Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Wolf Fischer

Turns out there seems to be another side to the story (again):
http://e-catsite.com/2012/02/21/ni-corroborates-rossi-statements/

Betts confirms that the partnership has ended. She however also confirms 
Rossis statements on how the relation between both parties has been. 
Further, the term discussion seems to be meant as a deeper 
collaboration in the beginning.


Wolf


Some weeks ago, Rossi said that NI, he and the customer were working 
together on the 1MW plant. And now the customer wants something 
different? Why change a running system (if it ever was running)? And 
why is it important to the customer, which company supplies the 
controlling mechanism for a heating plant?


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On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de 
mailto:wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote:


Some weeks ago, Rossi said that NI, he and the customer were
working together on the 1MW plant. And now the customer wants
something different? Why change a running system (if it ever was
running)? And why is it important to the customer, which company
supplies the controlling mechanism for a heating plant?

Wolf


 From Rossi:

Also our Customer has chosen other
suppliers for the first generation of the domestic E-Cats and
of the 1
MW plants. 

It is possible that a simple PLC/PAC could have been chosen.
 I don't
think stabilization would be that big a challenge.  All Rossi
needed
was some feedback.

T







[Vo]:Professor Rossi and The Crazy Ones

2012-02-22 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex,

In case you haven t seen the Youtube  the Crazy Ones by Steve Jobs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rwsuXHA7RA

Highly inspirational.

Ron Kita, Chiralex


[Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

2012-02-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
See:

http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/

What do people here think?

I honestly do not see any advantage to this compared to old-fashioned HTML
screens, but maybe I should give it a chance.

This took an hour to produce. It is easy to work with, I will grant.


Some of the pages and links here are functional. Hold the cursor over
Special Collections. Select Special Collections (or click here):

http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=57

And try clicking on BARC Studies in Cold Fusion

Note that on this screen I removed the Google search and Recent Posts
from the left side. I think I can put back something like a menu of special
collections on the left side, instead of Recent Posts. Or if the section
is too long I can put a list of headlines there, which would be a good idea
in the section A look at experiments.

The LIBRARY menu item goes to the new library screens.

In the News section, I set the number of news items to 3, so the arrow
appears at the bottom saying Older posts. In a real system I suppose I
would set it to 10 or 20.

This is a rudimentary, no-frills theme. There are thousands more available,
ranging from bad to atrocious. See, for example:

http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/

They all waste a lot of screen space. Most of them feature distracting and
gratuitous graphics.

I can instantly insert one of these other themes to change the overall
appearance.

- Jed


RE: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
What was interesting in the e-catsite.com article was this:

. soon on this site I will post an article and details regarding an LANR
(lattice-assisted nuclear reaction) patent that has been translated into
English and made available to this site by its author.  The patent was
originally granted in Belgium in the 1990s but has since lapsed.  The author
has requested that I publish that information here as he wishes it to be
shared and widely disseminated.

 

Does anyone know who he is referring to?

 

RE: Rossi/NI situation.

My assumption all along was that NI was helping more with
engineering/technical *advice* on how to monitor the various parameters.
they have extensive experience in that area.  There would be no need for NI
to remain actively involved for any length of time once the instrumentation
design was completed. at that point, NI might just be a supplier, but even
that is unlikely since their products tend to be quite pricey, and Rossi
wants to keep the price as low as possible.

 

-Mark

 

From: Wolf Fischer [mailto:wolffisc...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:56 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership
with NI

 

Turns out there seems to be another side to the story (again):
http://e-catsite.com/2012/02/21/ni-corroborates-rossi-statements/

Betts confirms that the partnership has ended. She however also confirms
Rossis statements on how the relation between both parties has been.
Further, the term discussion seems to be meant as a deeper collaboration
in the beginning. 

Wolf



 



RE: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

2012-02-22 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Morning Jed,

 

Very first impression upon seeing it was well done; simple and organized.
First paragraph summarizes its purpose, and first page summarizes the
content to be found.  No BS distracting one's eye from the real info... good
job!

 

-Mark

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:48 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

 

See:

 

http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/ 

 

What do people here think?

 

I honestly do not see any advantage to this compared to old-fashioned HTML
screens, but maybe I should give it a chance.

 

This took an hour to produce. It is easy to work with, I will grant.

 

 

Some of the pages and links here are functional. Hold the cursor over
Special Collections. Select Special Collections (or click here):

 

http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=57 

 

And try clicking on BARC Studies in Cold Fusion

 

Note that on this screen I removed the Google search and Recent Posts from
the left side. I think I can put back something like a menu of special
collections on the left side, instead of Recent Posts. Or if the section
is too long I can put a list of headlines there, which would be a good idea
in the section A look at experiments.

 

The LIBRARY menu item goes to the new library screens.

 

In the News section, I set the number of news items to 3, so the arrow
appears at the bottom saying Older posts. In a real system I suppose I
would set it to 10 or 20.

 

This is a rudimentary, no-frills theme. There are thousands more available,
ranging from bad to atrocious. See, for example:

 

http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/ 

 

They all waste a lot of screen space. Most of them feature distracting and
gratuitous graphics.

 

I can instantly insert one of these other themes to change the overall
appearance.

 

- Jed

 



[Vo]:The Brick

2012-02-22 Thread Jones Beene
Or - a few random thoughts on how to turn your most prized possession into a
brick...

http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devas
tating-design

So sad. Many of us had highest hopes for Tesla being the continuation of
what can now be called the Jobs Karma... following the miracle at
Cupertino and prior string of successes in that area: Intel, AMD, Google,
HP, you know the litany of the NBT (next big thing) ... and Tesla Motors was
to be a major part of the new-energy version of the 'next big thing' -
(which always seems to fins a nexus in the SF Bay area, for whatever
reason).

Maybe Tesla can pull it off eventually, but it is looking grim to many
skeptics, with Fisker ready to bit the bullet, and they will likely take
A123 with them. After all, Colma is the next stop up the road from silicon
valley (local joke).

One of the main reasons that Tesla looked to be in the driver's seat, so to
speak, a few ago was that EEStor - which is/was almost completely unrelated
to them (except for roots in Silicon Valley) looked like it would be the
salvation of many Eco-optimist's green dreams. EEStor have tanked,
technically, but a legacy lives on, and it is not with Zenn (which is also
gasping for air). 

