[Vo]:LENR INFO FOR JULY 23, 2015
A few interesting things here: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/07/just-lenr-info-for-jul-23-2015.html Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Seeing quantum objects with the naked eye
Entanglement does produce quantum mechaical based fusion. The formation of a superatom is central to the formation of 10^13 protons each with an energy of 14 MeV in 12 nanosecons as measure by the experimental equipment. But the way the Leif Holmild experiment reads, this 10^13 protons was seen in a very small observation hole where the detection equipment was setup. How much of the solid angle was that hole accounted for if the protons were broadcasut fram a sental location. The number of fusion events might be HUGE. And they all happened in 12 nanoseconds. On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: *From:* Axil Axil Jones Beene wrote: The big news this month in LENR theory could be “near ambient polaritons” But this is definitely hot fusion – with particles in the 10 MeV range. Ø The Sveinn Ólafsson news can reveal some insights into the LENR reaction. The LENR reaction produced by the LASER pulse is different from the Rossi reaction because it produces high energy protons rather than thermalized heat energy. This explosive reaction looks like the reaction that produces pressure in the Papp engine and is without heat. It is unlikely that this Leif Holmild reaction is a hot fusion reaction. It is more likely a reaction based on quantum mechanical entanglement and coherence in a aggregation of hydrogen crystals. That makes no scientific sense. We do not need to dispense with anything so basic as Boyles Law. High energy protons thermalize quickly and reliably. Pressure does not magically happen in a gas, over and over, without corresponding thermal changes. QM entanglement provides the basis for enhanced probability of polaritons, but that increase does not in itself relate to thermal gain or pressure change … at least not without the all-important “second step” which could be fusion, or that second step could be something else. If there is something else that you have found, then that needs to be described in detail - but it cannot be labeled as QM entanglement alone. And why persist at invoking a possible scam to prove a dubious point? The Papp engine could be the longest running scam in alternative energy. No scientific evidence exists that it ever worked, then or now. If someone has now found a way to make the Papp engine work, then “stand and deliver” and provide the experimental data from a competent test … instead of invoking the 50 year old scam. Anyone can hide batteries and motors and make an engine seem to turn on its own, so long as there are gullible investors who will pay millions … but without real data from an independent test, it’s just garbage… like Papp’s other invention, the 300 mph submarine. Jones
[Vo]:Its all about entanglement
Widom-Larsen theory concepts is coming along nicely. This theory explains how Bose condensation is central to the quantum causation of the LENR reaction, but is still missing the boat on the details of the ultimate reason for the activation of the reaction. Widom-Larsen theory’s concept still holds that low energy neutron production is the underlying causative mechanism of the LENR reaction. It is sad that the old nuclear engineering paradigm is still got W-L theory paralyzed by 20th century thinking. The ultimate causation mechanism of the LENR reaction is ENTANGLEMENT. It is amazing how fundamental that entanglement is in our universe. The new theories in physics posits entanglement is the fundamental cause of just about everything that is important in the goings on in our universe from gravity, to time, to the instantaneous projection of the 2 dimensional holographic surface reality on the event horizon of the universe to the embedded 4 dimensional space time universe that we live in. Then there is thermodynamics that is based on entanglement and the arrow of time that it provides. Widom-Larsen theory has shown a remarkable ability to accept new ideas in the LENR paradigm. I hope before the end of this century comes to pass that this top tier LENR theory can make the jump to the entanglement mechanism. As the first step, entanglement is why the formation of a Bose condensate is so important to the LENR process.
