[Vo]:Re: a special issue of EGO OUT
Frank-- What do you mean by the comment that spin orbit magnetic field ”is not of electromagnetic origin?” I think that the spin orbit field is an intrinsic property of a coherent QM system much like spin and magnetic moments are intrinsic properties of particles and nuclei. Bob From: Frank Znidarsic Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:24 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT How does the magnetic field produce heat? The spin orbit magnetic field (not of electromagnetic origin) can, when modified, mediate nuclear reactions at a greater range than the Coulombic force. Frank Z -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 6:02 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT How does the magnetic field produce heat? On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com wrote: It in the amplitude of the thermal vibrations,. LENR must involve a positive feedback loop in order to achive over unity. If magnetic fields are involved, the positive feed back must be magnetic in nature. Nuclear binding energy is converted to magnetic energy in a gainful positive feedback loop. Please explain how you beleive this might work. -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 5:39 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT LENR must involve a positive feedback loop in order to achive over unity. If magnetic fields are involved, the positive feed back must be magnetic in nature. Nuclear binding energy is converted to magnetic energy in a gainful positive feedback loop. Please explain how you beleive this might work. On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Even if we accept the theoretical possibility that collective nuclear reactions can take place (by an totally unknown physical mechanism) it is absolutely necessary that the conservation laws should be respected- conservation of energy, barions, leptons, and of electric charge. It was worked out a computerized model that has immediately shown that there is no solution for the nuclear processes based on weak nuclear interactions as beta decay and K-capture, that is transition from a neutron to a proton and conversely because such combinations cannot satisfy the above shown requirements. Good, lets also dump the funkey hydrinos, either vortexes, atomic cracks, and Casimer cavities. There is another force at work in the nucleus. Its the magnetic component of the strong nuclear force. It called the spin orbit force. It is NOT of electromagnetic origin. So lets not go there--again. It like the (electrical) magnetic component is not conserved. It is boundless under the right conditions. Soft iron increases the magnetic field by the factor of 10,000. I believe the vibrating Bose condensate does the same for for the spin orbit force. The freq of vibration depends of size. It is 1,094,000 hetrz-meters. thanks Peter. Frank Znidarsic
Re: [Vo]:Re: a special issue of EGO OUT
Yes there is an electromagnetic moment. It is caused by the change in electromagnetic field (dq/dt). There is a strong nuclear, magnetic moment. It is caused by a change in the strong force (ds/dt). This strong nuclear magnetic force is called the Spin Orbit Force. -Original Message- From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2015 11:00 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: a special issue of EGO OUT Frank-- What do you mean by the comment that spin orbit magnetic field ”is not of electromagnetic origin?” I think that the spin orbit field is an intrinsic property of a coherent QM system much like spin and magnetic moments are intrinsic properties of particles and nuclei. Bob From:Frank Znidarsic Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:24 PM To:vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT How does the magnetic field produce heat? The spin orbit magnetic field (not of electromagnetic origin) can, when modified, mediate nuclear reactions at a greater range than the Coulombic force. Frank Z -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 6:02 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT How does the magnetic field produce heat? On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com wrote: It in the amplitude of the thermal vibrations,. LENR must involve a positive feedback loop in order to achive over unity. If magnetic fields are involved, the positive feed back must be magnetic in nature. Nuclear binding energy is converted to magnetic energy in a gainful positive feedback loop. Please explain how you beleive this might work. -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 5:39 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT LENR must involve a positive feedback loop in order to achive over unity. If magnetic fields are involved, the positive feed back must be magnetic in nature. Nuclear binding energy is converted to magnetic energy in a gainful positive feedback loop. Please explain how you beleive this might work. On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Even if we accept the theoretical possibility that collective nuclear reactions can take place (by an totally unknown physical mechanism) it is absolutely necessary that the conservation laws should be respected- conservation of energy, barions, leptons, and of electric charge. It was worked out a computerized model that has immediately shown that there is no solution for the nuclear processes based on weak nuclear interactions as beta decay and K-capture, that is transition from a neutron to a proton and conversely because such combinations cannot satisfy the above shown requirements. Good, lets also dump the funkey hydrinos, either vortexes, atomic cracks, and Casimer cavities. There is another force at work in the nucleus. Its the magnetic component of the strong nuclear force. It called the spin orbit force. It is NOT of electromagnetic origin. So lets not go there--again. It like the (electrical) magnetic component is not conserved. It is boundless under the right conditions. Soft iron increases the magnetic field by the factor of 10,000. I believe the vibrating Bose condensate does the same for for the spin orbit force. The freq of vibration depends of size. It is 1,094,000 hetrz-meters. thanks Peter.
Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Mark, I understand and I agree with you. Nature thrives around a balance, any chronic source of upset/pollution, be it chemical or electromagnetic, can throw that out of balance. A little poison is good for you... When I first started mapping wildlife disease two years ago, I mapped chronic wasting disease (CWD) in deer near radar stations (all of the maps are on my blog) with a link on my menu. A university PhD candidate emailed me and told me that chronic wasting disease is a possibly a type of Protein/Prion disease http://www.cwd-info.org/index.php/fuseaction/about.main Infectious agents of CWD are neither bacteria nor viruses, but are hypothesized to be prions. Prions are infectious proteins without associated nucleic acids. http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/prion-disease. I love my radiation devices but do they love us? Hopefully everyone learned something about radars yesterday... Stewart On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:58 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Since I was the one who initiated this thread, I feel responsible to clear things up… calm down and take a deep breath! Dave and Stewart, you two have completely missed the point, and Dave, it is clear that you have not read my original post, nor any of the references. Let me also say that I may be a bit of an odd-man-out in the Vort Collective since I have degrees in both Biology and ComputerSci, and it is understandable how someone without the biology background might miss the main point I was trying to make. Please read the following points carefully: 1. the PRF (pulse-repetition-frequency) is NOT the issue or possible ‘cause’ I was referring to in my original post. 2. the references in my post show that protein reactivity CAN BE AFFECTED by THz EM waves IN SOLUTION, causing significant changes to ‘normal’ biochemical processes. Since PROPER protein interactions are ESSENTIAL to living organisms, and exposure to even very low levels can cause this disruption of biochemical processes, it could lead to deleterious effects to the organism. Here is the title to one of the refs which states it very succinctly: “Terahertz underdamped vibrational motion governs protein-ligand binding in solution” Let me provide some explanation as to the significance of the wording in this title: - why ‘underdamped’, and ‘in solution’? Interaction of NON-ionizing EM waves with biological tissue/processes has always been thought to be HIGHLY DAMPED due to the high (salt) water content of biological tissues, thus, not likely to cause much interaction with physical elements (i.e., living cells and various molecules). And this is probably the case for the vast majority of EM frequencies. However, it now appears that protein conformation (physical folding 3D shape) has evolved to be in a state of near criticality which is key to the proteins ability to interact with very specific other proteins or molecules. The underdamped vibrations which the Thz waves cause in the protein, or subunits of the protein, although only lasting picoseconds, are enough to trigger the conformational change BEFORE the protein has a chance to interact with its target protein/molecule. If this is allowed to happen on a continuous basis, it could have very deleterious effects on the health of the organism. 3. If even a minute amount of EM power at very high frequencies makes it to the depth of the coral-building organisms, there is a possibility that it would disrupt some aspect of their biochemical processes, leading to their decline/death. If the radars were only on for a few mins/hours a day, the organisms could probably recover, but when hit with it 24/7/365, their systems eventually degrade causing death. This is a **reasonable** scenario given this new knowledge about how EM can affect protein interactions. Is it the cause of coral and other sea-life deaths??? I don’t know, but wanted to pass it along… 4. Although one of the references was referring to Thz freq’s, it would be reasonable to assume that Ghz or lower freqs might also cause similar disruption to biochemical processes. In looking at this thread, the fact that it got sidetracked is probably because most of my original text was deleted early on and Dave did not go back to read it… -Mark Iverson
[Vo]:the second part of the Urutskoev letter is relevant for LENR
Today's issue, quite rich for the stale season: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/07/non-conformist-ideas-about-lenr-info-on.html Can somebody demonstrate beyond any doubt thta the D+D=He channel really, and always works- if there is excess heat in Pd D? But what about NiH? Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Fwd: [Vo]:Re: a special issue of EGO OUT
Yes there is an electromagnetic moment. It is caused by the change in electromagnetic field (dq/dt). There is a strong nuclear, magnetic moment. It is caused by a change in the strong force (ds/dt). This strong nuclear magnetic force is called the Spin Orbit Force. PS There is also a magnetic component of the gravitational field. It is called a gravitomagnetic field. Its is very weak and caused by the movement of matter (dm/dt) -Original Message- From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2015 11:00 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: a special issue of EGO OUT Frank-- What do you mean by the comment that spin orbit magnetic field ”is not of electromagnetic origin?” I think that the spin orbit field is an intrinsic property of a coherent QM system much like spin and magnetic moments are intrinsic properties of particles and nuclei. Bob From: Frank Znidarsic Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:24 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT How does the magnetic field produce heat? The spin orbit magnetic field (not of electromagnetic origin) can, when modified, mediate nuclear reactions at a greater range than the Coulombic force. Frank Z -Original Message- From: Axil Axiljanap...@gmail.com To: vortex-lvortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 6:02 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT How does the magnetic field produce heat? On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com wrote: It in the amplitude of the thermal vibrations,. LENR must involve a positive feedback loop in order to achive over unity. If magnetic fields are involved, the positive feed back must be magnetic in nature. Nuclear binding energy is converted to magnetic energy in a gainful positive feedback loop. Please explain how you beleive this might work. -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 5:39 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT LENR must involve a positive feedback loop in order to achive over unity. If magnetic fields are involved, the positive feed back must be magnetic in nature. Nuclear binding energy is converted to magnetic energy in a gainful positive feedback loop. Please explain how you beleive this might work. On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Even if we accept the theoretical possibility that collective nuclear reactions can take place (by an totally unknown physical mechanism) it is absolutely necessary that the conservation laws should be respected- conservation of energy, barions, leptons, and of electric charge. It was worked out a computerized model that has immediately shown that there is no solution for the nuclear processes based on weak nuclear interactions as beta decay and K-capture, that is transition from a neutron to a proton and conversely because such combinations cannot satisfy the above shown requirements. Good, lets also dump the funkey hydrinos, either vortexes, atomic cracks, and Casimer cavities. There is another force at work in the nucleus. Its the magnetic component of the strong nuclear force. It called the spin orbit force. It is NOT of
Re: [Vo]:Re: a special issue of EGO OUT
I wrote something up about this about 15 years ago. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapter6.html -Original Message- From: Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2015 12:38 pm Subject: Fwd: [Vo]:Re: a special issue of EGO OUT Yes there is an electromagnetic moment. It is caused by the change in electromagnetic field (dq/dt). There is a strong nuclear, magnetic moment. It is caused by a change in the strong force (ds/dt). This strong nuclear magnetic force is called the Spin Orbit Force. PS There is also a magnetic component of the gravitational field. It is called a gravitomagnetic field. Its is very weak and caused by the movement of matter (dm/dt) -Original Message- From: Bob Cookfrobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-lvortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2015 11:00 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: a special issue of EGO OUT Frank-- What do you mean by the comment that spin orbit magnetic field ”is not of electromagnetic origin?” I think that the spin orbit field is an intrinsic property of a coherent QM system much like spin and magnetic moments are intrinsic properties of particles and nuclei. Bob From:Frank Znidarsic Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:24 PM To:vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT How does the magnetic field produce heat? The spin orbit magnetic field (not of electromagnetic origin) can, when modified, mediate nuclear reactions at a greater range than the Coulombic force. Frank Z -Original Message- From: Axil Axiljanap...@gmail.com To: vortex-lvortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 6:02 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT How does the magnetic field produce heat? On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com wrote: It in the amplitude of the thermal vibrations,. LENR must involve a positive feedback loop in order to achive over unity. If magnetic fields are involved, the positive feed back must be magnetic in nature. Nuclear binding energy is converted to magnetic energy in a gainful positive feedback loop. Please explain how you beleive this might work. -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 5:39 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:a special issue of EGO OUT LENR must involve a positive feedback loop in order to achive over unity. If magnetic fields are involved, the positive feed back must be magnetic in nature. Nuclear binding energy is converted to magnetic energy in a gainful positive feedback loop. Please explain how you beleive this might work. On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Even if we accept the theoretical possibility that collective nuclear reactions can take place (by an totally unknown physical mechanism) it is absolutely necessary that the conservation laws should be respected- conservation of energy, barions, leptons, and of electric charge. It was worked out a computerized model that has immediately shown that there is no solution for the nuclear processes
[Vo]:Thermal Resonance Fusion
Vorteceans - Looks really exciting:
We first show a possible mechanism to create a new type of nuclear fusion,
thermal resonance fusion, i.e. low energy nuclear fusion with thermal
resonance of light nuclei or atoms, such as deuterium or tritium. The
fusion of two light nuclei has to overcome the Coulomb barrier between
these two nuclei to reach up to the interacting region of nuclear force. We
found nuclear fusion could be realized with thermal vibrations of crystal
lattice atoms coupling with light atoms at low energy by resonance to
overcome this Coulomb barrier. Thermal resonances combining with tunnel
effects can greatly enhance the probability of the deuterium fusion to the
detectable level. Our low energy nuclear fusion mechanism research -
thermal resonance fusion mechanism results demonstrate how these light
nuclei or atoms, such as deuterium, can be fused in the crystal of metal,
such as Ni or alloy, with synthetic thermal vibrations and resonances at
different modes and energies experimentally. The probability of tunnel
effect at different resonance energy given by the WKB method is shown that
indicates the thermal resonance fusion mode, especially combined with the
tunnel effect, is possible and feasible. But the penetrating probability
decreases very sharply when the input resonance energy decreases less than
3 keV, so for thermal resonance fusion, the key point is to increase the
resonance peak or make the resonance sharp enough to the acceptable energy
level by the suitable compound catalysts, and it is better to reach up more
than 3 keV to make the penetrating probability larger than 10^{-10}.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1507.01650
[Vo]:Re: Thermal Resonance Fusion
I love the references, lol:
[1] Wikipedia, Nuclear Fusion, (http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclearf
usion), 17 March 2015.
[2] Wikipedia, Cold Fusion, (http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coldf usion),
25 September 2014.
..
