Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread Nigel Dyer
Triple helixes are not involved in replication.   The DNA/DNA/RNA 
version forms when RNA that is produced from the DNA then wraps itself 
around the double stranded DNA and it thne restructures itself to form a 
triple helix.


This will only happen with pure DNA if the sequences are palindromic.  
Triple helixes can form with non-palinfromid sequences if the copper 
ions bind to the triple helix at specific locations that are related to 
the sequence mismatch.


Nigel

On 24/05/2014 03:55, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

In reply to  Nigel Dyer's message of Wed, 21 May 2014 17:31:32 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]

And not just LENR.  I am currently looking at how this may occur in the
copper that is associated with DNA/DNA/RNA triple helixes

Are triple helices involved in DNA replication, and if so if the copper attached
to the end of the molecule?


Nigel

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html






RE: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker 
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

(Still not impossible, as the maximum energy you can get
from Hydrinos is 137^2
x 13.6 eV ~= 255 keV (actually precisely half an electron
mass) from each
Hydrogen atom.)

This is to full redundancy?  I think there's an effect that
is believed to decrease the likelihood of shrinkage in direct proportion
with increasingly redundancy, such that even level 1/4 is hard to get to?

Actually it was suggested early-on in the development of Mills’ theory that
once the shrinkage reached a threshold level, it would become autocatalytic
“all the way down”… which is kind of like the old aphorism for all-things
unknowable: “turtles all the way down”… and yes, equally without proof. (but
appealing in simplicity)

If we must choose between the two major non-nuclear hypothetical sources for
power density in LENR – some version of the Dirac sea (ZPE) seems to beat
out electron shrinkage by a country mile (well, at least a factor of 2) even
if both employ electrons as the mass which is to be converted. Plus the
beauty of Dirac, in the guise of “dark energy” is that it works as a “sink”
as well as a source. In fact, the Dirac sea works better for LENR as an
energy sink than as a energy source.

IOW, the “holes” in the Dirac sea are positrons in another dimension, so we
can essentially send electrons into that sink (if we find the gateway) and
retain the full mass energy value in 3-space, instead of a fraction (if
energy is conserved) and not worry about the annihilation photons at 511
keV, since that event does not happen in 3-space. This could be why the
active electron in LENR, once it goes into autocatalytic redundancy (in an
alternative to Mills theory) “keeps on going and going”… like the energizer
battery :-)

This is where things get interesting – the interplay of Nickel, LENR,
Gravity and the Dirac sea.

The idea of nickel or a nickel isotope being the gateway to the Dirac sea is
then in the forefront. In trying to find small details that point to why
nickel is (apparently) the most effective element for this transfer of
energy in LENR, more so than iron - one curious detail found in geology of
earth… which is “gravity anomalies”. This is the way geologists find nickel
deposits (and iron).

Gravity anomalies correlate well with nickel deposits, but also with iron.
Of course, the standard rationale for this is that many of these deposits
are ancient asteroid impact areas, and the source of nickel is from the
meteorite. 

Well and good, but maybe that explanation overlooks another possible
explanation, which is a bit convoluted, so bear with me.
1)  Nickel proportionality - to iron in Fe/Ni meteorites… Iron is found
in much higher ratio than on earth’s surface, tens of times higher than in
meteorites. IOW - on earth’s present day surface, iron is far more
prevalent, possibly indicating that nickel has become depleted on the
surface of earth over billions of years, except in the younger impact sites.
2)  If Ni were itself more susceptible to interaction with gravity, in
some unexplained way that is beyond its higher density, then it would have
disappeared faster from early earth, when the surface was molten. Of course,
Ni is denser to start with, and that is one major factor - but is there
something more vis-à-vis the force of gravity and two dense metals? Uranium
is dense, but there is plenty on the surface, so density alone may not be
the only determinant of surface proportionality.
3)  We only assume the interior of earth is mostly iron – when in fact
the interior could easily be mostly nickel. In fact, why not mostly nickel?
Answer: traditional belief.
4)  The actual density of earth’s core seems to be higher than either
iron or nickel, but nickel is significantly denser than iron – ergo – more
nickel could be in the core than iron.
5)  Many of the largest meteorites are over 50% nickel, yet they are
still called “iron” meteorites by tradition, since in general most of the
smaller one are higher in iron.
6)  Hydrogen interacts far differently with iron than nickel and that
could be the “other factor” beyond density.
7)  If the core of earth was mostly nickel, with dissolved hydrogen in
dense form, then the source of interior heat of earth, which is assumed to
come from uranium decay, could be coming from LENR !!