RE: [Vo]:100 micrometer limit for condensate
Fran, Note that the film cannot exceed 100 microns in thickness, but the experimental results were done at 100 nanometer dimensions. Thus a Casimir force connection is not ruled out SIDE NOTE: The plastic film being employed to host polaritons has a resemblance to the “ultraconductor” or UC which is a high temperature superconductor made from polymers - but with peculiar properties that make it unsuitable for normal usage as wire. Here is Kevin Shambrook’s explanation of the UC, which exhibits high temperature superconductivity only in the Z-axis (perpendicular to the plane of the film). HOWEVER, this axis is (could be) exactly where you want the superconductivity to materialize, if the ultimate aim is form polaritons on a film as a vortex like structure along the Z-axis. http://www.superconductors.org/ultra.htm From: Roarty, Francis X From EurekaAlert citation http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-07/pm-wfs071415.php [snip] The size of the condensate is a limiting factor In addition to directly observing the organic polariton condensate's wavelike behaviour, the experiment showed researchers that ultimately the condensate size could not exceed approximately 100 micrometres.[/snip]
Re: [Vo]:Seeing quantum objects with the naked eye
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The big news this month in LENR theory could be “near ambient polaritons” But this is definitely hot fusion – with particles in the 10 MeV range. Jones http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/news/2015/07/17/icelandic_scientist_may_have_found_solution_to_glob/ The Sveinn Ólafsson news can reveal some insights into the LENR reaction. The LENR reaction produced by the LASER pulse is different from the Rossi reaction because it produces high energy protons rather than thermalized heat energy. This explosive reaction looks like the reaction that produces pressure in the Papp engine and is without heat. It is unlikely that this Leif Holmild reaction is a hot fusion reaction. It is more likely a reaction based on quantum mechanical entanglement and coherence in a aggregation of hydrogen crystals. http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0912/0912.5414.pdf Note the pictures of the rydberg matter in the figures at the end of this paper F. Winterberg, University of Nevada, Reno, has a reaction mechanism that I like a lot. It is based on a electron vortex and a Bose Einstein condensate(BEC) being imposed on the ultra dense hydrogen crystals of rydberg matter. But unlike F. Winterberg thinking, I believe that the LASER pulse produces the BEC over the area that it irradiates. But Leif Holmild has this dense hydrogen covered through his detection of ultra dense hydrogen rydberg matter molecule. Yes, that stuff is a molecule and not a single atom and it is very important in LENR. Holmild just showed an experiment that produced 10^13 fusion of D D to He4 using a laser. Holmild has taken control of this theory with work that extends for the last decade. http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1302/1302.2781.pdf After the LASER pulse, a very large number of high energy protons up to 14 MeV are detected and measures by test equipment, Up to 10^13 in number. Just like what happens in the Piantelli experiments where protons carry away the nuclear binding energy of copper transmustation, for holmild, protons carry away the nuclear binding energy of D D fusion. That number of D D reactions exceeds any number of atoms that can be found in a rydberg crystal. The LASER must set up a BEC in the area that the laser spot covered. That area of radiance must have covered a large number of individual Rydberg crystals. Where the aggregation of crystals form a BEC, they become entangled and coherent. This is what cluster fusion is all about. The aggregation of rysberg clusters act as a single superatom. As F. Winterberg segestes, the laser changes the nature of the electrons into polaritons that form a vortex ring that reposition deuterium ions(protons, neutrons) at its center, These ions combine because they are so close in terms of QM entanglement; not PHYSICAL LOCATION. The deuterium atoms are separated physically, but overlap quantum mechanically. When the LASER pulse is complete, the superposition of the protons is resolved and the energy of the fusion of deuterium ions is imparted to the millions of protons in the QM core of the aggregation. But what makes the difference now, the LASER beam is not capable of connecting the region of positive vacuum energy with the associated negitive vacuum energy region so the energy produced by fusion is not thermalized over the population of polaritons. The LASER produces entanglement and not the polaritons so the polaritons do not get the energy, and the polaritons do not thermalize the energy from fusion. The important point to understand is that actual location of the deuterium atoms does not matter, the BEC moves all the atoms via the 5th dimension so that their wave forms all overlap. The formation of the BEC makes the LASER more powerful to induce fusion than does all the power produced in the National Ignition Facility, or NIF. There, a laser beam of 500 terawatt (TW) peak flash of light cannot produce fusion in dueterium. But with rydberg matter of deuterium, fusion using a laser is easy. On the other hand, the Sveinn Ólafsson’s reaction is the Rossi reaction where potassium doped iron oxide produces the polariton vortexes the catalize the fusion of deuterium and thermalize the nuclear energy of that fusion into heat.
