.5MPH is alot for 1/8th mile Take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: time
steven detamore wrote: Phil, no disrespect intended! my thing is road racing on surface backroads and secondary highways. my wallet just doesn't allow mods that cost $575. per mile an hour. keep at it, will love to hear about you consistantly roasting the Busa's. steve Non taken, However a 7MPH gain at 1/8th mile is about 20MPH at 1/4mile. So perhaps the cost is not so significant ??? what do you think Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
MSD Bracket
Didn't someone do a diagram for a bracket for the MSD Shift Light. I know there are some instructions somewhere and I think there is a diagram Help :) take care phil RACING ON WEDNESDAY My bike seems to be running good. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
[Fwd: 110 octane gas]
TC, Did you ever get this reply ?? Phil 10.5K ... So ... I guess you have been shifting at 10.5 ?? Actually around 9500 RPM. Anyhow ... I think you are pulling my leg sometimes. I assume you are "stable" by now on your runs .. NOT TRUE. I would never kid you buddy. Actually I have only been to the track 3 times with my max. The first time i was learning the second time I ran a 10.88/10.9 and it ran at 129.5 the last time I ran it ran terrible (sticking carbs)125MPH at pueblo I was coming out of the hole and reaching for the sky the bike kept coming up on me and now it makes sense because the carbs were sticking) AND I suppose you have them all in a laptop on a spreadsheet by segment, 60,330,660 etc ... with weight, weather and tuning configuration for each run (OUCH This one hurt I havent actually put the time slips on a spread sheet Do you have a spread sheet that is already set up I keep my timeslips and all the information is there) ... Soo .. that you can fine tune to your best segment combination right ??!? Thanks for the REPLY TC, I am doing the test real soon. My carbs are on their way back from PCW. phil
Check it out :)
http://pub12.ezboard.com/fmartinsazmotorcycleboardssuzukihayabusa.showMessage?topicID=251.topic . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Check it out :)
If my carbs have come in then I will be up. If not then no. I can let you know tomorrow for sure. That link works but you need to grab all of it. I just checked it ... Phil Hope to see you there. "Sat Tara S. Khalsa" wrote: on 8/15/00 11:40 AM, Phil at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pub12.ezboard.com/fmartinsazmotorcycleboardssuzukihayabusa.showMessage?topicID=251.topic It doesn't seem to be there now. You running tomorrow? best, Sat Tara . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: MSD SHIFT LIGHT VENDOR
I haven't the slightest idea what is safe for your Long Rod .. I would have assumed that PCW would have had some comments ... However ... take a look at the dyno they did ... and try to pick a shift point that will utilize the majority of your top end hp peak, (both sides of the hump .. it does little good to shift at peak hp .. ). I think it is on Terry's site I will look . Where have you "been" shifting campbell I have been shifting around 9500 plus or minus an rpm or two. Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: 110 octane gas
Hey Steve
Thanks for the post here. I liked the "yea, that sounded good" comment
:)... I was told that the bike would run on 91 octane just fine. I
haven't really noticed any ticking sounds but I am concerned that I am
under on my octane. I think my compression ratio has dropped by about
10% so I am really around 12.5 maybe to 1 ... that is due to this
elevation.
Take care Phil
steven detamore wrote:
Phil,
i'm fairly certain that J.G. had TOP grade fuel in mind when he
put that motor together AND when he ran it in at PCW.
at 13.5 you may want to check the plugs for metal transfer (from
piston tops) and LISTEN REAL CLOSE to see if you hear any light TICKING ( as
in borderline detonation).
call PCW and ask, yea that sounds good.
steve #1131
From: Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: 110 octane gas
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:41:57 -0600
There
is no since in throwing your stick of dynamite 3 seconds after the
train went by ...
regards,
Unless your into loud noises and blowing stuff up
So based on Y'alls discussion, do you think my Long Rod 1500 13.5 - 1
should run with higher than 91 octane ?
