Re: [vdr] Safer diseqc setup ? Like in kaffeine ?
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 07:08:26PM +0100, Reinhard Nissl wrote: Hello :-) I do not see how the ports could interfere with each other. Your switch provides 4 independent 1-of-3 switches and each of your 3 LNBs provides 4 independent 1-of-4 switches. Well, under kaffeine it's so, but with VDR not... I've had a look at the source code today. kaffeine uses a VDR diseqc.conf like this one: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T S13.0E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T S13.0E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 B W15 T S28.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F8] W15 A W15 t S28.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F9] W15 A W15 T S28.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 FA] W15 A W15 t S28.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 FB] W15 A W15 T It's one of my try, but it don't work sowell here. So I guess it's not totally what kaffeine does. I don't understand the difference betweem a diseqc and a multiswitch. I think I will go off VDR and look how to use mastetimer similar tool under it, it's way too hard to setup diseqc under vdr. Thank for all your help, unfortunately, I give up... I also had a closer look into the specification and into the implementation guide. There is only one mandatory command for DiSEqC 1.0: the above used 0x38. Well, good to know :-) -- Grégoire FAVRE http://gregoire.favre.googlepages.com http://www.gnupg.org ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Safer diseqc setup ? Like in kaffeine ?
Hi, Gregoire Favre wrote: I've had a look at the source code today. kaffeine uses a VDR diseqc.conf like this one: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T S13.0E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T S13.0E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 B W15 t S13.0E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 B W15 T S28.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F8] W15 A W15 t S28.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F9] W15 A W15 T S28.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 FA] W15 A W15 t S28.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 FB] W15 A W15 T It's one of my try, but it don't work sowell here. So I guess it's not totally what kaffeine does. I'm sorry, this IS what the code does: kaffeine-0.8.3/kaffeine/src/input/dvb/dvbstream.cpp Just have a look at these functions: DvbStream::tuneDvb() DvbStream::setupSwitch() DvbStream::diseqc() I don't understand the difference betweem a diseqc and a multiswitch. I don't think that there is any difference concerning switching. The only difference I can think of is, that DiSEqC 1.0 allows you to select a port/band among 16 while the old signalling supports only 8 ports/bands. I think I will go off VDR and look how to use mastetimer similar tool under it, it's way too hard to setup diseqc under vdr. Thank for all your help, unfortunately, I give up... Here you'll find further reading: http://www.eutelsat.com/satellites/4_5_5.html http://www.eutelsat.com/satellites/pdf/Diseqc/Reference%20docs/bus_spec.pdf http://www.eutelsat.com/satellites/pdf/Diseqc/associated%20docs/update_recomm_for_implim.pdf I also had a closer look into the specification and into the implementation guide. There is only one mandatory command for DiSEqC 1.0: the above used 0x38. Well, good to know :-) Bye. -- Dipl.-Inform. (FH) Reinhard Nissl mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Safer diseqc setup ? Like in kaffeine ?
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 11:41:18AM +0100, Reinhard Nissl wrote:
Hi,
Hello,
Well, I've tried to switch between those two channels and had no problem
on my system (two budget cards).
I have also no problem under kaffeine :-)
My setup is similar to your's (all cards connected to a single multi
switch) except that I lack the third LNB for 28.2E.
I don't know if that exactly similar :
Astra 19.2EHotbird 13.0E Astra 28.2E
quad lnb quad lnb quad lnb
4 cables 4 cables 4 cables
vnc G3 G3
diseqc
1.0
3 output
/ | \
/ | \
/ | \
/|\
dvb1 dvb2 dvb3
I think, your diseqc.conf should look like that:
# Optimized for full DiSEqC:
S19.2E 11700 V 9750 [E0 10 38 F0]
S19.2E 9 V 10600 [E0 10 38 F1]
S19.2E 11700 H 9750 [E0 10 38 F2]
S19.2E 9 H 10600 [E0 10 38 F3]
S13.0E 11700 V 9750 [E0 10 38 F4]
S13.0E 9 V 10600 [E0 10 38 F5]
S13.0E 11700 H 9750 [E0 10 38 F6]
S13.0E 9 H 10600 [E0 10 38 F7]
S28.2E 11700 V 9750 [E0 10 38 F8]
S28.2E 9 V 10600 [E0 10 38 F9]
S28.2E 11700 H 9750 [E0 10 38 FA]
S28.2E 9 H 10600 [E0 10 38 FB]
I have tried it, and it don't work at my place ???