In short, geologists assume many things in nature - based on the way the
surface of earth looks now, instead of what it could have looked like
earlier. 

That argument above - is a long way to go to support a premise that nickel
could be a better “gateway” to Dirac, by being more susceptible to gravity,
in some way which goes beyond its higher density.  However, this is worth
posing as an argument wrt to nickel’s higher propensity to absorb protons
and the heat source of earth’s core.

And 

[Vo]:What Dr. Mills has been doing lately.

2014-05-24 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Lately, that irascible mad scientist we know as Dr. Mills, over at BLP, has
been plugging his company's latest RD achievements which, of course, any
inventor worth his CIHT should do. See:

 

http://www.blacklightpower.com/whats-new/

 

In regards to the latest demonstration where we see (behind a protective
shield) a lot of impressive spark-like explosions being generated from a
set-up consisting of an auger dropping small pellets of Dr. Mill's magic
energy potion between two metal wheels which compresses the mixture,
resulting in a series of ignitions, Mills claimed what we are witnessing is:


 

 H2O to H2(1/4) + 1/2O2 is more energetic than a high explosive.

 It is hard to imagine, but so many transformational technologies, now
taken for granted,

  were unexpected.

 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SocietyforClassicalPhysics/conversations
/messages/2194

 

Dr. Mills also stated:

 

 Thanks!  This is an open-air system.  We have run closed systems under
argon

 and performed regeneration on the bench multiple times by re-hydration
only.

 The fuel actually gets better since the explosion forms a very fine
nano-powder

 that is more reactive on repeat detonation.  We are expanding the
engineering 

 team and will kick off an engineering program for automated regeneration
next 

 week.  We are working with photovoltaic manufacturers on delivery a
concentrating

 PV converter package.

 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SocietyforClassicalPhysics/conversations
/messages/2190

 

 

Comments?

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson 

svjart.orionworks.com



Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread ChemE Stewart
I agree with that line of thinking.  I also think the Dirac sea is a
Stormy Sea


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 From: Eric Walker
 mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

 (Still not impossible, as the maximum energy you can get
 from Hydrinos is 137^2
 x 13.6 eV ~= 255 keV (actually precisely half an electron
 mass) from each
 Hydrogen atom.)

 This is to full redundancy?  I think there's an effect that
 is believed to decrease the likelihood of shrinkage in direct proportion
 with increasingly redundancy, such that even level 1/4 is hard to get to?

 Actually it was suggested early-on in the development of Mills’ theory that
 once the shrinkage reached a threshold level, it would become autocatalytic
 “all the way down”… which is kind of like the old aphorism for all-things
 unknowable: “turtles all the way down”… and yes, equally without proof.
 (but
 appealing in simplicity)

 If we must choose between the two major non-nuclear hypothetical sources
 for
 power density in LENR – some version of the Dirac sea (ZPE) seems to beat
 out electron shrinkage by a country mile (well, at least a factor of 2)
 even
 if both employ electrons as the mass which is to be converted. Plus the
 beauty of Dirac, in the guise of “dark energy” is that it works as a “sink”
 as well as a source. In fact, the Dirac sea works better for LENR as an
 energy sink than as a energy source.

 IOW, the “holes” in the Dirac sea are positrons in another dimension, so we
 can essentially send electrons into that sink (if we find the gateway) and
 retain the full mass energy value in 3-space, instead of a fraction (if
 energy is conserved) and not worry about the annihilation photons at 511
 keV, since that event does not happen in 3-space. This could be why the
 active electron in LENR, once it goes into autocatalytic redundancy (in an
 alternative to Mills theory) “keeps on going and going”… like the energizer
 battery :-)

 This is where things get interesting – the interplay of Nickel, LENR,
 Gravity and the Dirac sea.

 The idea of nickel or a nickel isotope being the gateway to the Dirac sea
 is
 then in the forefront. In trying to find small details that point to why
 nickel is (apparently) the most effective element for this transfer of
 energy in LENR, more so than iron - one curious detail found in geology of
 earth… which is “gravity anomalies”. This is the way geologists find nickel
 deposits (and iron).

 Gravity anomalies correlate well with nickel deposits, but also with iron.
 Of course, the standard rationale for this is that many of these deposits
 are ancient asteroid impact areas, and the source of nickel is from the
 meteorite.