[Vo]:Seeing quantum objects with the naked eye
The big news this month in LENR theory could be near ambient polaritons which can be seen as unmagnified afterglow on a disordered plastic film after laser irradiation. Despite the appeal of polaritons and SPP for application to LENR theory, there has been no experimental data which does not use specialty materials at extremely low temperatures. Almost everything else with polaritons, prior to now has been - extrapolation - from experimental work done at ultra-cold temperature. Peter picked up one aspect of the story - which was the quick nabbing of this new work into W-L theory. At least this time W-L have given some credit to the authors, whereas their usual practice is to go silent on why their own base theory has changed and improved, once again immediately following someone else's breakthrough. Funny . like Randell Mills, W-L seldom slow down to correct past errors, such as the absurd notion of ultra-low momentum neutrons. Anyway, here is the best News story (actually a blog) which I have seen thus far - on the new polariton work: Seeing quantum objects with the naked eye http://www.frogheart.ca/?p=17754 Unlike [other polariton] work carried out to date, which has mainly used ultracold atomic gases, our research allows comprehensive studies of condensation to be performed in condensed matter systems under ambient conditions explains Mr. Daskalakis. He notes that this is a key step toward carrying out physics projects that currently remain purely theoretical. Now . the missing ingredient for LENR theory is how to translate irradiated ambient polaritons to thermal gain at much higher temperature. The M.O. for that second step probably employs intense magnetic fields acting on very dense hydrogen. It should be noted that Leif Holmlid's work employs a laser - and consequently he very easily could be making polaritons first, even if that was serendipitous. Deuterons then fuse via magnetic containment and spin wave coupling - instead of simply having the laser accelerating the deuterons which cannot happen with a low power laser. It is a bootstrap process where power is multiplied. In the end, it looks like we are getting very close to an adequate theoretical basis for one or two of the many forms of LENR. There could be a dozen or more different routes for gain in LENR, and the one involving dense deuterium and polaritons is probably the most robust. But this is definitely hot fusion - with particles in the 10 MeV range. Jones
[Vo]:100 micrometer limit for condensate
From EurekaAlert citationhttp://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-07/pm-wfs071415.php [snip] The size of the condensate is a limiting factor In addition to directly observing the organic polariton condensate's wavelike behaviour, the experiment showed researchers that ultimately the condensate size could not exceed approximately 100 micrometres.[/snip] I think Axil has already highlighted this condensate limit and possible relation to Rossi microtubules but it bears repeating and should guide future reactor designs, anything that makes these reactors more stable is going to improve the overall control loop function – the issue that keeps Rossi in his steele box day and night. It could be as simple as a support structure that divides his microtubules into containers that meet the 100 mm limit. Fran From: Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 11:47 AM To: Arik El Boher; Bo Hoistadt; Brian Ahern; CMNS; Dagmar Kuhn; David Daggett; doug marker; Dr. Braun Tibor; eCatNews; Gabriel Moagar-Poladian; Gary; Haiko Lietz; jeff aries; Mark Tsirlin; Nicolaie N. Vlad; Peter Bjorkbom; Peter Mobberley; Pierre Clauzon; Roberto Germano; Roy Virgilio; Steve Katinski; Sunwon Park; Valerio Ciampoli; vlad; VORTEX Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:LENR INFO FOR JULY 23, 2015 A few interesting things here: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/07/just-lenr-info-for-jul-23-2015.html Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
RE: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Jeffery Allan Lash: secret agent or space alien?
Thanks, Jed, I live for this. ;-) One of my life studies has been to look into alternate belief systems. For better or worse, we can’t live without them. Within the UFO community there exist many theories (or beliefs) that mirror something similar to Mr. Alan’s pertaining to either the alleged hybridization or cross pollen-ization of the human race. Think of the popular sci-fi series Stargate and its many popular spin-offs, to get a good flavor of what this premise supports. In Mr. Alan’s case, he appears to have taken the belief quite personally. Poor fellow. I wonder if he may have been harassed with some form of OCD... The belief that someone is doing something to you or to your body combined with a tendency to hoard such as over a million dollars’ worth of collected firearms could possibly suggest such a condition was messing with him. Mix this condition up with a collection of well-intentioned enablers, and one ends up with not a very healthy combination. Full disclosure: in all honesty I personally find aspects of the human-alien hybridization theory intriguing. Of course, it’s a great sci-fi premise. The concept was brought to life in a wonderful B+ movie, “Quatermass and the Pit”, or as it was re-released in the United States, “5 Million Years to Earth.” For a low-budget sci-fi thriller, I cannot recommend a better film to watch on the big flat screen surrounded with your best and nerdiest friends sharing a big bowl of hot buttered popcorn. For the amount of money spent on this type of genre you can’t lose. Entertaining, and thought provoking: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quatermass_and_the_Pit_%28film%29 While many might scoff and ridicule the hybridization premise, it’s really not any more eccentric than believing in similar reality systems, like creationism, which is held dear by many members of our community. The fact that most creationists get along well within the community, hold decent paying jobs, raise healthy families, and pay taxes, holding onto such a belief does not appear to be destructive in itself. So, I keep trying to tell myself: live and let live. I believe the core premise of the belief system may best be exemplified at the following museum: http://creationmuseum.org/ I sure hope I get a chance to visit the establishment. I’ve heard so much about it, including an “independent” report that will live in infamy out on the Internet. A bunch of fans chipped in and paid their favorite sci-fi author, John Scalzi, to take a trip to the museum and then write up a special report. You can read the review out in his blog, “whatever”. http://whatever.scalzi.com/2007/11/12/your-creation-museum-report/ Enjoy! And now, back to regularly scheduled programming. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Its all about entanglement
The latest mechanism to remove the firewall paradox from the Black Hole theories is communication of entanglemnet through worm holes. The 5th dimension is now out and entanglement catalized by worm holes are the quantum mechanical communication mechanism for LENR. If you have the time, here is an explanation of this idea: Wormholes Untangle a Black Hole Paradox https://www.quantamagazine.org/20150424-wormholes-entanglement-firewalls-er- epr/ Take note: To be sure, ER = EPR does not yet apply to just any kind of space, or any kind of entanglement. It takes a special type of entanglement and a special type of wormhole. “Lenny and Juan are completely aware of this,” said Marolf, who recently co-authored a paper describing wormholes with more than two ends. This is why the polaritons must produce a Black Hole of EMF to insure that the condition that ER=EPR apply. On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Widom-Larsen theory concepts is coming along nicely. This theory explains how Bose condensation is central to the quantum causation of the LENR reaction, but is still missing the boat on the details of the ultimate reason for the activation of the reaction. Widom-Larsen theory’s concept still holds that low energy neutron production is the underlying causative mechanism of the LENR reaction. It is sad that the old nuclear engineering paradigm is still got W-L theory paralyzed by 20th century thinking. The ultimate causation mechanism of the LENR reaction is ENTANGLEMENT. It is amazing how fundamental that entanglement is in our universe. The new theories in physics posits entanglement is the fundamental cause of just about everything that is important in the goings on in our universe from gravity, to time, to the instantaneous projection of the 2 dimensional holographic surface reality on the event horizon of the universe to the embedded 4 dimensional space time universe that we live in. Then there is thermodynamics that is based on entanglement and the arrow of time that it provides. Widom-Larsen theory has shown a remarkable ability to accept new ideas in the LENR paradigm. I hope before the end of this century comes to pass that this top tier LENR theory can make the jump to the entanglement mechanism. As the first step, entanglement is why the formation of a Bose condensate is so important to the LENR process.
RE: [Vo]:Seeing quantum objects with the naked eye
From: Axil Axil Jones Beene wrote: The big news this month in LENR theory could be “near ambient polaritons” But this is definitely hot fusion – with particles in the 10 MeV range. * The Sveinn Ólafsson news can reveal some insights into the LENR reaction. The LENR reaction produced by the LASER pulse is different from the Rossi reaction because it produces high energy protons rather than thermalized heat energy. This explosive reaction looks like the reaction that produces pressure in the Papp engine and is without heat. It is unlikely that this Leif Holmild reaction is a hot fusion reaction. It is more likely a reaction based on quantum mechanical entanglement and coherence in a aggregation of hydrogen crystals. That makes no scientific sense. We do not need to dispense with anything so basic as Boyles Law. High energy protons thermalize quickly and reliably. Pressure does not magically happen in a gas, over and over, without corresponding thermal changes. QM entanglement provides the basis for enhanced probability of polaritons, but that increase does not in itself relate to thermal gain or pressure change … at least not without the all-important “second step” which could be fusion, or that second step could be something else. If there is something else that you have found, then that needs to be described in detail - but it cannot be labeled as QM entanglement alone. And why persist at invoking a possible scam to prove a dubious point? The Papp engine could be the longest running scam in alternative energy. No scientific evidence exists that it ever worked, then or now. If someone has now found a way to make the Papp engine work, then “stand and deliver” and provide the experimental data from a competent test … instead of invoking the 50 year old scam. Anyone can hide batteries and motors and make an engine seem to turn on its own, so long as there are gullible investors who will pay millions … but without real data from an independent test, it’s just garbage… like Papp’s other invention, the 300 mph submarine. Jones
RE: [Vo]:Seeing quantum objects with the naked eye
I believe there was a report of a test by the US gov (Navy?) of the explosive power of Papp’s device in the form of a gun barrel ripped apart, after being carefully monitored as to that which was placed into it. Since cap discharge water explosions have been known to exist for decades, I never found Papp’s claims to be beyond belief.
[Vo]:Spin Currents
To create a current of spins in insulators, scientists have typically kept electrons stationary in a lattice made of an insulating ferromagnetic material, such as yttrium iron garnet (YIG). When they apply a heat gradient across the material, the spins begin to move—that is, information about the orientation of a spin is communicated from one point to another along the lattice, much in the way a wave moves through water without actually transporting the water molecules anywhere. Spin excitations known as magnons are thought to carry the current. Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-07-young-scientist-magnetic-material-unnecessary.html#jCp
Re: [Vo]:Spin Currents
The whole aspect of 3 phase car alternator generated voltages generated from spin alone is frequently dismissed as an effect of remanent magnetism of the rotating field rotor. The gyroscopic reaction force on the unpaired electron spins in the ferromagnetic pole faces in rotation should work to only exert a sideways deflection on the uncohered spins moving in the wrong direction with respect to the macroscopic rotation of the field rotor steel itself. Take a bunch of spinning gyroscopes in all directions, put them on a revolving turntable and see how precession makes all these spins seem more cohered. Essentially the magnetic gap assembly of the field rotor is feebly magnetized during rotation, meaning a priorvoltage on the rotating electromagnet itself is present before any field voltage current is introduced. Incredibly in all the google alternator references I have seen no where is the connection between the direction of spin of the field rotor and the proper polarity to be applied to the field to be in harmony with that spin mentioned. On top of all this because the field rotor has an air gap in rotation with respect to the stator windings, those windings see a varying inductance on their outputs, making this also a form of a parametric oscillator.All of these effects are made from rotational magnetism alone where the field of the alternator is not yet empowered.https://youtu.be/FAc3jQziiccOne of the classic early videos of the flux capacitor, which coincidentally my birthday of sept 7: 70 years prior to my own is featured on the third episode of back to the future. Will check the orders sir, and respond to original objective.HDN on spin factor.Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ On Friday, July 24, 2015 10:40 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: To create a current of spins in insulators, scientists have typically kept electrons stationary in a lattice made of an insulating ferromagnetic material, such as yttrium iron garnet (YIG). When they apply a heat gradient across the material, the spins begin to move—that is, information about the orientation of a spin is communicated from one point to another along the lattice, much in the way a wave moves through water without actually transporting the water molecules anywhere. Spin excitations known as magnons are thought to carry the current. Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-07-young-scientist-magnetic-material-unnecessary.html#jCp