In the most recent http://bariumtitanate.blogspot.com/ there is a hint of
salvation. Note the patent from Mark A Wendman (Freemont, CA, US)
Application Number: 13/068832.

Now for the 'connect the dots' segment of today's broadcast. 

Although Tesla motors is headquartered is in Palo Alto, their plant is in
... ta da ... Freemont, CA, US. Coincidence or no? Some of the insider info
- and a picture of Mark Wendman appears here:

http://bariumtitanate.blogspot.com/2010/08/vinod-khosla-only-interested-in-s
hares.html

... but it is all a bit dated.

Anyway - the dream of the 'next big thing' in energy lives on, even if Rossi
and DGT should falter, and it could involve both the so-called Bettery
which is the electrical storage device that costs about 2/3 less than the
present best solution (LiFePo) for the same capacity and half the weight,
and ... an onboard recharging capability which does not involve fossil fuel.


This could and should involve LENR, or else it could have even involved
something from a world away (like what was supposed to have emerged from
South Africa recently) but since that will not likely happen, who will be
the next contender ? 

(insert Marlon's famous line from 'On the Waterfront' with Rossi's accent)

Stay tuned...

Jones


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Re: [Vo]:Professor Rossi and The Crazy Ones

2012-02-22 Thread James Bowery
Grammar correction:

Think differently not Think different

PS:  They forgot Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot just sayin'

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings Vortex,

 In case you haven t seen the Youtube  the Crazy Ones by Steve Jobs:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rwsuXHA7RA

 Highly inspirational.

 Ron Kita, Chiralex



Re: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

2012-02-22 Thread Michele Comitini
+1

Can be improved of course. IMHO it's a good start.  You should make
the searchable part with similar colors.

Add a few widgets for the social gossip like the following and you are
half done:

http://www.ignitesocialmedia.com/tools/follow-me/

mic


Il 22 febbraio 2012 16:48, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 See:

 http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/

 What do people here think?

 I honestly do not see any advantage to this compared to old-fashioned HTML
 screens, but maybe I should give it a chance.

 This took an hour to produce. It is easy to work with, I will grant.


 Some of the pages and links here are functional. Hold the cursor over
 Special Collections. Select Special Collections (or click here):

 http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=57

 And try clicking on BARC Studies in Cold Fusion

 Note that on this screen I removed the Google search and Recent Posts from
 the left side. I think I can put back something like a menu of special
 collections on the left side, instead of Recent Posts. Or if the section
 is too long I can put a list of headlines there, which would be a good idea
 in the section A look at experiments.

 The LIBRARY menu item goes to the new library screens.

 In the News section, I set the number of news items to 3, so the arrow
 appears at the bottom saying Older posts. In a real system I suppose I
 would set it to 10 or 20.

 This is a rudimentary, no-frills theme. There are thousands more available,
 ranging from bad to atrocious. See, for example:

 http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/

 They all waste a lot of screen space. Most of them feature distracting and
 gratuitous graphics.

 I can instantly insert one of these other themes to change the overall
 appearance.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

2012-02-22 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
Looks good! I especially like the library, what software do you use for
that?
I would drop the /wordpres/ part of your url and I wouldn't worry to much
about themes. The theme of the day changes faster than you can keep up with
anyway. Content is king.
Cheers,
Bastiaan.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Michele Comitini 
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1

 Can be improved of course. IMHO it's a good start.  You should make
 the searchable part with similar colors.

 Add a few widgets for the social gossip like the following and you are
 half done:

 http://www.ignitesocialmedia.com/tools/follow-me/

 mic


 Il 22 febbraio 2012 16:48, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com ha
 scritto:
   See:
 
  http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/
 
  What do people here think?
 
  I honestly do not see any advantage to this compared to old-fashioned
 HTML
  screens, but maybe I should give it a chance.
 
  This took an hour to produce. It is easy to work with, I will grant.
 
 
  Some of the pages and links here are functional. Hold the cursor over
  Special Collections. Select Special Collections (or click here):
 
  http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=57
 
  And try clicking on BARC Studies in Cold Fusion
 
  Note that on this screen I removed the Google search and Recent Posts
 from
  the left side. I think I can put back something like a menu of special
  collections on the left side, instead of Recent Posts. Or if the
 section
  is too long I can put a list of headlines there, which would be a good
 idea
  in the section A look at experiments.
 
  The LIBRARY menu item goes to the new library screens.
 
  In the News section, I set the number of news items to 3, so the arrow
  appears at the bottom saying Older posts. In a real system I suppose I
  would set it to 10 or 20.
 
  This is a rudimentary, no-frills theme. There are thousands more
 available,
  ranging from bad to atrocious. See, for example:
 
  http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/
 
  They all waste a lot of screen space. Most of them feature distracting
 and
  gratuitous graphics.
 
  I can instantly insert one of these other themes to change the overall
  appearance.
 
  - Jed
 




Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Michele Comitini
Who is the new supplier? Ti?

BTW I find strange that a customer has such decisional power on a
corporate business.  Does that imply that if a bigger customer comes
they would change their supplier?  No it probably means that the
customer has become more a owner...


mic


Il 22 febbraio 2012 17:02, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net ha scritto:
 RE: Rossi/NI situation…

 My assumption all along was that NI was helping more with
 engineering/technical *advice* on how to monitor the various parameters…
 they have extensive experience in that area.  There would be no need for NI
 to remain actively involved for any length of time once the instrumentation
 design was completed… at that point, NI might just be a supplier, but even
 that is unlikely since their products tend to be quite pricey, and Rossi
 wants to keep the price as low as possible.



 -Mark



Re: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

2012-02-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bastiaan Bergman bastiaan.berg...@gmail.com wrote:


 Looks good! I especially like the library, what software do you use for
 that?


http://scriptcase.net/phpgenerator/home/home.php

In Brazil.

I will make some improvements to that. Maybe I can add a do-it-yourself SQL
inquiry for people such as Alan Fletcher, who wants to Have It All.



 I would drop the /wordpres/ part of your url


That's just the address where it is uploaded temporarily. If I go with this
version I will put it in the root directory.



 and I wouldn't worry to much about themes.