Well, I can tune to some channels :
Vertical loband on Astra 19.2E
Vertical loband on Hotbird 13.0E,
Vertical ones on Astra 28.2E.
Thank for your answer, I would like to convert the setup from kaffeine
into vdr's diseqc.conf :
DVB0=S|Astra-19.2E|Hotbird-13.0E|Astra-28.2E
DVB0_LNB0_hi=10600
DVB0_LNB0_lo=9750
DVB0_LNB0_switch=11700
DVB0_LNB1_hi=10600
DVB0_LNB1_lo=9750
DVB0_LNB1_switch=11700
DVB0_LNB2_hi=10600
DVB0_LNB2_lo=9750
DVB0_LNB2_switch=11700
DVB0_LNB3_hi=10600
DVB0_LNB3_lo=9750
DVB0_LNB3_switch=11700
Which is the same for DVB1 and DVB2.
I would really enjoy if someone could explain me how to use the same
settings as kaffeine use :-)
Have a great day,
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Re: [vdr] Safer diseqc setup ? Like in kaffeine ?
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 02:25:25PM +0100, Reinhard Nissl wrote: Hi, Hello again, Well, concerning the cables, my setup just misses the right 4 ones for the 28.2E LNB. OK, I missunderstood, sorry. Do you really have QUAD LNBs? I have QUATTRO LNBs. Yes I do. The difference is, that a QUATTRO LNB supplies the 4 bands (Horizontal Low, Vertical Low, Horizontal High and Vertical High) on specific ports on its own, while a QUAD LNB needs voltage and tone signalling on each port to decide which band it supplies to that port. Would you mind providing some links to documentation about your LNB and switch models? Sure : http://www.radio-materiel.ch/scripts/rama/fiche.html?ref=VNE-G3%2FG4 which point then to : http://www.radio-materiel.ch/new_design/radiomateriel/download/liens/vneg3g4.pdf ( http://www.radio-materiel.ch/scripts/rama/fiche.w?ref=BISAT-G3 ) http://www.radio-materiel.ch/scripts/rama/fiche.html?ref=IDLP-401QDL Maybe it has to do with the QUAD - QUATTRO issue, but let me first have a look into your documentation. Well, it's pretty small docs... basically my quad lnb are exactly the same as four lnb would be. Hhm, these settings only help in determining high/low band and the frequency to tune to. I first need to take a look into the code how kaffeine and xine-lib pass the information about the port to use to the DVB driver. Thank you very much ! -- Grégoire FAVRE http://gregoire.favre.googlepages.com http://www.gnupg.org ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Safer diseqc setup ? Like in kaffeine ?
Hi, Gregoire Favre wrote: The difference is, that a QUATTRO LNB supplies the 4 bands (Horizontal Low, Vertical Low, Horizontal High and Vertical High) on specific ports on its own, while a QUAD LNB needs voltage and tone signalling on each port to decide which band it supplies to that port. Would you mind providing some links to documentation about your LNB and switch models? Sure : http://www.radio-materiel.ch/scripts/rama/fiche.html?ref=VNE-G3%2FG4 which point then to : http://www.radio-materiel.ch/new_design/radiomateriel/download/liens/vneg3g4.pdf ( http://www.radio-materiel.ch/scripts/rama/fiche.w?ref=BISAT-G3 ) http://www.radio-materiel.ch/scripts/rama/fiche.html?ref=IDLP-401QDL Maybe it has to do with the QUAD - QUATTRO issue, but let me first have a look into your documentation. Well, it's pretty small docs... basically my quad lnb are exactly the same as four lnb would be. I must admit, I didn't think of such a scenario. So for now, I think your diseqc.conf is correct. Your switch seems to use the DiSEqC message to select one of three LNBs while voltage and tone tell the LNB which of the 4 bands it shall pass on to the cable. To just prove my understanding: Your VDR is able to switch to all three satelites, but from time to time you get those tuning timeouts. Reloading the drivers fixes this issue and VDR can then switch to all three satellites again. Hhm, these settings only help in determining high/low band and the frequency to tune to. I first need to take a look into the code how kaffeine and xine-lib pass the information about the port to use to the DVB driver. Haven't had a look at this yet. Bye. -- Dipl.-Inform. (FH) Reinhard Nissl mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Safer diseqc setup ? Like in kaffeine ?