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
wrote:
Vorteceans - Looks really exciting:
We first show a possible mechanism to create a new type of nuclear fusion,
thermal resonance fusion, i.e. low energy nuclear fusion with thermal
resonance of light nuclei or atoms, such as deuterium or tritium. The
fusion of two light nuclei has to overcome the Coulomb barrier between
these two nuclei to reach up to the interacting region of nuclear force. We
found nuclear fusion could be realized with thermal vibrations of crystal
lattice atoms coupling with light atoms at low energy by resonance to
overcome this Coulomb barrier. Thermal resonances combining with tunnel
effects can greatly enhance the probability of the deuterium fusion to the
detectable level. Our low energy nuclear fusion mechanism research -
thermal resonance fusion mechanism results demonstrate how these light
nuclei or atoms, such as deuterium, can be fused in the crystal of metal,
such as Ni or alloy, with synthetic thermal vibrations and resonances at
different modes and energies experimentally. The probability of tunnel
effect at different resonance energy given by the WKB method is shown that
indicates the thermal resonance fusion mode, especially combined with the
tunnel effect, is possible and feasible. But the penetrating probability
decreases very sharply when the input resonance energy decreases less than
3 keV, so for thermal resonance fusion, the key point is to increase the
resonance peak or make the resonance sharp enough to the acceptable energy
level by the suitable compound catalysts, and it is better to reach up more
than 3 keV to make the penetrating probability larger than 10^{-10}.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1507.01650
RE: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Since I was the one who initiated this thread, I feel responsible to clear things up… calm down and take a deep breath! Dave and Stewart, you two have completely missed the point, and Dave, it is clear that you have not read my original post, nor any of the references. Let me also say that I may be a bit of an odd-man-out in the Vort Collective since I have degrees in both Biology and ComputerSci, and it is understandable how someone without the biology background might miss the main point I was trying to make. Please read the following points carefully: 1. the PRF (pulse-repetition-frequency) is NOT the issue or possible ‘cause’ I was referring to in my original post. 2. the references in my post show that protein reactivity CAN BE AFFECTED by THz EM waves IN SOLUTION, causing significant changes to ‘normal’ biochemical processes. Since PROPER protein interactions are ESSENTIAL to living organisms, and exposure to even very low levels can cause this disruption of biochemical processes, it could lead to deleterious effects to the organism. Here is the title to one of the refs which states it very succinctly: “Terahertz underdamped vibrational motion governs protein-ligand binding in solution” Let me provide some explanation as to the significance of the wording in this title: - why ‘underdamped’, and ‘in solution’? Interaction of NON-ionizing EM waves with biological tissue/processes has always been thought to be HIGHLY DAMPED due to the high (salt) water content of biological tissues, thus, not likely to cause much interaction with physical elements (i.e., living cells and various molecules). And this is probably the case for the vast majority of EM frequencies. However, it now appears that protein conformation (physical folding 3D shape) has evolved to be in a state of near criticality which is key to the proteins ability to interact with very specific other proteins or molecules. The underdamped vibrations which the Thz waves cause in the protein, or subunits of the protein, although only lasting picoseconds, are enough to trigger the conformational change BEFORE the protein has a chance to interact with its target protein/molecule. If this is allowed to happen on a continuous basis, it could have very deleterious effects on the health of the organism. 3. If even a minute amount of EM power at very high frequencies makes it to the depth of the coral-building organisms, there is a possibility that it would disrupt some aspect of their biochemical processes, leading to their decline/death. If the radars were only on for a few mins/hours a day, the organisms could probably recover, but when hit with it 24/7/365, their systems eventually degrade causing death. This is a *reasonable* scenario given this new knowledge about how EM can affect protein interactions. Is it the cause of coral and other sea-life deaths??? I don’t know, but wanted to pass it along… 4. Although one of the references was referring to Thz freq’s, it would be reasonable to assume that Ghz or lower freqs might also cause similar disruption to biochemical processes. In looking at this thread, the fact that it got sidetracked is probably because most of my original text was deleted early on and Dave did not go back to read it… -Mark Iverson
[Vo]:Re: Thermal Resonance Fusion
I am seeing some critique of this on e-catworld but nobody is saying why it
has to be more complicated than this. Agreed, getting the thermal
resonance might be hard to do, but why can't that just be all that's
required to achieve tunneling? This is by far the most compelling concept
I've read on this.
Interesting to see someone at the Department of Nuclear Physics, China
Institute of Atomic Energy making the assumption (without references!) that
LENR is occurring.
Actually, low energy D fusion catalyzed by nickel can be investigated and
con- firmed experimentally
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
wrote:
I love the references, lol:
[1] Wikipedia, Nuclear Fusion, (http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclearf
usion), 17 March 2015.
[2] Wikipedia, Cold Fusion, (http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coldf usion),
25 September 2014.
..