I need to get one a little more flexible than this. I can't even change the
size of the foreground panel. Maybe there is a way but I can't find it.
Other themes have more options. And as we all know,  options are the bane
of modern software.

I have to figure out a few more features of WordPress, such as how to have
older Featured news items with their own listing. I assume it has something
to do with Categories.

It looks like I have to manually change the dates on the news items (Posts).

I will clean up the pages and throw away some of the clutter if I do this.



If anyone would like to assist I would be happy to give you a name and
password. I have turned off the Comments in all sections, because I don't
care what the unwashed masses think about cold fusion. I have heard it all
before.

However, if anyone would like to slave away manually copying Posts from the
present pages and entering dates into them, you are more than welcome.

It would be good if you know something about WordPress. Mind you, I don't
know the first thing about it, but you hum a few bars I can fake it.

- Jed


RE: [Vo]:The Brick

2012-02-22 Thread Jones Beene
One comment which I was hoping to elicit from the Free Energy Futurists of
Vortex, re:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2012/0034528.html

... is this: since the prime claim of this patent seems to involve a
nanopowder version of protonated titanate - aren't they really talking
about an LENR battery? Maybe I am reading too much into it.

If not, the assignee may have found a niche that beats the heck out of
recapping. 

We know that hydrogen isotopes are active in titanium nanopowder going back
to Otto Reifenschweiler (reduced radioactivity of tritium in titanium nano
particles). And a lot of people did research in the 1990s (notably Dash et
al) on deuterium loaded titanium electrolysis. So there is adequate
precedent for the positive effect of titanium confinement on the two heavier
isotopes of hydrogen.

But as far as I can tell from scanning the LENR-CANR archives, no one has
published positive results on protium loading of titanium oxides at all. And
EEStor, back in the day did not employ hydrogen loading either, AFAIK.

Therefore, it appears possible that despite the similarity to other work in
two different fields, Mark Wendman may have found a fabulous niche for this
- and adequately protected it. 

Obviously no one would never be so foolish as to claim OU from a battery
configuration, but extraordinary performance might nevertheless be related
to the ability of Cavity QED to operate on protons in a way that gave
stunning performance. (in my dreams and Roarty's as well)

Bottom line. Will a bettery be forthcoming this time around, will it
salvage the electric car, or will this new twist on titanate instead drag-on
interminably like the EEStor fiasco?

Jones

_

Or - a few random thoughts on how to turn your most prized
possession into a brick...


http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devas
tating-design

So sad. Many of us had highest hopes for Tesla being the
continuation of what can now be called the Jobs Karma... following the
miracle at Cupertino and prior string of successes in that area: Intel, AMD,
Google, HP, you know the litany of the NBT (next big thing) ... and Tesla
Motors was to be a major part of the new-energy version of the 'next big
thing' - (which always seems to fins a nexus in the SF Bay area, for
whatever reason).

Maybe Tesla can pull it off eventually, but it is looking
grim to many skeptics, with Fisker ready to bit the bullet, and they will
likely take A123 with them. After all, Colma is the next stop up the road
from silicon valley (local joke).

One of the main reasons that Tesla looked to be in the
driver's seat, so to speak, a few ago was that EEStor - which is/was almost
completely unrelated to them (except for roots in Silicon Valley) looked
like it would be the salvation of many Eco-optimist's green dreams. EEStor
have tanked, technically, but a legacy lives on, and it is not with Zenn
(which is also gasping for air). 

In the most recent http://bariumtitanate.blogspot.com/ there
is a hint of salvation. Note the patent from Mark A Wendman (Freemont, CA,
US) Application Number: 13/068832.

Now for the 'connect the dots' segment of today's broadcast.


Although Tesla motors is headquartered is in Palo Alto,
their plant is in ... ta da ... Freemont, CA, US. Coincidence or no? Some of
the insider info - and a picture of Mark Wendman appears here:


http://bariumtitanate.blogspot.com/2010/08/vinod-khosla-only-interested-in-s
hares.html

... but it is all a bit dated.

Anyway - the dream of the 'next big thing' in energy lives
on, even if Rossi and DGT should falter, and it could involve both the
so-called Bettery which is the electrical storage device that costs about
2/3 less than the present best solution (LiFePo) for the same capacity and
half the weight, and ... an onboard recharging capability which does not
involve fossil fuel.  

This could and should involve LENR, or else it could have
even involved something from a world away (like what was supposed to have
emerged from South Africa recently) but since that will not likely happen,
who will be the next contender ? 

(insert Marlon's famous line from 'On the Waterfront' with
Rossi's accent)

Stay tuned...

Jones


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Re: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

2012-02-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher


At 07:48 AM 2/22/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
See:

http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/ 
What do people here think?
Looks fine to me. (Some idjuts dismiss sites because they look 'old
fashioned' -- but that might be a useful filter.)
At least one thing is better -- the search results work better under WP
than in the old one.
I suppose that one day some better-new-thing will take over from
wordpress -- but it's so widespread that there will be automatic
converters.







Re: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

2012-02-22 Thread ecat builder
Hi Jed,

The database/searching is looking good. Have you tried adding full
text search? (Searching for alumina powder returns no hits, even
though some of the PDF's use that term. Extracting the text from the
pdf and adding it to the database can be automated.)

What database fields are available for the library?

If you open the database and ftp/html/php to a number of trusted
developers, you could probably get some really interesting results...

Some additional fields that could be useful:

Full text extracted from source
Language
Citations (list of references that )
Followers (list of people who like the paper)
Discussion or wiki for the paper (vbulletin style?)
Format(s) (HTML, PDF, PPT, etc)
Some kind of Rating system
Major categories (Ni-H, Pd, bubble, etc.)

Maybe add a discussion or request section where users/researchers can
put in what would be helpful to them..

Little changes like adding a COUNT(author) link that would display the
other (N) papers written by any given author.. just takes a good php
developer a few minutes to add each feature.. Developers who produce
custom query/search pages could run them by you and the good ideas
could be merged into the final product..

(As far as WordPress goes.. I'm not a huge fan, but its cheap and the
plug-ins are plentiful.)

