Re: Questions About RealVNC Personal Edition...

2009-12-17 Thread Alex Pelts
I have been using Enterprise Edition for several years and very happy
with it. I have not used encryption but other than that it is an
excellent product. Although I am still at 4.2.9 version since none of
the new features interest me.

You can answer most of your questions by downloading a trial version of
software and testing it.
As far as overhead goes, vnc is using some sort of a block cipher (aes
or blowfish, I think) which does not create overhead or creates very
little overhead. So using encryption your speed should be the same.

One advantage of paid vnc over a free one is mirror driver. Over fast
links desktop feels almost like local. On unix though free version is
completely adequate.

You can try tight vnc which also has mirror driver and should have
somewhat better encoding over slow links.

Also you could try remote desktop which comes with windows and is pretty
good.

Alex


On 12/10/2009 3:01 PM, Peter Bunn wrote:
 
 Hello:
 
 For over a year, I've been using RealVNC (free version) through an SSH 
 tunnel to administer my Dad's Windows XP computer from several hundred 
 miles away.  Recently, his older machine went south and a new one was 
 purchased for him.  I have it mostly restored to the previous setup, but 
 ran into a problem with the SSH program I'd been using... and may want to 
 abandon it.
 
 I'm wondering if the RealVNC Personal Edition would be a better solution 
 for me, and I have a few questions...
 
 Is it as secure as the VNC over SSH tunnel method in all respects?
 
 Can the VNC service be run on a non-standard port (if desired) using the 
 'native' (XP SP3) Windows Firewall?
 
 Would it be possible to run Personal Edition 'side by side' with the free 
 version (on the same target machine) to provide a backup method?
 
 I'm still on a dialup connection (with no hope of getting broadband 
 anytime soon) and the VNC/SSH combination I'd been using, while slow, was 
 'survivable'... and a good bit faster than the web access service I had 
 as backup.
 
 With the added encryption overhead, will the Personal Edition of RealVNC 
 likely be noticeably slower than the free version?
 
 Any/all replies welcome and appreciated.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Peter B.
 
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Re: Questions About RealVNC Personal Edition...

2009-12-17 Thread Dale Eshelman
The short answer is NO
On Dec 15, 2009, at 08:23 AM, Robin Hill wrote:

 On Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 05:01:44PM -0600, Peter Bunn wrote:
 
 I'm wondering if the RealVNC Personal Edition would be a better solution 
 for me, and I have a few questions...
 
 Is it as secure as the VNC over SSH tunnel method in all respects?
 
 That depends really on what encryption they're using - this doesn't seem
 to be documented anywhere though.  I doubt it'll have quite the same
 level of rigorous testing as openssh has been through though (unless
 they're using openssl under the hood anyway).  That's unlikely to make
 any difference for this sort of usage though.
 
 Can the VNC service be run on a non-standard port (if desired) using the 
 'native' (XP SP3) Windows Firewall?
 
 Would it be possible to run Personal Edition 'side by side' with the free 
 version (on the same target machine) to provide a backup method?
 
 You'd be best addressing these to the RealVNC support/sales emails.  I
 don't see why you shouldn't be able to run it on a non-standard port
 though.  Running it side-by-side is likely to be problematic though.
 
 I'm still on a dialup connection (with no hope of getting broadband 
 anytime soon) and the VNC/SSH combination I'd been using, while slow, was 
 'survivable'... and a good bit faster than the web access service I had 
 as backup.
 
 With the added encryption overhead, will the Personal Edition of RealVNC 
 likely be noticeably slower than the free version?
 
 Shouldn't be - you're trading the ssh encryption overhead for the
 RealVNC encryption overhead.
 
 The alternative is to stick with ssh - you should be able to run openssh
 server with cygwin, or freeSSHd (www.freesshd.com) is a more
 user-friendly server.
 
 Cheers,
Robin
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how to remote to clients PC for troubleshooting?

2009-12-17 Thread Chris R. Johnson
Hi,

How can I remote into a clients computer (miles away and not on a network) to 
troubleshoot it?

Could I operate from a Mac this way into a PC?

Which version will I need? Enterprise?

Thank you.

Chris



  
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ATT as service provider

2009-12-17 Thread Nancy
My iPhone will not access my VNC server whenever ATT is the ISP for the 
iPhone.  The iPhone will, however, access the server when connected by Wifi to 
an ISP other than ATT.  Any suggestions as to why this is happening or how to 
get around it?
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RE: how to remote to clients PC for troubleshooting?

2009-12-17 Thread Philip Herlihy
Well, the client machine has to be reachable by some sort of network or you
can forget it!  RealVNC does work reasonably well over dial-up, even;
otherwise, you need to set up a virtual server (other terms are used)
within the broadband router.  See http://www.portforward.com/ for details on
how to do this. (Port 5900).  If the PC connects directly to the Internet
(e.g. by using a USB modem rather than a router) then you can connect from
your end having adjusted any firewall on the machine to allow this.

If your client is not up to configuring the necessary forwarding, then you
can run a viewer in Listening mode at your end and have your client
(person!) initiate the connection from the server at their end - then it's
up to you to do the port-forwarding on your own router (5500 in this
direction).

Of course, you have to have the server installed on the
machine-to-be-controlled and a viewer on your own machine.  The Enterprise
Viewer is free to download and there is a free version for XP and below
which can be run on the PC.  For Vista or 7 (?) you need to buy the Personal
or Enterprise versions, as the free one falls foul of the tighter security
architecture in these later versions of Windows.

Philip Herlihy   

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Subject: how to remote to clients PC for troubleshooting?

Hi,

How can I remote into a clients computer (miles away and not on a network)
to troubleshoot it?

Could I operate from a Mac this way into a PC?

Which version will I need? Enterprise?

Thank you.

Chris



  
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