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
wrote:
Vorteceans - Looks really exciting:
We first show a possible mechanism to create a new type of nuclear
fusion, thermal resonance fusion, i.e. low energy nuclear fusion with
thermal resonance of light nuclei or atoms, such as deuterium or tritium.
The fusion of two light nuclei has to overcome the Coulomb barrier between
these two nuclei to reach up to the interacting region of nuclear force. We
found nuclear fusion could be realized with thermal vibrations of crystal
lattice atoms coupling with light atoms at low energy by resonance to
overcome this Coulomb barrier. Thermal resonances combining with tunnel
effects can greatly enhance the probability of the deuterium fusion to the
detectable level. Our low energy nuclear fusion mechanism research -
thermal resonance fusion mechanism results demonstrate how these light
nuclei or atoms, such as deuterium, can be fused in the crystal of metal,
such as Ni or alloy, with synthetic thermal vibrations and resonances at
different modes and energies experimentally. The probability of tunnel
effect at different resonance energy given by the WKB method is shown that
indicates the thermal resonance fusion mode, especially combined with the
tunnel effect, is possible and feasible. But the penetrating probability
decreases very sharply when the input resonance energy decreases less than
3 keV, so for thermal resonance fusion, the key point is to increase the
resonance peak or make the resonance sharp enough to the acceptable energy
level by the suitable compound catalysts, and it is better to reach up more
than 3 keV to make the penetrating probability larger than 10^{-10}.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1507.01650
Re: [Vo]:LENR-forum: Claytor generates increased tritium with Brillouin technique
Beautiful work. I've always admired Claytor's work and I think it easily demonstrates to the lay physicist that there are low level physical conditions were fusion is demonstrable. Think asteroid or comet hitting Jupiter, it could be causing a fusion trail as it sinks into the charged high pressured atmosphere. Metallic meteors might give some tritium signatures when they fall into the jovian atmosphere. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: See: http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/1814-New-Brillouin-Energy-USPTO-patent-application/?postID=6013#post6013 Brillouin Energy has just announced in the forum that Tom Claytor of Los Alamos National Labs did his own first principles test of the hypothesis [...and...] Was able to reliably generate tritium 12 out of 12 times using this method[...]! *TRITIUM PRODUCTION FROM A LOW VOLTAGE DEUTERIUM DISCHARGE ON PALLADIUM AND OTHER METALS * *T. N. Claytor, D. D. Jackson and D. G. Tuggle Los Alamos National Laboratory Los Alamos, NM 87545 * ABSTRACT Over the past year we have been able to demonstrate that a plasma loading method produces an exciting and unexpected amount of tritium from small palladium wires. In contrast to electrochemical hydrogen or deuterium loading of palladium, this method yields a reproducible tritium generation rate when various electrical and physical conditions are met. Small diameter wires (100 - 250 microns) have been used with gas pressures above 200 torr at voltages and currents of about 2000 V at 3-5 A. By carefully controlling the sputtering rate of the wire, runs have been extended to hundreds of hours allowing a significant amount ( 10’s nCi) of tritium to accumulate. We will show tritium generation rates for deuterium-palladium foreground runs that are up to 25 times larger than hydrogen-palladium control experiments using materials from the same batch. We will illustrate the difference between batches of annealed palladium and as received palladium from several batches as well as the effect of other metals (Pt, Ni, Nb, Zr, V, W, Hf) to demonstrate that the tritium generation rate can vary greatly from batch to batch.