talk to me :)
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Re: 110 octane gas
10.5K ... So ... I guess you have been shifting at 10.5 ?? Actually around 9500 RPM. Anyhow ... I think you are pulling my leg sometimes. I assume you are "stable" by now on your runs .. NOT TRUE. I would never kid you buddy. Actually I have only been to the track 3 times with my max. The first time i was learning the second time I ran a 10.88/10.9 and it ran at 129.5 the last time I ran it ran terrible (sticking carbs)125MPH at pueblo I was coming out of the hole and reaching for the sky the bike kept coming up on me and now it makes sense because the carbs were sticking) AND I suppose you have them all in a laptop on a spreadsheet by segment, 60,330,660 etc ... with weight, weather and tuning configuration for each run (OUCH This one hurt I havent actually put the time slips on a spread sheet Do you have a spread sheet that is already set up I keep my timeslips and all the information is there) ... Soo .. that you can fine tune to your best segment combination right ??!? Thanks for the REPLY TC, I am doing the test real soon. My carbs are on their way back from PCW. phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
MSD SHIFT LIGHT VENDOR
So I am searching for the vendor of the MSD shift light and I think it was summitt racing. Where can I get this shift light from ? Thanks What is the recommended RPM for a 1500 Long Rod uh DON,TC,Paul :) thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: 110 octane gas
There is no since in throwing your stick of dynamite 3 seconds after the train went by ... regards, Unless your into loud noises and blowing stuff up So based on Y'alls discussion, do you think my Long Rod 1500 13.5 - 1 should run with higher than 91 octane ? talk to me :) . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Backrest for sale
Just to let you know I have a backrest for sale. Let me know what is fair it is older but hardly used. My woman most emphatically doesn't want to ride on my max :-) And that was the only reason I had one. I'm thinking $160 +shipping. Take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: CVAS
Yo Mario How did you do those handlebar mirrors ? They look COOL How much etc take care Phil "Mario C. Aguiar" wrote: Hi guys, I would like to let everyone know, the V-Max Club of South America is up and going stronger than ever, with many members and some gorgeous V-Maxii. This organization based in Brazil, was created by Mr. Aluisio Peixoto, who is a member of both of our Lists. I invite you to check their site, (use the English version) and help me congratulate their members for all the help and efforts on a job well done. http://www.cma-systems.com/v-max regards Mario Aguiar . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm . . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Lebanon V.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There were two turbo Max's one went 9.50 and the other an all out race bike went 7.94! I counted over fifty V-max's and I only saw 7 of them race and that's including me. I don't get it, that many modified Max's and all they did was sit there, what a waste if you ask me! I only had two runs before I had to go 12.5 (big wheelie) and 11.9. Kurt That is because the vmax is frigging slow by todays standards. I told this list that to compare a vmax against a Hayabusa is totally ludicrous. Guys like Don, and Andre they know what i say is true. It annoys me that the vmax is so far behind at the track. I came out of the 85' mentality when the vmax was KING period. IT was number one that year and a "DRAG KING" Now a 600 will beat a max if you are new to your vmax. That new Suzuki will beat a max at ANYPOINT in the 1/4 mile with the holeshot being close but the darn thing launches so nice that it STILL beats the vmax. Someone posted that they can beat a Hayabusa with a stock vmax from stoplight to stoplight. Well maybe they can but not with a decent driver on a busa. I mean to run low 11's on a vmax at sea level you have to be good. It's nothing for an rookie busa driver to run low elevens. A busa will embarass a vmax at the track. I had probably 250 passes on a stock vmax before I was running consistent low elevens. Takes alot of practice to figure out the clutch and the shaft drive out of the hole. Your 11.9 was the start of your journey into the 11's. You need six or 8 passes in race day to get used to the conditions of your bike and the track. ON another note, I too was disappointed when I came to Lebanon and watched a bunch of vmax owners show up and only 1 or 2 ran (stock) and a couple of modifieds showed up 2 turbos and 2 long Rods. It never ceases to amaze me that people actually own the vmax just because it looks cool. Kind of like the guy who owns the corvette but never speeds. The thing is, drag racing is a major adrenaline rush. You can start out running slow and just practice untill your ready for serious holeshots. It is so much fun to drag. I am heading up to the track Wednesday to race my friends 1428 long Rod while he runs his Hayabusa. I am going to learn how to launch a flatside vmax if it kills me ;-) Talk about a different bike it is bad enough that this vmax has 170 HP but these mechanical carbs are a bitch to race with. You can't just twist the grip and go. You have to roll the throttle which is so hard to do when you've been twisting(fast) for so long. I am going to concentrate on my 0-60ft times and just keep launching ... Well I've rambled enough Take care COLO Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Lebanon V.
the best times i could get were high 11's , but then again im no drag racer as you could tell with .8 reaction times (no i wasn't reading the owners manual at the line), even still it is always a blast to run the strip, i love it, i dont understand why so few bikes ran, maybe there intimidated, or think thell embarrass themselves or dont want to break something and be stranded at the track, whatever the reason they missed out on a lot of fun, and don after you get your turbo bandit and want to go busa hunting give me a call, i still have a couple of turbos laying around and one might find its way on a busa, oh boy :) vinny giglio vmoa1009 freehold nj BTW Vinny, your reaction time has nothing to do with your time. The clock doesn't start running until you actually start moving. It is your 0-60 ft time that tells how well you launched your max. At the other end of the track is your MPH and that tells you a relative number on how much HP your max is making that day. Take Care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Flatslides and dragracing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phil, You sure have the flatslide issue right. It takes a while to get used to rolling on the throttle. And as far as I can tell a racing from a roll hopeless. I bog mine evertime I try to roll on agains someone. I am getting better from a drag race point of view but it is really hard to break 30 years of wacking the throttle. Have you tried to experiment with different accelerator pump settings? I think that would be a big help. I may delve into that relm soon. These guys that race in a circle have to be able to get on and off the gas quick coming out of corners so maybe we could learn something from them. Any suggestions. Scott, Well, The only suggestion i have is more of a thought. I am wondering what the UFO carbs are like and if they are vacuum advance or are they another type of mechanical carbs. I am actually embarrassed by my vmax times so far. My bike is not making 191 HP right now but it is making 172HP and that should be enough to run consistent l0.5's at this altitude. My 0-60Ft times are worse than what I was doing on a stock vmax that just bites. So I am challenging myself to and trying to retrain my grip. BTW if your bike is bogging then I bet your running a little too rich or lean. Cuz those carbs will not bog if you get them dialed in properly. Take care and practice,practice,practice :) Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Lebanon V.