- Brad



Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report

2012-02-22 Thread Alan J Fletcher

At 09:18 AM 2/22/2012, ecat builder wrote:
Sterling Allan has posted his report on his trip to South Africa to 
see a 5kW fuel-free generator:

http://pesn.com/2012/02/22/9602042_South_African_Fuel-Free_Generator_Preparing_for_Market/
This technology is back on Sterling's #1 spot for Top 5 Exotic Technologies.


I guessed it was a failure (the radio silence and the removal from 
the top-5 list).
So ..  presuming it's not fake ... how does it work?  (I followed 
some of the earlier links) 



Re: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

2012-02-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote:


 The database/searching is looking good. Have you tried adding full
 text search? (Searching for alumina powder returns no hits,


Try it on the Detail screen. It returns one paper.




 even
 though some of the PDF's use that term.


For that you want the Google search box on the front page. It returns 13
results. (about 13 results)



 What database fields are available for the library?



 1 Recnum int(4)
 2 Author text
 3 CoAuthors text
 4 YearPublished int(4)
 5 Title text
 6 Description text  {HTML formatted}
 7 Publisher text
 8 URL text
 9 DateUploaded text
 10 Abstract text
 11 Keywords text



Followers (list of people who like the paper)
 Discussion or wiki for the paper (vbulletin style?)


I don't want that! It would upset the authors. Some of them would pull
their papers. Discussions belong here. I am not responsible for what people
say here.

- Jed


[Vo]:If LENR is successful - you may not be invited to the party

2012-02-22 Thread pagnucco

Tech Bubble 2.0: It's a Private Thing

http://www.minyanville.com/businessmarkets/articles/ipo-facebook-ipo-social-media-social/2/22/2012/id/39516

Along with private, secretive dark pool markets, investment markets
appear to be becoming exclusive clubs.

Hope this doesn't happen to LENR, if it can be commercialized.






[Vo]:SK and Widom Larsen Theory -- What do we know?

2012-02-22 Thread noone noone
What do we know about Steven Krivit in regards to Widom Larsen theory?

It seems obvious that he is eager to push the theory at every opportunity. In 
fact, he has went on a rampage against the term cold fusion. What is so 
ridiculous about this is that even if WL theory is correct (which I do not 
think it is), it still seems like a form of fusion in my opinion.

In addition, he seems to write unfavorably about those researchers that use the 
term cold fusion instead of LENR. Perhaps even more interestingly, he goes out 
of his way to promote Widom Larsen theory to NASA scientists and many others.

What is his exact relationship to Widom Larsen theory? 

How is he connected to the originators of the theory?

I've read some online posts here and elsewhere in which it is speculated that 
his financial backers may have a vested interest in WL theory. I do not know if 
this is true or not, but his continual support of WL theory makes it difficult 
to deny the possibility.

Does anyone here have any solid information?

Between everyone here I think we should be able to determine the truth.

Thanks.

Re: [Vo]:SK and Widom Larsen Theory -- What do we know?

2012-02-22 Thread Andre Blum

This is what Rossi said today about Krivit:

The snake is not a skeptic, is a puppet paid by puppeteers who would 
compete with us but are not able to. He is strongly connected with their 
company. He gets money to make libelling against us also from other 2 
well identified entities. We will give detailed and throughly 
information in due time. Everything in due time, we will get some fun.




On 02/22/2012 03:29 PM, noone noone wrote:


What is his exact relationship to Widom Larsen theory?

How is he connected to the originators of the theory?

I've read some online posts here and elsewhere in which it is 
speculated that his financial backers may have a vested interest in WL 
theory. I do not know if this is true or not, but his continual 
support of WL theory makes it difficult to deny the possibility.


Does anyone here have any solid information?

Between everyone here I think we should be able to determine the truth.

Thanks.








Re: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

2012-02-22 Thread Michele Comitini
Il 22 febbraio 2012 20:02, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote:


 The database/searching is looking good. Have you tried adding full
 text search? (Searching for alumina powder returns no hits,


 Try it on the Detail screen. It returns one paper.

Use the search (custom google search) field in the search page you
will find them all.
I think the modal window for the results is cumbersome. Better use a
normal page.





 even
 though some of the PDF's use that term.


 For that you want the Google search box on the front page. It returns 13
 results. (about 13 results)



 What database fields are available for the library?



 1 Recnum int(4)
 2 Author text
 3 CoAuthors text
 4 YearPublished int(4)
 5 Title text
 6 Description text  {HTML formatted}
 7 Publisher text
 8 URL text
 9 DateUploaded text
 10 Abstract text
 11 Keywords text



 Followers (list of people who like the paper)
 Discussion or wiki for the paper (vbulletin style?)


 I don't want that! It would upset the authors. Some of them would pull their
 papers. Discussions belong here. I am not responsible for what people say
 here.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:SK and Widom Larsen Theory -- What do we know?

2012-02-22 Thread noone noone
Thanks for posting Rossi's comments.


It would be great if we could get some confirmation.


Does anyone here have any information indicating that Krivit is indeed 
connected with the originators of WL theory?




 From: Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SK and Widom Larsen Theory -- What do we know?
 

This is what Rossi said today about Krivit:

The snake is not a skeptic, is a puppet paid by puppeteers who would compete 
with us but are not able to. He is strongly connected with their company. He 
gets money to make libelling against us also from other 2 well identified 
entities. We will give detailed and throughly information in due time. 
Everything in due time, we will get some fun.



On 02/22/2012 03:29 PM, noone noone wrote: 

What is his exact relationship to Widom Larsen theory? 

How is he connected to the originators of the theory?

I've read some online posts here and elsewhere in which it
is speculated that his financial backers may have a vested
interest in WL theory. I do not know if this is true or not,
but his continual support of WL theory makes it difficult to
deny the possibility.

Does anyone here have any solid information?

Between everyone here I think we should be able to determine
the truth.

Thanks.






Re: [Vo]:SK and Widom Larsen Theory -- What do we know?

2012-02-22 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Blum

 This is what Rossi said today about Krivit:

 The snake is not a skeptic, is a puppet paid by puppeteers who would compete
 with us but are not able to. He is strongly connected with their company. He
 gets money to make libelling against us also from other 2 well identified
 entities. We will give detailed and throughly information in due time.
 Everything in due time, we will get some fun.

Don't believe everything that Rossi says.

As president Reagan became famous for saying:

Trust, but verify.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:SK and Widom Larsen Theory -- What do we know?

