Re: Best Servlet Container

2006-10-04 Thread Philip O'Neill
We try to always use apache for static content and tomcat for 
application content.
The only issues we had are  when the static content needs to be protect 
in someway.
As for speed there is only a small hit serving the static content in 
tomcat as opposed to apache.


Phil

Steve O'Hara wrote:

Some nice anecdotal evidence/advice, thanks a lot.

I've got a follow-on question - does anyone have any experience of the
benefits (if there are any) of splitting the delivery of application
pages between static and servlet i.e. have Apache/IIS serve the static
pages and Tomcat/Resin/Jetty the servlets?

I promise to get back on topic soon

Thanks,

Steve
 


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Forgive the slightly off-topic request, but I'm wondering if anyone has
any experience of performance comparisons of all the myriad of servlet
containers out there?

To start the ball rolling, I can safely say that the Oracle App server
is a real dog in comparison to Tomcat but it does have some nice wizzy
monitoring tools (perhaps that's why it's so slow).

I'd like to to know what people's experiences are with Jboss, geronimo,
Webspehere, Jetty etc.

Thanks,

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RE: Best Servlet Container

2006-10-03 Thread Steve O'Hara

Some nice anecdotal evidence/advice, thanks a lot.

I've got a follow-on question - does anyone have any experience of the
benefits (if there are any) of splitting the delivery of application
pages between static and servlet i.e. have Apache/IIS serve the static
pages and Tomcat/Resin/Jetty the servlets?

I promise to get back on topic soon

Thanks,

Steve
 

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Forgive the slightly off-topic request, but I'm wondering if anyone has
any experience of performance comparisons of all the myriad of servlet
containers out there?

To start the ball rolling, I can safely say that the Oracle App server
is a real dog in comparison to Tomcat but it does have some nice wizzy
monitoring tools (perhaps that's why it's so slow).

I'd like to to know what people's experiences are with Jboss, geronimo,
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Thanks,

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Re: Best Servlet Container

2006-10-03 Thread Scott Edward Skinner
Here is where Jetty shines. It has a snappy and efficient HTTP  
implementation; no need to use Apache for most apps.


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On Oct 3, 2006, at 7:52 PM, Steve O'Hara wrote:



Some nice anecdotal evidence/advice, thanks a lot.

I've got a follow-on question - does anyone have any experience of the
benefits (if there are any) of splitting the delivery of application
pages between static and servlet i.e. have Apache/IIS serve the static
pages and Tomcat/Resin/Jetty the servlets?

I promise to get back on topic soon

Thanks,

Steve


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Forgive the slightly off-topic request, but I'm wondering if anyone  
has

any experience of performance comparisons of all the myriad of servlet
containers out there?

To start the ball rolling, I can safely say that the Oracle App server
is a real dog in comparison to Tomcat but it does have some nice wizzy
monitoring tools (perhaps that's why it's so slow).

I'd like to to know what people's experiences are with Jboss,  
geronimo,

Webspehere, Jetty etc.

Thanks,

Steve


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Re: Best Servlet Container

2006-10-02 Thread Gonzalo Diethelm
Oracle's J2EE server is based off Orion. I would guess their servlet
container comes straight from Orion as well.

Regards.

On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 13:14 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:

 Geronimo and JBoss use Tomcat.
 
 Geronimo also offers a distribution with Jetty.
 
 Glassfish now has their own impl, although I don't know it's pedigree.
 I'd expect it's based on Tomcat.
 
 I don't know what WebSphere uses (you could probably guess looking at
 the jars), nor oracle.
 
 geir
 
 Steve O'Hara wrote:
  Forgive the slightly off-topic request, but I'm wondering if anyone has
  any experience of performance comparisons of all the myriad of servlet
  containers out there?
  
  To start the ball rolling, I can safely say that the Oracle App server
  is a real dog in comparison to Tomcat but it does have some nice wizzy
  monitoring tools (perhaps that's why it's so slow).
  
