Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form of LENR?

2017-09-26 Thread Axil Axil
The hellish conditions found in the Earth’s lower mantle: more than 1,800
miles below the surface, the lower mantle experiences temperatures nearing
4,000 degrees Fahrenheit and pressures that are 1.3 million times higher
than the air at earth's surface is where diamonds are created after a
milion years of enduring these intense physical conditions.

Graphite-to-diamond transformation induced by ultrasound cavitation

www.chm.bris.ac.uk/pt/diamond/pdf/drm17-931.pdf

Abstract
Diamond microcrystals have been synthesized using ultrasonic cavitation of
a suspension of hexagonal graphite in various organic liquid
media, at an average bulk temperature of the liquid up to 120°C and at
atmospheric pressure. The yield of diamond is up to 10% by mass. The
diamonds were characterized by scanning electron microscopy, X-ray
diffraction and laser Raman spectroscopy. Analysis of the crystallite size
distribution showed that the diamonds were nearly mono-dispersed, having a
size 6 or 9μm ± 0.5μm, with cubic, crystalline morphology.

one “successful” cavitation bubble collapse = one diamond crystal)

If cavitation can produce diamonds from graphite in a microsecond,
cavitation can also produce the same intense conditions that can produce
metallic hydride components such as metallic water and hydrogen deep inside
the earth and other planets.



On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Nigel Dyer  wrote:

> For some months I have been working with Cavitation Energy Systems (
> http://cavitationenergysystems.com/) who have been developing an
> efficient steam generator based on cavitation.  What is not obvious until
> you start going through the details of what they say on the website is that
> there appears to be five times more energy in the steam they produce than
> the electrical energy they use to produce it.
> I have met up with them in Florida and gone through the details of the
> system and it does appear to be as they claim.   The question is how does
> it manage to do this?  By combining knowledge of their system with other
> 'excess energy' systems that I am aware of and had dealings with I think
> the mechanism is as follows:
>
>- As they intended, they use a diesel injector to create a pulse of
>water that is full of cavitation bubbles.
>- When the pulse hits a nearby surface a shock wave travels back
>through the water initiating an almost synchronous  collapse of all the
>bubbles.
>- The potential differences within the collapsing bubbles accelerate
>some free protons such that they have an energy of the order of 10kV,
>enough to overcome the coulomb barrier and initiate fusion.
>- The fusion energy is carried away by a virtual neutrino, and there
>is a cascade of virtual neutrinos which distribute the energy as kinetic
>energy among nearby protons and electrons.  Some of the protons have
>sufficient energy to initiate a secondary fusion event starting a short
>duration chain reaction.  With others the kinetic energy they gain is
>transferred to the water molecule and consequently the water is heated up
>until it boils.
>
> The way that the bubbles collapse directs the energy away from the
> surface, avoiding the normal problems of cavitation systems where the
> cavitation causes damage to surfaces. The way that the shock wave causes
> all the bubbles to collapse and initiate fusion at close to the same time
> means that the energy from the proton-proton fusion is able to heat all of
> the water, converting it to steam, at which point the chain reaction stops.
>
> Not only do they appear to have significant energy gain but it is
> available in a highly usable form, as high temperature steam.  I have put
> together some more detailed notes.
>
> http://thedyers.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/CES_LENR.pdf
>
> Nigel
>
>
>
>
>


RE: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel formofLENR?

2017-09-26 Thread JonesBeene


Not sure if the video was mentioned earlier

https://youtu.be/VUH5WuUmJ2k?t=158




Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form of LENR?

2017-09-26 Thread Frank Grimer
I think they are cavitation pits where the high pF inside cavitation
bubbles has "sucked" the plastic out.