2012-02-22 Thread Andre Blum

It seems noone wants to verify like you recommend.
That is, not noone, someone. noone.


On 02/22/2012 04:38 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:

 From Blum


This is what Rossi said today about Krivit:

The snake is not a skeptic, is a puppet paid by puppeteers who would compete
with us but are not able to. He is strongly connected with their company. He
gets money to make libelling against us also from other 2 well identified
entities. We will give detailed and throughly information in due time.
Everything in due time, we will get some fun.

Don't believe everything that Rossi says.

As president Reagan became famous for saying:

Trust, but verify.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks





Re: [Vo]:SK and Widom Larsen Theory -- What do we know?

2012-02-22 Thread noone noone
Exactly. I want verification -- not just rumors or guesses.

Due to Krivit's behavior I could guess that he may have some connection to the 
originators of WL theory, but I cannot prove it. I have zero proof.

Does anyone here have any proof that actually links Krivit to Larsen, Widom, or 
Lattice Energy?

I cannot believe that someone that pushes a theory like he does -- attacking 
credible researchers in the process -- does not have some sort of incentive to 
do so.




 From: Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:SK and Widom Larsen Theory -- What do we know?
 
It seems noone wants to verify like you recommend.
That is, not noone, someone. noone.


On 02/22/2012 04:38 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
  From Blum

 This is what Rossi said today about Krivit:

 The snake is not a skeptic, is a puppet paid by puppeteers who would compete
 with us but are not able to. He is strongly connected with their company. He
 gets money to make libelling against us also from other 2 well identified
 entities. We will give detailed and throughly information in due time.
 Everything in due time, we will get some fun.
 Don't believe everything that Rossi says.

 As president Reagan became famous for saying:

 Trust, but verify.

 Regards
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks


Re: [Vo]:The Brick

2012-02-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
 Or - a few random thoughts on how to turn your most prized possession into a
 brick...

 http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devas
 tating-design

The problem could be easily solved with a hard battery disconnect to
avoid the car's inherent inactive load from draining the battery.  It
could deplete still; but, over a much longer time . . . months as
opposed to weeks.

I presume the OS for the vehicle is in non-volatile memory.

T



Re: [Vo]:No faster than light neutrinos after all

2012-02-22 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
It seems that it was the discrepancy was only due to a bad connection
between gps receiver and computer.

http://www.repubblica.it/scienze/2012/02/22/news/neutrini_pi_veloci_della_luce_c_era_anomalia_in_strumenti-30349960/


Giovanni


RE: [Vo]:The Brick

2012-02-22 Thread Jones Beene
From: Terry 

http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devas
tating-design

 The problem could be easily solved with a hard battery disconnect to avoid
the car's inherent inactive load from draining the battery. It could deplete
still; but, over a much longer time . . . months as opposed to weeks.


Or given the exorbitant cost of the battery replacement, a tiny Wankel
genset would be an elegant solution ... the 150 cc is surprisingly tiny and
powerful.

http://www.freedom-motors.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=9
6Itemid=78
http://green.autoblog.com/gallery/fev-wankel-range-extender/#photo-1509601

attachment: winmail.dat

Re: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

2012-02-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
I must say, it is a piece of cake working with this. If all else fails you
can resort to old fashioned methods. There does not seem to be a menu item
to change the page footer, so I searched around in the folder for this
Style (twentyend), found something called footer.php and bashed it.

FTP the new version and Bob's your uncle.

I'll probably wreck something by such methods.

I am working with a local copy of Wordpress, running under Xampp.

I find lots of utility programs to do first things such as making a
separate list of featured articles. The problem is that these utility
programs are written by amateurs with mistakes in them. For example the
instructions one of them -- called PopLists -- says you're supposed to
insert a text widget adding the following to create a list of featured news
items (defined by me), like so:


?php
  if( function_exists(pl_postlist) )
pl_postlist(MYPOSTLISTSEXAMPLE);
?

That's grand, but it does not actually work. It left some text on the
screen:

);?

Interesting.

So I went in, chopped out some code, and made it look like this, which has
to be illegal but it works:


?php
  if( function_exists(pl_postlist) )
pl_postlist(FEATUREDNEWS


It will probably stop working one of these days. Something, somewhere is
supplying the close-quote, close-paran . . . I have no idea what.

I do not like group-sourced software!

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

2012-02-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's grand, but it does not actually work. It left some text on the
 screen:

 );?

Looks like the Guy Hawkes mask so loved by Anonymous!

T



Re: [Vo]:Ferromagnetic form of carbon

2012-02-22 Thread Michael Foster
This work is based on the assumption that there is no iron deposited in the 
carbon soot. Years ago I did a number of experiments that convinced me that 
carbon can be transmuted into iron in an electric arc. I am certainly not the 
first person to observe this, but I did extensive testing on the results and 
found unequivocally that iron is created from carbon under the right 
conditions. I'll bet these folks didn't bother to test for the presence of iron 
in their ferromagnetic carbon.

M.

--- On Tue, 2/21/12, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
 Subject: [Vo]:Ferromagnetic form of carbon
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 8:51 PM
 Ockham's razor at work ... (sometimes
 Ock. doesn't work; after all it is not
 a 'law' -but in the case of the putative fusion of carbon to
 iron, there is
 little doubt that it provides a close and comfortable shave;
 and 'conserves
 a few miracles' as well.
 Magnetic Soot; July 2004; Scientific American Magazine; by
 Graham P. Collins
 Recent decades have seen great interest in novel carbon
 structures such as
 buckyballs and nanotubes. In 1997 researchers in Australia
 discovered yet
 another form of carbon: a spidery, fractal-like composition
 they dubbed
 nano-foam. At this year's March meeting of the American
 Physical Society,
 the group reported that this gossamer substance is
 ferromagnetic (like
 iron), the only type of pure carbon that has that property.
 The foam's
 magnetic behavior suggests that innovative uses might be
 possible, such as
 serving as a contrast-enhancing agent in magnetic resonance
 imaging.
 Andrei V. Rode and his co-workers at the Australian National
 University in
 Canberra created carbon nano-foam when they blasted a glassy
 form of carbon
 with a series of short laser pulses in a container filled
 with inert argon
 gas. The pulses produced a plume of carbon vapor that
 settled as a thin
 layer on the vessel walls. To the naked eye, it looks like a
 conventional
 soot deposit. 
 End of abstract.
 
 



Re: [Vo]:The Brick

2012-02-22 Thread Michele Comitini
I agree this seems idiotic.  They could just isolate the battery pack
from any connection except a small controller that wakes up at regular
intervals or in case of external events and checks the status.
It needs a board with 3d accelerometer, pressure sensor, temp sensor,
gps,  and of course gpio connected radio key decoder.  The board can
have 3G capability to send alert if battery is dying and other events
through sms, email or rpc.  The status of the battery would be know
remotely with accuracy.  The board could run on its own battery (2 AA
would suffice for a year).  It would also function as a car alarm.

mic

Il 22 febbraio 2012 21:55, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
 Or - a few random thoughts on how to turn your most prized possession into a
 brick...

 http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devas
 tating-design

 The problem could be easily solved with a hard battery disconnect to
 avoid the car's inherent inactive load from draining the battery.  It
 could deplete still; but, over a much longer time . . . months as
 opposed to weeks.

 I presume the OS for the vehicle is in non-volatile memory.

 T




Re: [Vo]:The Brick

2012-02-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I agree this seems idiotic.

Indeed!  PDGT is installing a GSM link to inform them if their
Hyperions need service.  And they cost a lot less!!

Fortunately, my Tesla stock is still trading around $3500 per share,
twice my investment price.

I wonder how Toyota will solve this with the RAV4 using a Tesla battery?

I understand the Leaf will not allow one to discharge the battery
beyond a certain level.  This further limits the range but avoids
damage to the battery.

T



Re: [Vo]:The Brick

2012-02-22 Thread Michele Comitini
Il 22 febbraio 2012 23:23, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Michele Comitini
 michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I agree this seems idiotic.

 Indeed!  PDGT is installing a GSM link to inform them if their
 Hyperions need service.  And they cost a lot less!!
the needed hardware  board could range around 40$ for an order  200 
n  1000 less for more.  Still there be need some good firmware and
good engineering and those would bring the price much higher  but only
for small volumes.

Something like the following does provide much of what is needed:

http://www.telit.com/en/products.php?p_id=3p_ac=showp=109


mic



RE: [Vo]:Ferromagnetic form of carbon

2012-02-22 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Michael,

How did you determine that iron was present?


-Original Message-
From: Michael Foster 

This work is based on the assumption that there is no iron deposited in the
carbon soot. Years ago I did a number of experiments that convinced me
that carbon can be transmuted into iron in an electric arc. I am certainly
not the first person to observe this, but I did extensive testing on the
results and found unequivocally that iron is created from carbon under the
right conditions. I'll bet these folks didn't bother to test for the
presence of iron in their ferromagnetic carbon.

M.






Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Alain Sepeda
in real big business customers can be the real bosses.
they are not selling potatoes, and even a farmer that sell potatoes to
MacDonald can be frced to
follow some advices and prcesses to reach the client needs...

partnership with the provider is the secret of some big industrial
sucesses, like in germany or japan.
and lack of respect to the subcontractor can be the secret of failure like
with GM...

2012/2/22 Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com

 Who is the new supplier? Ti?

 BTW I find strange that a customer has such decisional power on a
 corporate business.  Does that imply that if a bigger customer comes
 they would change their supplier?  No it probably means that the
 customer has become more a owner...


 mic


 Il 22 febbraio 2012 17:02, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
 zeropo...@charter.net ha scritto:
  RE: Rossi/NI situation…
 
  My assumption all along was that NI was helping more with
  engineering/technical *advice* on how to monitor the various parameters…
  they have extensive experience in that area.  There would be no need for
 NI
  to remain actively involved for any length of time once the
 instrumentation
  design was completed… at that point, NI might just be a supplier, but
 even
  that is unlikely since their products tend to be quite pricey, and Rossi
  wants to keep the price as low as possible.
 
 
 
  -Mark




Re: [Vo]:If LENR is successful - you may not be invited to the party

2012-02-22 Thread Alain Sepeda
if the campaign of FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt) that is running against
LENR about radiations succeed in
frightening the politicians and insurance companies, then it will be a

note that what many free market applaude as capitalism, in most of the time
crony capitalisme, like it is visible in russia after the chiagoboys job.

real capitalism is hast to implement. an indonesian advisor of sukarno (the
liberator of the country, fired by the chicagoboys, before they repeat in
chile) proposed a principle to avoid the private monopoly, yest allow good
capital sizing adapted to the different business...

capitalism small business (most effective, no risk of monopoly)
farmer cooperatives (for required investments)
big state companies (structurally monopoly whatever you think)

the economy of scale earned in big corp, is either wasted in marketing and
stock-options in private, or by loose organization in public... efficiency
is the same, conservatism too, but wealth trickle down more widely with
public organization.

anyway SMB, like in germany are more efficients to adapt , but face scaling
cost compared to big corps...
pertnership with big can help SMB to get some sizing advantage... german
and japanese business use that.

2012/2/22 pagnu...@htdconnect.com


 Tech Bubble 2.0: It's a Private Thing


 http://www.minyanville.com/businessmarkets/articles/ipo-facebook-ipo-social-media-social/2/22/2012/id/39516

 Along with private, secretive dark pool markets, investment markets
 appear to be becoming exclusive clubs.

 Hope this doesn't happen to LENR, if it can be commercialized.







Re: [Vo]:Ferromagnetic form of carbon

2012-02-22 Thread Alain Sepeda
you should read larsen slides there
http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/lattice-energy-llctechnical-overviewcarbon-seed-lenr-networkssept-3-2009
it talks of some possible LENR happening in carbon context,

page 39 the talk about the replication of a japanese researcher (Oshawa)
experiment (in 1965) with carbon electrode arking in water.
seems to be a very carefull experimentation, and contamination does not
explain the results...

few other similar experimenst described, and theory proposed

2012/2/22 Michael Foster mf...@yahoo.com

 This work is based on the assumption that there is no iron deposited in
 the carbon soot. Years ago I did a number of experiments that convinced
 me that carbon can be transmuted into iron in an electric arc. I am
 certainly not the first person to observe this, but I did extensive testing
 on the results and found unequivocally that iron is created from carbon
 under the right conditions. I'll bet these folks didn't bother to test for
 the presence of iron in their ferromagnetic carbon.

 M.

 --- On Tue, 2/21/12, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

  From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
  Subject: [Vo]:Ferromagnetic form of carbon
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 8:51 PM
  Ockham's razor at work ... (sometimes
  Ock. doesn't work; after all it is not
  a 'law' -but in the case of the putative fusion of carbon to
  iron, there is
  little doubt that it provides a close and comfortable shave;
  and 'conserves
  a few miracles' as well.
  Magnetic Soot; July 2004; Scientific American Magazine; by
  Graham P. Collins
  Recent decades have seen great interest in novel carbon
  structures such as
  buckyballs and nanotubes. In 1997 researchers in Australia
  discovered yet
  another form of carbon: a spidery, fractal-like composition
  they dubbed
  nano-foam. At this year's March meeting of the American
  Physical Society,
  the group reported that this gossamer substance is
  ferromagnetic (like
  iron), the only type of pure carbon that has that property.
  The foam's
  magnetic behavior suggests that innovative uses might be
  possible, such as
  serving as a contrast-enhancing agent in magnetic resonance
  imaging.
  Andrei V. Rode and his co-workers at the Australian National
  University in
  Canberra created carbon nano-foam when they blasted a glassy
  form of carbon
  with a series of short laser pulses in a container filled
  with inert argon
  gas. The pulses produced a plume of carbon vapor that
  settled as a thin
  layer on the vessel walls. To the naked eye, it looks like a
  conventional
  soot deposit.
  End of abstract.
 
 




Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Michele Comitini
I agree on vegetable market, or established industrial processes where
competition is high. Not for  a company that should sell an highly
needed revolutionary product the functioning of which is secret, a
black box, that has virtually no competitor.  IMHO that decisional
power is given by something more than a  customer/supplier contract.

mic

Il 23 febbraio 2012 00:02, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 in real big business customers can be the real bosses.
 they are not selling potatoes, and even a farmer that sell potatoes to
 MacDonald can be frced to
 follow some advices and prcesses to reach the client needs...

 partnership with the provider is the secret of some big industrial sucesses,
 like in germany or japan.
 and lack of respect to the subcontractor can be the secret of failure like
 with GM...


 2012/2/22 Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com

 Who is the new supplier? Ti?

 BTW I find strange that a customer has such decisional power on a
 corporate business.  Does that imply that if a bigger customer comes
 they would change their supplier?  No it probably means that the
 customer has become more a owner...


 mic


 Il 22 febbraio 2012 17:02, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
 zeropo...@charter.net ha scritto:
  RE: Rossi/NI situation…
 
  My assumption all along was that NI was helping more with
  engineering/technical *advice* on how to monitor the various parameters…
  they have extensive experience in that area.  There would be no need for
  NI
  to remain actively involved for any length of time once the
  instrumentation
  design was completed… at that point, NI might just be a supplier, but
  even
  that is unlikely since their products tend to be quite pricey, and Rossi
  wants to keep the price as low as possible.
 
 
 
  -Mark





Re: [Vo]:Wordpress mockup of LENR-CANR.org

2012-02-22 Thread Michele Comitini
Jed,

http://e-catsite.com/

Plagiarism! :-)

mic

Il 22 febbraio 2012 22:44, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's grand, but it does not actually work. It left some text on the
 screen:

 );?

 Looks like the Guy Hawkes mask so loved by Anonymous!

 T




Re: [Vo]:[JONP] About Leonardo Corp. property + end of partnership with NI

2012-02-22 Thread Harry Veeder
Either Rossi is losing control of his ecat or he is learning to collaborate.

Harry


On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Michele Comitini
michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Who is the new supplier? Ti?

 BTW I find strange that a customer has such decisional power on a
 corporate business.  Does that imply that if a bigger customer comes
 they would change their supplier?  No it probably means that the
 customer has become more a owner...


 mic


 Il 22 febbraio 2012 17:02, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
 zeropo...@charter.net ha scritto:
 RE: Rossi/NI situation…

 My assumption all along was that NI was helping more with
 engineering/technical *advice* on how to monitor the various parameters…
 they have extensive experience in that area.  There would be no need for NI
 to remain actively involved for any length of time once the instrumentation
 design was completed… at that point, NI might just be a supplier, but even
 that is unlikely since their products tend to be quite pricey, and Rossi
 wants to keep the price as low as possible.



 -Mark




Re: [Vo]:Ferromagnetic form of carbon

2012-02-22 Thread Harry Veeder
I wondered the same thing. That would be funny if this so called
ferro-magnetic carbon was actually iron.
They must have checked for the presence of iron... ???
Harry

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Michael Foster mf...@yahoo.com wrote:
 This work is based on the assumption that there is no iron deposited in the 
 carbon soot. Years ago I did a number of experiments that convinced me that 
 carbon can be transmuted into iron in an electric arc. I am certainly not the 
 first person to observe this, but I did extensive testing on the results and 
 found unequivocally that iron is created from carbon under the right 
 conditions. I'll bet these folks didn't bother to test for the presence of 
 iron in their ferromagnetic carbon.

 M.

 --- On Tue, 2/21/12, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
 Subject: [Vo]:Ferromagnetic form of carbon
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 8:51 PM
 Ockham's razor at work ... (sometimes
 Ock. doesn't work; after all it is not
 a 'law' -but in the case of the putative fusion of carbon to
 iron, there is
 little doubt that it provides a close and comfortable shave;
 and 'conserves
 a few miracles' as well.
 Magnetic Soot; July 2004; Scientific American Magazine; by
 Graham P. Collins
 Recent decades have seen great interest in novel carbon
 structures such as
 buckyballs and nanotubes. In 1997 researchers in Australia
 discovered yet
 another form of carbon: a spidery, fractal-like composition
 they dubbed
 nano-foam. At this year's March meeting of the American
 Physical Society,
 the group reported that this gossamer substance is
 ferromagnetic (like
 iron), the only type of pure carbon that has that property.
 The foam's
 magnetic behavior suggests that innovative uses might be
 possible, such as
 serving as a contrast-enhancing agent in magnetic resonance
 imaging.
 Andrei V. Rode and his co-workers at the Australian National
 University in
 Canberra created carbon nano-foam when they blasted a glassy
 form of carbon
 with a series of short laser pulses in a container filled
 with inert argon
 gas. The pulses produced a plume of carbon vapor that
 settled as a thin
 layer on the vessel walls. To the naked eye, it looks like a
 conventional
 soot deposit.
 End of abstract.






[Vo]:FTL Neutrinos a Loose Connection

2012-02-22 Thread Terry Blanton
http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2012/02/breaking-news-error-undoes-faster.html

According to sources familiar with the experiment, the 60 nanoseconds
discrepancy appears to come from a bad connection between a fiber
optic cable that connects to the GPS receiver used to correct the
timing of the neutrinos' flight and an electronic card in a computer.
After tightening the connection and then measuring the time it takes
data to travel the length of the fiber, researchers found that the
data arrive 60 nanoseconds earlier than assumed. Since this time is
subtracted from the overall time of flight, it appears to explain the
early arrival of the neutrinos. New data, however, will be needed to
confirm this hypothesis.



Re: [Vo]:FTL Neutrinos a Loose Connection

2012-02-22 Thread Robert
But in an effort to eliminate many arguments re: relativistic miscalculations 
of satellite orbits, I thought they conducted additional experiments using 
synched atomic clocks in lieu of GPS satellites.

Did the atomic clocks feed the same HSSL cards over the same fiber link?

Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:

http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2012/02/breaking-news-error-undoes-faster.html

According to sources familiar with the experiment, the 60 nanoseconds
discrepancy appears to come from a bad connection between a fiber
optic cable that connects to the GPS receiver used to correct the
timing of the neutrinos' flight and an electronic card in a computer.
After tightening the connection and then measuring the time it takes
data to travel the length of the fiber, researchers found that the
data arrive 60 nanoseconds earlier than assumed. Since this time is
subtracted from the overall time of flight, it appears to explain the
early arrival of the neutrinos. New data, however, will be needed to
confirm this hypothesis.




Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report

2012-02-22 Thread fznidarsic
I have seen so many magnet motors.  They come and go..Galteck, Takahasi, the 
Smout, Why change now?



-Original Message-
From: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report


At 09:18 AM 2/22/2012, ecat builder wrote:
Sterling Allan has posted his report on his trip to South Africa to 
see a 5kW fuel-free generator:
http://pesn.com/2012/02/22/9602042_South_African_Fuel-Free_Generator_Preparing_for_Market/
This technology is back on Sterling's #1 spot for Top 5 Exotic Technologies.

I guessed it was a failure (the radio silence and the removal from 
the top-5 list).
So ..  presuming it's not fake ... how does it work?  (I followed 
some of the earlier links) 


 


Re: [Vo]:FTL Neutrinos a Loose Connection

2012-02-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Robert robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
 But in an effort to eliminate many arguments re: relativistic miscalculations 
 of satellite orbits, I thought they conducted additional experiments using 
 synched atomic clocks in lieu of GPS satellites.

 Did the atomic clocks feed the same HSSL cards over the same fiber link?

I would think that these scientists would recognize the commonality of
the link before making such an embarrassing announcement

BTW, Happy Engineers' Week!

T



[Vo]:New site for Cold Fusion Now

2012-02-22 Thread Ruby

Cold Fusion Now has moved back home.

Check out the new digs at our old address:
http://coldfusionnow.org/

We have a web expert Wolfgang Knoerr from Berlin, Germany who has 
volunteered to join our effort, and we are real happy to have him.


It will be almost two years that we have been writing letters, holding 
outreach events, learning about the subtleties of this intersection of 
science and drama, and there was alot to Import from the old 
Wordpress.com site.


The new platform has alot of broken links, and none of the video embeds 
came through during the process.  It will be a while till its all fixed, 
and it needs some tweaking, like making the links stand out more (you 
can hardly see them) but I think it's going to be way better in the end...


What do you think? Any suggestions or comments would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Ruby




Re: [Vo]:NanoSpire Inc.

2012-02-22 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
What experiment? Am I missing something?

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:08 AM, francis froarty...@comcast.net wrote:

 If this experiment occurred in 2009 and resulted in radiation sickness and
 transmuted elements at only 840 watts in I have to ask why it is only
 becoming news now and why the news isn’t all over the front page.. what I
 am missing that makes this less than earth shattering news?



RE: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report

2012-02-22 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Frank:

Nothing I read indicates that it's a magnet motor. 

It uses a 'modified' motor, and I'm sure it has magnets or electromagnets,
but nothing indicated that it was purely a magnet motor.

Please show where you got that impression.

-Mark

 

 

From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:45 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report

 

I have seen so many magnet motors.  They come and go..Galteck, Takahasi, the
Smout, Why change now?



-Original Message-
From: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:South Africa Fuel-Free Generator Report

At 09:18 AM 2/22/2012, ecat builder wrote:
Sterling Allan has posted his report on his trip to South Africa to 
see a 5kW fuel-free generator:
http://pesn.com/2012/02/22/9602042_South_African_Fuel-Free_Generator_Prepar
ing_for_Market/
This technology is back on Sterling's #1 spot for Top 5 Exotic
Technologies.
 
I guessed it was a failure (the radio silence and the removal from 
the top-5 list).
So ..  presuming it's not fake ... how does it work?  (I followed 
some of the earlier links) 
 


Re: [Vo]:New site for Cold Fusion Now

2012-02-22 Thread Andrea Selva
we really needed a new one !
And another one for ecat? Come on guys!

2012/2/23 Ruby r...@hush.com

  Cold Fusion Now has moved back home.

 Check out the new digs at our old address:
 http://coldfusionnow.org/

 We have a web expert Wolfgang Knoerr from Berlin, Germany who has
 volunteered to join our effort, and we are real happy to have him.

 It will be almost two years that we have been writing letters, holding
 outreach events, learning about the subtleties of this intersection of
 science and drama, and there was alot to Import from the old Wordpress.com
 site.

 The new platform has alot of broken links, and none of the video embeds
 came through during the process.  It will be a while till its all fixed,
 and it needs some tweaking, like making the links stand out more (you can
 hardly see them) but I think it's going to be way better in the end...

 What do you think? Any suggestions or comments would be much appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Ruby