  I'd like to to know what people's experiences are with Jboss, geronimo,
  Webspehere, Jetty etc.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Steve
  
  
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RE: Best Servlet Container

2006-10-02 Thread gb1071nx
I've been wondering about this myself, and was about to ask on tomcat-user 
(fully expecting a few flames), but now that it's been brought up here..
 
what's the latest on Resin?  I keep hearing (here and there) that Resin kicks a 
lot of Tomcat butt, but I've been subscribed to the resin-interest list for 
about two weeks now, and there's been maybe 12 emails to it.  I take this as a 
sign that there is virtually no community around that container, or that 
everyone who uses it has absolutely no questions.
 
Question then:  Anyone have an informed opinion about Resin, specificially how 
it compares to Tomcat in terms of performance and stability and perhaps 
clustering (which I take it, requires a purchase of Resin 'pro')? 
 



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Subject: Best Servlet Container




Forgive the slightly off-topic request, but I'm wondering if anyone has
any experience of performance comparisons of all the myriad of servlet
containers out there?

To start the ball rolling, I can safely say that the Oracle App server
is a real dog in comparison to Tomcat but it does have some nice wizzy
monitoring tools (perhaps that's why it's so slow).

I'd like to to know what people's experiences are with Jboss, geronimo,
Webspehere, Jetty etc.

Thanks,

Steve


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Re: Best Servlet Container

2006-10-02 Thread Alain Moran
We use Resin Pro for our production servers ... I'll have to admit I 
don't get very deeply involved in it, but the guy who admins them swears 
by it ... its (apparently) faster and uses less memory than tomcat.


Alain

gb1071nx wrote:

I've been wondering about this myself, and was about to ask on tomcat-user 
(fully expecting a few flames), but now that it's been brought up here..
 
what's the latest on Resin?  I keep hearing (here and there) that Resin kicks a lot of Tomcat butt, but I've been subscribed to the resin-interest list for about two weeks now, and there's been maybe 12 emails to it.  I take this as a sign that there is virtually no community around that container, or that everyone who uses it has absolutely no questions.
 
Question then:  Anyone have an informed opinion about Resin, specificially how it compares to Tomcat in terms of performance and stability and perhaps clustering (which I take it, requires a purchase of Resin 'pro')? 
 




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Forgive the slightly off-topic request, but I'm wondering if anyone has
any experience of performance comparisons of all the myriad of servlet
containers out there?

To start the ball rolling, I can safely say that the Oracle App server
is a real dog in comparison to Tomcat but it does have some nice wizzy
monitoring tools (perhaps that's why it's so slow).

I'd like to to know what people's experiences are with Jboss, geronimo,
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Thanks,

Steve


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Re: Best Servlet Container

2006-10-02 Thread Scott Edward Skinner
Jetty is nice but its lack of dynamic servlet reloading has always  
been a sore point with me. For deployment Jetty is fine but I'd  
rather use Tomcat for development.


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Re: Best Servlet Container

2006-10-01 Thread Malcolm Edgar

To be honest I dont think much in it anymore. Tomcat 5.x is very
performant, JBoss uses the same catalina code base. WebSphere has a
good reputation for scalability, Jetty starts fast.

regards  Malcolm Edgar

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Forgive the slightly off-topic request, but I'm wondering if anyone has
any experience of performance comparisons of all the myriad of servlet
containers out there?

To start the ball rolling, I can safely say that the Oracle App server
is a real dog in comparison to Tomcat but it does have some nice wizzy
monitoring tools (perhaps that's why it's so slow).

I'd like to to know what people's experiences are with Jboss, geronimo,
Webspehere, Jetty etc.

Thanks,

Steve


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Re: Best Servlet Container

2006-10-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Geronimo and JBoss use Tomcat.

Geronimo also offers a distribution with Jetty.

Glassfish now has their own impl, although I don't know it's pedigree.
I'd expect it's based on Tomcat.

I don't know what WebSphere uses (you could probably guess looking at
the jars), nor oracle.

geir

Steve O'Hara wrote:
 Forgive the slightly off-topic request, but I'm wondering if anyone has
 any experience of performance comparisons of all the myriad of servlet
 containers out there?
 
 To start the ball rolling, I can safely say that the Oracle App server
 is a real dog in comparison to Tomcat but it does have some nice wizzy
 monitoring tools (perhaps that's why it's so slow).
 
 I'd like to to know what people's experiences are with Jboss, geronimo,
 Webspehere, Jetty etc.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Steve
 
 
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