 Well and good, but maybe that explanation overlooks another possible
 explanation, which is a bit convoluted, so bear with me.
 1)  Nickel proportionality - to iron in Fe/Ni meteorites… Iron is found
 in much higher ratio than on earth’s surface, tens of times higher than in
 meteorites. IOW - on earth’s present day surface, iron is far more
 prevalent, possibly indicating that nickel has become depleted on the
 surface of earth over billions of years, except in the younger impact
 sites.
 2)  If Ni were itself more susceptible to interaction with gravity, in
 some unexplained way that is beyond its higher density, then it would have
 disappeared faster from early earth, when the surface was molten. Of
 course,
 Ni is denser to start with, and that is one major factor - but is there
 something more vis-à-vis the force of gravity and two dense metals? Uranium
 is dense, but there is plenty on the surface, so density alone may not be
 the only determinant of surface proportionality.
 3)  We only assume the interior of earth is mostly iron – when in fact
 the interior could easily be mostly nickel. In fact, why not mostly nickel?
 Answer: traditional belief.
 4)  The actual density of earth’s core seems to be higher than either
 iron or nickel, but nickel is significantly denser than iron – ergo – more
 nickel could be in the core than iron.
 5)  Many of the largest meteorites are over 50% nickel, yet they are
 still called “iron” meteorites by tradition, since in general most of the
 smaller one are higher in iron.
 6)  Hydrogen interacts far differently with iron than nickel and that
 could be the “other factor” beyond density.
 7)  If the core of earth was mostly nickel, with dissolved hydrogen in
 dense form, then the source of interior heat of earth, which is assumed to
 come from uranium decay, could be coming from LENR !!

 In short, geologists assume many things in nature - based on the way the
 surface of earth looks now, instead of what it could have looked like
 earlier.

 That argument above - is a long way to go to support a premise that nickel
 could be a better “gateway” to Dirac, by being more susceptible to gravity,
 in 

Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
Nickel is a special LENR metal because it reflects near infrared light the
best of any material.


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 From: Eric Walker
 mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

 (Still not impossible, as the maximum energy you can get
 from Hydrinos is 137^2
 x 13.6 eV ~= 255 keV (actually precisely half an electron
 mass) from each
 Hydrogen atom.)

 This is to full redundancy?  I think there's an effect that
 is believed to decrease the likelihood of shrinkage in direct proportion
 with increasingly redundancy, such that even level 1/4 is hard to get to?

 Actually it was suggested early-on in the development of Mills’ theory that
 once the shrinkage reached a threshold level, it would become autocatalytic
 “all the way down”… which is kind of like the old aphorism for all-things
 unknowable: “turtles all the way down”… and yes, equally without proof.
 (but
 appealing in simplicity)

 If we must choose between the two major non-nuclear hypothetical sources
 for
 power density in LENR – some version of the Dirac sea (ZPE) seems to beat
 out electron shrinkage by a country mile (well, at least a factor of 2)
 even
 if both employ electrons as the mass which is to be converted. Plus the
 beauty of Dirac, in the guise of “dark energy” is that it works as a “sink”
 as well as a source. In fact, the Dirac sea works better for LENR as an
 energy sink than as a energy source.

 IOW, the “holes” in the Dirac sea are positrons in another dimension, so we
 can essentially send electrons into that sink (if we find the gateway) and
 retain the full mass energy value in 3-space, instead of a fraction (if
 energy is conserved) and not worry about the annihilation photons at 511
 keV, since that event does not happen in 3-space. This could be why the
 active electron in LENR, once it goes into autocatalytic redundancy (in an
 alternative to Mills theory) “keeps on going and going”… like the energizer
 battery :-)

 This is where things get interesting – the interplay of Nickel, LENR,
 Gravity and the Dirac sea.

 The idea of nickel or a nickel isotope being the gateway to the Dirac sea
 is
 then in the forefront. In trying to find small details that point to why
 nickel is (apparently) the most effective element for this transfer of
 energy in LENR, more so than iron - one curious detail found in geology of
 earth… which is “gravity anomalies”. This is the way geologists find nickel
 deposits (and iron).

 Gravity anomalies correlate well with nickel deposits, but also with iron.
 Of course, the standard rationale for this is that many of these deposits
 are ancient asteroid impact areas, and the source of nickel is from the
 meteorite.