Maybe those people enjoy the V-Max on a different level than yours, sometimes it is better to have a nice "spirited" ride with a powerful bike, than to drag race, blow it up, and sit looking at the pieces for the rest of the summer.. You think ? What ever rocks your boat eh ? Incidently, I had over 300 passes on my max and still hadn't rebuilt the motor, kind of a tribute to the toughness of the vmax. It never ceases to amaze me that people actually own the vmax just because it looks cool. Kind of like the guy who owns the corvette but never speeds. That's NOT true, I have many friends who ride the wheels off their Maxii, and never drag race them, (BTW, I'm one of them) Look, I'm happy for you but I stand by what I said and what i said didn't specify YOUunless your saying you own you max just to look cool. The thing is, drag racing is a major adrenaline rush. So is "Russian Roulette" wanna give it a try WOW, GOOD ANALOGY. That will get alot of people off their cushy vmax seats and out to the track. (yea,right) You can start out running slow and just practice untill your ready for serious holeshots. It is so much fun to drag. Maybe it is fun for you!!! but don't put down those who choose not to do so... Mario, I'm happy for you and the world you live in but don't tell me that I am putting people down. Which, I am not. I am merely stating that I don't understand that particular mentality. As this is totally OFF-TOPIC I won't be responding from here but I wanted the list to understand my counterpoints to your response. . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Lebanon V.
I was wondering what happened at Lebanon Valley. How did everyone do ? What were some vmax times. Sort of technical.. take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Fwd: shift light
Hey Phil IM trying to hook up a shift light on my Max with no luck! The directions tell me what to do and nothing works. Do you have one on your bike or know how to get it to work? Kurt 2000 VEE~MAX VMOA #1159 Actually I haven't hooked one up yet. I am still trying to keep my god darn vmax on the frigging ground :) SO torquey off the line. Try the tech list for specifics, matter of fact I will forward to list take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: swing arm mods.
kevin mannens wrote: Paul, can you please unsubscribe me from the list? when I go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm, I get a 404... I bought a bandit in stead of a V max, since all you guys told me a max is not suited as a first bike. cheers, k|m DOH . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: cycle lift
Can someone show the lift via a picture somewhere ? Thanks Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Performance
Frederick Wilson wrote: I have read many reports on the performance of the Max, including the incredible 10.30 run by a factory rider. This raises several questions: Was that run for real, i.e. can a stock Max run that fast? Has anyone been able to duplicate this performance on a stock, privately owned bike? Are the 85's actually faster than the later models? Jay Gleason is the rider who ran that bike and that was a blue printed motorcycle. Which means it was essentially running perfect. Jay Gleason weighs like 130 pounds Nickname peewee and was probably one of the best drag racers of all time and unlike Dale Walker , Jay actually likes the vmax and appreciates. Dale doesn't like the max he is a suzuki fan. But is a pretty good dragger and he ran 10.5's on one. Actually 10.8's are quite possible out of a max but if you meet someone who has run that then you will know that they are awesome draggers. Typically a really, really good stock vmax time is 11.0- 11.1. take care PHil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: trap speed
dinah wrote: does anybody know what trap speed a stock v max will do at lebannon drag strip this sat. curious to know, an what et. they usually turn. I plan to be there with mine. thanks Bob Wilson Bob At Lebanon Valley I observed a best of 11.1 at around 122-3MPH.. IF you are a novice then you will be lucky to break an 11.5 but your traps should be pretty close to that MPH. take care Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
Re: Shoei DuoTec helmet experience
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally caught up with the list after vacation and this question is still "alive" so... I used to ride with a Shoei DuoTec helmet and LOVED it. Used to smoke and it was great for cigarette breaks without removing the helmet. BTW, you CAN'T ride over about 40 mph with the helmet open or it will rip your head off. Anyway... Crashed my Vmax in Montana in '98. My brother was following in a car. When he found me laying in the ditch my DuoTec helmet chin bar had come open. It was pulled all the way over the top of the helmet to the back of my neck. He took a picture of my wrecked bike after the police had set my helmet on the (vertical) footpeg so I have proof if anybody needs it. I don't remember a thing between my view of an 8"-travel tank slapper and the flight for life helicopter. I DID love that helmet and I didn't suffer any head/neck injuries, but I'll never own another one. (Now I own three Vmax's--one totally rebuilt--and I'll always do my own maintenance. That bike was in the shop two week's before I left for "maintenance" in preparation for the ride.) What exactly is your question ? Phil . To unsubscribe go to http://www.sayegh.org/unsubscribe.htm .