[Vo]:LENR-forum: Claytor generates increased tritium with Brillouin technique
See: http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/1814-New-Brillouin-Energy-USPTO-patent-application/?postID=6013#post6013 Brillouin Energy has just announced in the forum that Tom Claytor of Los Alamos National Labs did his own first principles test of the hypothesis [...and...] Was able to reliably generate tritium 12 out of 12 times using this method[...]! *TRITIUM PRODUCTION FROM A LOW VOLTAGE DEUTERIUM DISCHARGE ON PALLADIUM AND OTHER METALS * *T. N. Claytor, D. D. Jackson and D. G. Tuggle Los Alamos National Laboratory Los Alamos, NM 87545 * ABSTRACT Over the past year we have been able to demonstrate that a plasma loading method produces an exciting and unexpected amount of tritium from small palladium wires. In contrast to electrochemical hydrogen or deuterium loading of palladium, this method yields a reproducible tritium generation rate when various electrical and physical conditions are met. Small diameter wires (100 - 250 microns) have been used with gas pressures above 200 torr at voltages and currents of about 2000 V at 3-5 A. By carefully controlling the sputtering rate of the wire, runs have been extended to hundreds of hours allowing a significant amount ( 10’s nCi) of tritium to accumulate. We will show tritium generation rates for deuterium-palladium foreground runs that are up to 25 times larger than hydrogen-palladium control experiments using materials from the same batch. We will illustrate the difference between batches of annealed palladium and as received palladium from several batches as well as the effect of other metals (Pt, Ni, Nb, Zr, V, W, Hf) to demonstrate that the tritium generation rate can vary greatly from batch to batch.
Re: [Vo]:Re: Thermal Resonance Fusion
He has the correct mechanism, thermal vibrations. He is way off on energy.
Thermal vibrations contain only a small fraction of an electron volt in energy.
He has no clue as to the frequency of vibration as related to domain size which
is 1,094,000 hertz meters
Frank Z
-Original Message-
From: Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2015 1:43 pm
Subject: [Vo]:Re: Thermal Resonance Fusion
I am seeing some critique of this on e-catworld but nobody is saying why it has
to be more complicated than this. Agreed, getting the thermal resonance might
be hard to do, but why can't that just be all that's required to achieve
tunneling? This is by far the most compelling concept I've read on this.
Interesting to see someone at the Department of Nuclear Physics, China
Institute of Atomic Energy making the assumption (without references!) that
LENR is occurring.
Actually, low energy D fusion catalyzed by nickel can be investigated and con-
firmed experimentally
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Blaze Spinnakerblazespinna...@gmail.com
wrote:
I love the references, lol:
[1] Wikipedia, Nuclear Fusion, (http : // en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclearf
usion), 17 March 2015.
[2] Wikipedia, Cold Fusion, (http : // en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coldf usion),
25 September 2014.
..
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Blaze Spinnaker
blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
Vorteceans - Looks really exciting:
We first show a possible mechanism to create a new type of nuclear
fusion, thermal resonance fusion, i.e. low energy nuclear fusion with thermal
resonance of light nuclei or atoms, such as deuterium or tritium. The fusion of
two light nuclei has to overcome the Coulomb barrier between these two nuclei
to reach up to the interacting region of nuclear force. We found nuclear fusion
could be realized with thermal vibrations of crystal lattice atoms coupling
with light atoms at low energy by resonance to overcome this Coulomb barrier.
Thermal resonances combining with tunnel effects can greatly enhance the
probability of the deuterium fusion to the detectable level. Our low energy
nuclear fusion mechanism research - thermal resonance fusion mechanism results
demonstrate how these light nuclei or atoms, such as deuterium, can be fused in
the crystal of metal, such as Ni or alloy, with synthetic thermal vibrations
and resonances at different modes and energies experimentally. The probability
of tunnel effect at different resonance energy given by the WKB method is shown
that indicates the thermal resonance fusion mode, especially combined with the
tunnel effect, is possible and feasible. But the penetrating probability
decreases very sharply when the input resonance energy decreases less than 3
keV, so for thermal resonance fusion, the key point is to increase the
resonance peak or make the resonance sharp enough to the acceptable energy
level by the suitable compound catalysts, and it is better to reach up more
than 3 keV to make the penetrating probability larger than 10^{-10}.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1507.01650