On 26 September 2017 at 18:56, Alan Fletcher  wrote:

>
> Not an expert in either .. but a lot of those look more like dendritic
> crystal growth than particle tracks.
> --
> *From: *"Axil Axil" 
> *To: *"vortex-l" 
> *Sent: *Monday, September 25, 2017 2:25:35 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel
> form of LENR?
>
> https://steemit.com/science/@mfmp/ecco-macro-photography-
> of-strange-radiation-tracks-in-fuel-container
>
>
> ECCO fuel preparation uses a cavitation based fuel preparation process
> that produces some sort of LENR active reaction activator. This activation
> seems to interact with plastic in a slow but relentless process until the
> plastic container is reduced to dust.
>
>
> Is anybody aware of a chemical reaction that can produce plastic
> disintegration, impact marks, and scratches on plastic as pictured in this
> deteriorating ECCO LENR reactor plastic fuel container?
>
>
> Those impact marks sure look like they are produced by high speed
> particles.
>


Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel formofLENR?

2017-09-26 Thread Che
Here's actual REAL, DOCUMENTED, VERIFIED *outrageously criminal* government
conspiracy, going on RIGHT NOW.

And PLEASE don't 'explain' to me that the USA is somehow 'different'.



On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:52 AM, JonesBeene  wrote:

>
>
> *From: *Brian Ahern 
>
>
>
> If you believe in MiB, then it is axiomatic that you believe in UFO
> conspiracies as well.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately this leaves you blind to scams by experts Rossi, Papp, Mills
> etc
>
>
>
> -
>
>
>
> Oh shucks, you mean to say the MIB aren’t reporting back to UFOs? Then
> they must be T-men G-men or what?
>
>
>
> LOL. I think Kellyanne nailed it… this is a case of “alternative facts”.
> We want our Kellyanne back!
>
>
>
> Wiki sez: reports of men in black represent experiences that "don’t seem
> to have occurred in the world of consensus reality"… they were quoting
> Jerome Clark, a county music song writer (therefore an expert on fabricated
> reality)… but seriously UFOs open the door to more than one reality – and
> given the dangerous notion of “majority rule” we could see MIB prerogatives
> written into an executive order – the future of BLM.
>
>
>
> To a few cynical scientists, this essentially means that there is indeed a
> “non consensus reality” (a huge fraction of the population which can become
> a majority in more than a few cases) where MIB/UFO/NWO/ and QuarkX exist as
> a figment of the imagination which is as real to that segment as the
> miracles of wine-to-water etc.
>
>
>
> Objective reality is such a bitch….
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-26 Thread Che
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Brian Ahern  wrote:

> If you believe in MiB, then it is axiomatic that you believe in UFO
> conspiracies as well.
>
>
> Unfortunately this leaves you blind to scams by experts Rossi, Papp, Mills
> and Mayer.
>

What a stupid thing to assert. NOT 'axiomatic'. Actually a NON SEQUITUR.

So who's blind here, eh?




>
>
> --
> *From:* Che 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:17 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel
> form ofLENR?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Brian Ahern  wrote:
> >
> > LeClair hides behind the conspiracy curtain. "He can't do any demos or
> the Men in Black will get him."
>
>
> Whatever the truth of anything else being claimed here on this eList --
> the so-called 'MiB' are very, VERY, *VERY* real. Forget Hollywood.
>
> People who predictably scoff at the very real threat posed to regime
> opponents of all kinds, are themselves not to be taken seriously, hear..?
> Such as yourself clearly do not understand how REAL power is used in this
> World. 'OU' researchers are obviously (to non-fools) MOST definitely 'of
> interest' to Status Quo 'Concerns': who want to KEEP things that way...
> (Got it?) Regardless. Ruthlessly and MOST criminally, if necessary. VERY
> 'Mafia'... and today, **most clearly right up to the oligarchic U.S.
> President himself** (Gawd help us...). Take a GOOD look at that
> publicity-seeking buffoon: because _behind_ him are similar others who
> *avoid* the limelight he seeks. And for good reason. THEY wield this awful
> power over us, which frightens so many.
>
>
> So we should be kinder to these people; and maybe understand the perhaps
> *justified* paranoia of those now in possession of something *possibly just
> worth stealing*... or shutting them up about.
>
>
> (Sheesh. Why does this have to be spelled out to pompous fools who won't
> listen anyway...)
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form of LENR?

2017-09-26 Thread Alan Fletcher

Not an expert in either .. but a lot of those look more like dendritic crystal 
growth than particle tracks. 