 Well and good, but maybe that explanation overlooks another possible
 explanation, which is a bit convoluted, so bear with me.
 1)  Nickel proportionality - to iron in Fe/Ni meteorites… Iron is found
 in much higher ratio than on earth’s surface, tens of times higher than in
 meteorites. IOW - on earth’s present day surface, iron is far more
 prevalent, possibly indicating that nickel has become depleted on the
 surface of earth over billions of years, except in the younger impact
 sites.
 2)  If Ni were itself more susceptible to interaction with gravity, in
 some unexplained way that is beyond its higher density, then it would have
 disappeared faster from early earth, when the surface was molten. Of
 course,
 Ni is denser to start with, and that is one major factor - but is there
 something more vis-à-vis the force of gravity and two dense metals? Uranium
 is dense, but there is plenty on the surface, so density alone may not be
 the only determinant of surface proportionality.
 3)  We only assume the interior of earth is mostly iron – when in fact
 the interior could easily be mostly nickel. In fact, why not mostly nickel?
 Answer: traditional belief.
 4)  The actual density of earth’s core seems to be higher than either
 iron or nickel, but nickel is significantly denser than iron – ergo – more
 nickel could be in the core than iron.
 5)  Many of the largest meteorites are over 50% nickel, yet they are
 still called “iron” meteorites by tradition, since in general most of the
 smaller one are higher in iron.
 6)  Hydrogen interacts far differently with iron than nickel and that
 could be the “other factor” beyond density.
 7)  If the core of earth was mostly nickel, with dissolved hydrogen in
 dense form, then the source of interior heat of earth, which is assumed to
 come from uranium decay, could be coming from LENR !!

 In short, geologists assume many things in nature - based on the way the
 surface of earth looks now, instead of what it could have looked like
 earlier.

 That argument above - is a long way to go to support a premise that nickel
 could be a better “gateway” to Dirac, by being more susceptible to 

[Vo]:The coldest nucleus in nature as a gateway

2014-05-24 Thread Jones Beene
In nature, the coldest nucleus could be defined as the most
energy-depleted. Which is the same way of saying - highest binding energy
per nucleon. The dividing line, or the interface, between positive energy
and negative energy will be cold, relative to its surroundings.

Nickel-62 is the coldest nucleus in nature - an isotope having 28 protons
and 34 neutrons - with the highest binding energy per nucleon (8.8 MeV).

It is often stated (wrongly) that iron-56 is the most stable nucleus, but
actually 56Fe only has the lowest mass per nucleon (not binding energy per
nucleon). This misconception probably originated from astrophysics, since
those guys pay less attention to the little picture than to the big picture.

OKAY - so what? 

Did I mention that the dividing line between positive energy and negative
energy will probably be cold; and consequently a good choice for  gateway
into an energy sink will likewise be very cold relative to surroundings.
This gives two prime choices, and one of them, nickel, has proton affinity -
which the other lacks ... and in fact iron becomes embrittled on proton
exposure whereas nickel absorbs.

Jones

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Re: [Vo]:The coldest nucleus in nature as a gateway

2014-05-24 Thread ChemE Stewart
Personally, I think that is why our cold fronts in nature, which release
the most energy during storms, are really just expansion/inflation of the
vacuum and can create a hell of a lot of water as oxygen is ionized and
combines with hydrogen.

600 x Hiroshima bomb released in 30 minutes from the Moore, OK tornado

I believe this is the Final phase of inflation from our quantum vacuum
gravity field and why the Earth is 75% water

Stewart

On Saturday, May 24, 2014, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 In nature, the coldest nucleus could be defined as the most
 energy-depleted. Which is the same way of saying - highest binding energy
 per nucleon. The dividing line, or the interface, between positive energy
 and negative energy will be cold, relative to its surroundings.

 Nickel-62 is the coldest nucleus in nature - an isotope having 28 protons
 and 34 neutrons - with the highest binding energy per nucleon (8.8 MeV).

 It is often stated (wrongly) that iron-56 is the most stable nucleus, but
 actually 56Fe only has the lowest mass per nucleon (not binding energy per
 nucleon). This misconception probably originated from astrophysics, since
 those guys pay less attention to the little picture than to the big
 picture.

 OKAY - so what?

 Did I mention that the dividing line between positive energy and negative
 energy will probably be cold; and consequently a good choice for  gateway
 into an energy sink will likewise be very cold relative to surroundings.
 This gives two prime choices, and one of them, nickel, has proton affinity
 -
 which the other lacks ... and in fact iron becomes embrittled on proton
 exposure whereas nickel absorbs.

 Jones




Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

If we must choose between the two major non-nuclear hypothetical sources for
 power density in LENR – some version of the Dirac sea (ZPE) seems to beat
 out electron shrinkage by a country mile ...


I rather like the imagery of something coming out of the Dirac sea, which
reminds me of the sci-fi stories and movies of my youth.  As far as my
acquaintance with the corpus of modern scientific literature goes, anything
that is based on virtual particles becoming real particles sounds a lot to
my mind like *ex nihilo aliquid fit*.  There's always an energy balance
problem to be dealt with or explained away.

I guess the needed energy could come from dark energy or dark matter.
 Physicists leave themselves open to speculation on the possibility of that
stuff being converted into real matter and energy by taking the dark forms
seriously in the first place.  I have no strong opinion on the question,
although at first glance they give the impression of being a Rube
Goldberg-like consequence that is needed to save some broken prior
assumptions.

Eric


RE: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker 

If we must choose between the two major non-nuclear
hypothetical sources for
power density in LENR – some version of the Dirac sea (ZPE)
seems to beat
out electron shrinkage by a country mile ...

I rather like the imagery of something coming out of the
Dirac sea, which reminds me of the sci-fi stories and movies of my youth… I
guess the needed energy could come from dark energy or dark matter.  

Well, if the Dirac dimension is acting as a sink instead of source – then
energy is not exactly coming out. The semantics are difficult (like
multiplying two negatives to get a positive). CoE states that energy cannot
be created or destroyed; but can be changed from one form to another
(mass-to-energy which implies negative-mass to negative-energy). However,
that strange situation leaves open the gate for non-nuclear matter
(electrons, for example) to be depleted of mass-energy in our 3-space while
the transaction is balanced by negative energy being reduced in an adjoining
dimension. Two negatives giving a positive – yet does anything really
transfer? 

Physicists leave themselves open to speculation on the
possibility of that stuff being converted into real matter and energy by
taking the dark forms seriously in the first place… they give the impression
of being a Rube Goldberg-like consequence that is needed to save some broken
prior assumptions.

Today’s unexplained crude oddity is tomorrow’s stroke of genius. You
remember Rossi’s first reactor, right? You can see better craftsmanship in
introductory high school “shop” classes. However, the first cyclotron of EO
Lawrence was not much better – held together with wax and string. Sometimes
Rube wins the jackpot.

The big difference is that Lawrence understood what he was doing
theoretically and Rossi does not. Yet AR has been apparently able to get
E-Cat to function most of the time. Luck plays a role, but perseverance and
learning-from-mistakes plays a bigger role.

I just hope that we (the long-time followers of LENR) will get enough real
information to provide the answers and insight that AR may be unable to
provide by himself. He can have the glory, and the megabucks, which he
deserves - but there are some of us who only want to know “why.”

Jones




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Re: [Vo]:What Dr. Mills has been doing lately.

2014-05-24 Thread Lennart Thornros
I looked on the videos. Does not say much except the last one where BLP
accept an award for being a potentially explosive company. The sparks seems
fun but the award is impressive. They are doing / having contact with the
real world.

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros

www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899
6140 Horseshoe Bar Road Suite G, Loomis CA 95650

“Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment
to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:

  Lately, that irascible mad scientist we know as Dr. Mills, over at BLP,
 has been plugging his company's latest RD achievements which, of course,
 any inventor worth his CIHT should do. See:



 http://www.blacklightpower.com/whats-new/



 In regards to the latest demonstration where we see (behind a protective
 shield) a lot of impressive spark-like explosions being generated from a
 set-up consisting of an auger dropping small pellets of Dr. Mill's magic
 energy potion between two metal wheels which compresses the mixture,
 resulting in a series of ignitions, Mills claimed what we are witnessing
 is:



  H2O to H2(1/4) + 1/2O2 is more energetic than a high explosive.

  It is hard to imagine, but so many transformational technologies, now
 taken for granted,

   were unexpected.




 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SocietyforClassicalPhysics/conversations/messages/2194



 Dr. Mills also stated:



  Thanks!  This is an open-air system.  We have run closed systems under
 argon

  and performed regeneration on the bench multiple times by re-hydration
 only.

  The fuel actually gets better since the explosion forms a very fine
 nano-powder

  that is more reactive on repeat detonation.  We are expanding the
 engineering

  team and will kick off an engineering program for automated regeneration
 next

  week.  We are working with photovoltaic manufacturers on delivery a
 concentrating

  PV converter package.




 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/SocietyforClassicalPhysics/conversations/messages/2190





 Comments?



 Regards,

 Steven Vincent Johnson

 svjart.orionworks.com



Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jones, I like your thinking about that some people wants glory and
megabucks while others just want to know why. I like the generous
attitude and I think that AR should make liaisons with people who mostly
wants to know why in as many ways as possible.The secrecy and the
misleading maneuvers do not benefit anyone or the LENR field as a whole. I
am sure that with just an ounce of creativity it is possible to create
alternatives to secrecy. A hint-  it is not patents.

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros

www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899
6140 Horseshoe Bar Road Suite G, Loomis CA 95650

“Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment
to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 From: Eric Walker

 If we must choose between the two major non-nuclear
 hypothetical sources for
 power density in LENR – some version of the Dirac sea (ZPE)
 seems to beat
 out electron shrinkage by a country mile ...

 I rather like the imagery of something coming out of the
 Dirac sea, which reminds me of the sci-fi stories and movies of my youth… I
 guess the needed energy could come from dark energy or dark matter.

 Well, if the Dirac dimension is acting as a sink instead of source – then
 energy is not exactly coming out. The semantics are difficult (like
 multiplying two negatives to get a positive). CoE states that energy cannot
 be created or destroyed; but can be changed from one form to another
 (mass-to-energy which implies negative-mass to negative-energy). However,
 that strange situation leaves open the gate for non-nuclear matter
 (electrons, for example) to be depleted of mass-energy in our 3-space while
 the transaction is balanced by negative energy being reduced in an
 adjoining
 dimension. Two negatives giving a positive – yet does anything really
 transfer?

 Physicists leave themselves open to speculation on the
 possibility of that stuff being converted into real matter and energy by
 taking the dark forms seriously in the first place… they give the
 impression
 of being a Rube Goldberg-like consequence that is needed to save some
 broken
 prior assumptions.

 Today’s unexplained crude oddity is tomorrow’s stroke of genius. You
 remember Rossi’s first reactor, right? You can see better craftsmanship in
 introductory high school “shop” classes. However, the first cyclotron of EO
 Lawrence was not much better – held together with wax and string. Sometimes
 Rube wins the jackpot.

 The big difference is that Lawrence understood what he was doing
 theoretically and Rossi does not. Yet AR has been apparently able to get
 E-Cat to function most of the time. Luck plays a role, but perseverance and
 learning-from-mistakes plays a bigger role.

 I just hope that we (the long-time followers of LENR) will get enough real
 information to provide the answers and insight that AR may be unable to
 provide by himself. He can have the glory, and the megabucks, which he
 deserves - but there are some of us who only want to know “why.”

 Jones







Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread mixent
In reply to  Eric Walker's message of Fri, 23 May 2014 20:57:54 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:52 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

(Still not impossible, as the maximum energy you can get from Hydrinos is
 137^2
 x 13.6 eV ~= 255 keV (actually precisely half an electron mass) from each
 Hydrogen atom.)


This is to full redundancy?  

yes.

I think there's an effect that is believed to
decrease the likelihood of shrinkage in direct proportion with increasingly
redundancy, such that even level 1/4 is hard to get to?

Mills claims that the deeper you go the higher the multipolarity of the
radiation required to be created, making it ever more unlikely. This is the
reason he gives why he keeps on finding H[n=1/4].

I have another reason:- If you look at Hydrinohydride formation, the formula
Mills provides for the formation energy of the Hydride gives a maximum p value
of 24. Beyond that the formation energy is positive, IOW it doesn't form.
The maximum is at p=16.

Now if you assume that the radius goes as the inverse square of p rather than
inversely linear with p then you find that then Mills p=16 has the same radius
as p=4, and p=5 would equate to Mills p=25, which is unbound. In short if the
radius goes as the square of p, then the smallest Hydrinohydride occurs for p=4,
which could go a long way toward explaining why p=4 keeps on cropping up in
Mills' experiments.

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Robin van Spaandonk

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Re: [Vo]:Cyril Smith Paper may have relevance to LENR

2014-05-24 Thread mixent
In reply to  Nigel Dyer's message of Sat, 24 May 2014 15:04:02 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
Triple helixes are not involved in replication.   The DNA/DNA/RNA 
version forms when RNA that is produced from the DNA then wraps itself 
around the double stranded DNA and it thne restructures itself to form a 
triple helix.

What role does the triple helix play in nature, or is this merely a lab
curiosity?
[snip]
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Robin van Spaandonk

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[Vo]:Solar Roadways

2014-05-24 Thread H Veeder
Solar Roadways
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNMFKKyFU60#t=53

Harry