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 04:48:37PM +0100, Reinhard Nissl wrote: Hi, Hello :) I must admit, I didn't think of such a scenario. So for now, I think your diseqc.conf is correct. Your switch seems to use the DiSEqC message to select one of three LNBs while voltage and tone tell the LNB which of the 4 bands it shall pass on to the cable. To just prove my understanding: Your VDR is able to switch to all three satelites, but from time to time you get those tuning timeouts. Reloading the drivers fixes this issue and VDR can then switch to all three satellites again. More or less : it's slow (compared to kaffeine) and when I use vdr with only one card, I can choose the sat in vdr, but then under kaffeine with the two others cards, I can't tune to another sat than the same choosen in VDR ??? In kaffeine, I can reccord without problem on three differents sats. Hhm, these settings only help in determining high/low band and the frequency to tune to. I first need to take a look into the code how kaffeine and xine-lib pass the information about the port to use to the DVB driver. Haven't had a look at this yet. Here kaffeine output of some tuning : Tuning to: ARTE / autocount: 11 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 11567000 v 2200 inv:2 fecH:5 DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 13V, loband (index 0) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f0 00 00 Tuning to: EuroNews / autocount: 6 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 12226000 h 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 18V, hiband (index 3) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f3 00 00 Tuning to: ZDFdokukanal / autocount: 7 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 11953000 h 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 18V, hiband (index 3) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f3 00 00 Tuning to: COULEUR 3 / autocount: 8 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 12207000 v 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 13V, hiband (index 2) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f1 00 00 Tuning to: RTL Television / autocount: 9 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 12187000 h 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 18V, hiband (index 3) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f3 00 00 Tuning to: ARTE / autocount: 14 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 11567000 v 2200 inv:2 fecH:5 DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 13V, loband (index 0) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f0 00 00 Tuning to: 1LIVE / autocount: 18 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 12265000 h 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 18V, hiband (index 3) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f3 00 00 Tuning to: 3 Channel / autocount: 19 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 10971000 h 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 1, 18V, loband (index 5) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f6 00 00 Tuning to: 3sat / autocount: 20 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 11953000 h 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 18V, hiband (index 3) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f3 00 00 Tuning to: 50 Canale / autocount: 21 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 11541000 v 2200 inv:2 fecH:5 DiSEqC: switch pos 1, 13V, loband (index 4) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f4 00 00 Tuning to: 9Live / autocount: 22 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 1248 v 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 13V, hiband (index 2) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f1 00 00 Tuning to: ADIBOU TV / autocount: 23 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 12363000 v 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 13V, hiband (index 2) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f1 00 00 Tuning to: AL-ALAM / autocount: 24 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 12437000 h 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 1, 18V, hiband (index 7) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f7 00 00 Tuning to: A LA UNE / autocount: 25 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 12324000 v 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 13V, hiband (index 2) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f1 00 00 Tuning to: Al Jazeera / autocount: 26 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 11567000 v 2200 inv:2 fecH:5 DiSEqC: switch pos 0, 13V, loband (index 0) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f0 00 00 . LOCKED. Tuning to: AL JAZEERA / autocount: 27 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 12111000 v 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 1, 13V, hiband (index 6) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f5 00 00 Tuning to: ALOUETTE-1 / autocount: 29 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 10873000 v 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 1, 13V, loband (index 4) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f4 00 00 Tuning to: Asianet / autocount: 31 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 12207000 h 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 1, 18V, hiband (index 7) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f7 00 00 Tuning to: AZ TV / autocount: 32 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 12245000 h 2750 inv:2 fecH:3 DiSEqC: switch pos 1, 18V, hiband (index 7) DiSEqC: e0 10 38 f7 00 00 Tuning to: Bahn TV / autocount: 33 Using DVB device 0:0 ST STV0299 DVB-S tuning DVB-S to 12633000 h 2200 inv:2 fecH:5 DiSEqC:
