Re: [Vo]:Great quote from Benjamin Franklin

[Axil Axil]

What Ben said about finding the truth in nature is valid, but finding what
will work in Engineering is a different issue.

A good engineer will imagine a billion ways in which an invention will fail
so that invention is built to avoid all those failure modes. The disciples
of Cassandra make the best engineers.

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> A Certain Person with a Vivid Imagination often makes Bold Claims about
> cold fusion. These claims are not borne out by the literature, or by
> theory. They are, as far as I know, imaginary. He is the only one who
> believes them.
>
>
> Okay, there are many people like that in this field.
>
>
> Anyway, in answer to this person, I looked up a quote from Benjamin
> Franklin:
>
>
> "Perhaps the history of the errors of mankind, all things considered, is
> more valuable and interesting than that of their discoveries. Truth is
> uniform and narrow; it constantly exists, and does not seem to require so
> much an active energy, as a passive aptitude of soul in order to encounter
> it. But error is endlessly diversified; it has no reality, but is the pure
> and simple creation of the mind that invents it. In this field, the soul
> has room enough to expand herself, to display all her boundless faculties,
> and all her beautiful and interesting extravagancies and absurdities."
>
>
> —Benjamin Franklin, Report of Dr. Benjamin Franklin, and Other
> Commissioners, Charged by the King of France, with the Examination of the
> Animal Magnetism, as Now Practiced in Paris (1784)
>
>
> (People unfamiliar with his biography may not realize that Franklin was
> one of history's leading scientists. He was an FRS and he made fundamental
> contributions such as discovering positive and negative electricity, and
> inventing lighting rods and the Franklin stove.)
>
>
> - Jed
>
>
>
>

[Vo]:Great quote from Benjamin Franklin

[Jed Rothwell]

A Certain Person with a Vivid Imagination often makes Bold Claims about
cold fusion. These claims are not borne out by the literature, or by
theory. They are, as far as I know, imaginary. He is the only one who
believes them.


Okay, there are many people like that in this field.


Anyway, in answer to this person, I looked up a quote from Benjamin
Franklin:


"Perhaps the history of the errors of mankind, all things considered, is
more valuable and interesting than that of their discoveries. Truth is
uniform and narrow; it constantly exists, and does not seem to require so
much an active energy, as a passive aptitude of soul in order to encounter
it. But error is endlessly diversified; it has no reality, but is the pure
and simple creation of the mind that invents it. In this field, the soul
has room enough to expand herself, to display all her boundless faculties,
and all her beautiful and interesting extravagancies and absurdities."


—Benjamin Franklin, Report of Dr. Benjamin Franklin, and Other
Commissioners, Charged by the King of France, with the Examination of the
Animal Magnetism, as Now Practiced in Paris (1784)


(People unfamiliar with his biography may not realize that Franklin was one
of history's leading scientists. He was an FRS and he made fundamental
contributions such as discovering positive and negative electricity, and
inventing lighting rods and the Franklin stove.)


- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Measuring Spin

[Nigel Dyer]

Bob

I followed up the lead to Phillip Hatt's ideas.   I find these various 
grand unified ideas that individuals have put together fascinating.  I 
encountered one myself many years ago which I posted up on my website 
and I think mentioned on vortex-l some years ago


http://thedyers.org.uk/nigel/alfred-claude-jessup/

I suspect that a lot could be learnt by soing a careful study of all of 
these ideas and attempt some kind of meta synthesis.  There must be a 
genetic component to this in that my son has come up with his own GUT of 
a kind, but unfortunately it has got stuck in a pre-publication loop.   
When it has managed to leave the loop, vortex-l will be one of the first 
places to know.  What it does do is show the very clear relationship 
between the fundemental particles, quarks, electrons and neutrinos and 
certainly leaves me in no doubts of the reality of quarks.


Nigel

On 28/05/2017 18:59, bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote:


Nigel—


Philippe Hatt’s theory of the composition  and parameters of neutrons 
and protons—charge, mass and magnetic moment---as a system of positons 
and electrons is instructive.  His predictions of these parameters is 
“dead nuts on” with respect to existing experimental accuracy.  (No 
quarks involved or other virtual particles, only real particles.)


Bob Cook