From: "Axil Axil"  
To: "vortex-l"  
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 2:25:35 PM 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form of 
LENR? 



https://steemit.com/science/@mfmp/ecco-macro-photography-of-strange-radiation-tracks-in-fuel-container
 




ECCO fuel preparation uses a cavitation based fuel preparation process that 
produces some sort of LENR active reaction activator. This activation seems to 
interact with plastic in a slow but relentless process until the plastic 
container is reduced to dust. 




Is anybody aware of a chemical reaction that can produce plastic 
disintegration, impact marks, and scratches on plastic as pictured in this 
deteriorating ECCO LENR reactor plastic fuel container? 




Those impact marks sure look like they are produced by high speed particles. 


RE: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel formofLENR?

2017-09-26 Thread JonesBeene

From: Brian Ahern

If you believe in MiB, then it is axiomatic that you believe in UFO 
conspiracies as well.

Unfortunately this leaves you blind to scams by experts Rossi, Papp, Mills etc

-

Oh shucks, you mean to say the MIB aren’t reporting back to UFOs? Then they 
must be T-men G-men or what?

LOL. I think Kellyanne nailed it… this is a case of “alternative facts”. We 
want our Kellyanne back! 

Wiki sez: reports of men in black represent experiences that "don’t seem to 
have occurred in the world of consensus reality"… they were quoting Jerome 
Clark, a county music song writer (therefore an expert on fabricated reality)… 
but seriously UFOs open the door to more than one reality – and given the 
dangerous notion of “majority rule” we could see MIB prerogatives written into 
an executive order – the future of BLM.

To a few cynical scientists, this essentially means that there is indeed a “non 
consensus reality” (a huge fraction of the population which can become a 
majority in more than a few cases) where MIB/UFO/NWO/ and QuarkX exist as a 
figment of the imagination which is as real to that segment as the miracles of 
wine-to-water etc. 

Objective reality is such a bitch….






RE: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-26 Thread Chris Zell
The USA is the only country on earth in which political murders are always done 
by lone gunmen unrelated to any conspiracy.

If you can't accept conspiracies, then think about stigmergy and how it shapes 
energy and foreign policy.

From: Nigel Dyer [mailto:l...@thedyers.org.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:01 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form 
ofLENR?


I think the appropriate advice is almost 2000 years old.  We need to be as wise 
as serpents and as innocent as doves. Not one, or the other, but both.



Nigel

On 26/09/2017 11:48, Brian Ahern wrote:

If you believe in MiB, then it is axiomatic that you believe in UFO 
conspiracies as well.



Unfortunately this leaves you blind to scams by experts Rossi, Papp, Mills and 
Mayer.


From: Che 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:17 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form 
ofLENR?



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Brian Ahern 
> wrote:
>
> LeClair hides behind the conspiracy curtain. "He can't do any demos or the 
> Men in Black will get him."



Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-26 Thread Nigel Dyer
I think the appropriate advice is almost 2000 years old.  We need to be 
as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves. Not one, or the other, but 
both.



Nigel


On 26/09/2017 11:48, Brian Ahern wrote:


If you believe in MiB, then it is axiomatic that you believe in UFO 
conspiracies as well.



Unfortunately this leaves you blind to scams by experts Rossi, Papp, 
Mills and Mayer.





*From:* Che 
*Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 10:17 PM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel 
form ofLENR?



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Brian Ahern > wrote:

>
> LeClair hides behind the conspiracy curtain. "He can't do any demos 
or the Men in Black will get him."




Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form ofLENR?

2017-09-26 Thread Brian Ahern
If you believe in MiB, then it is axiomatic that you believe in UFO 
conspiracies as well.


Unfortunately this leaves you blind to scams by experts Rossi, Papp, Mills and 
Mayer.



From: Che 
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:17 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Have Cavitation Energy Systems stumbled on a novel form 
ofLENR?



On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Brian Ahern 
> wrote:
>
> LeClair hides behind the conspiracy curtain. "He can't do any demos or the 
> Men in Black will get him."


Whatever the truth of anything else being claimed here on this eList -- the 
so-called 'MiB' are very, VERY, *VERY* real. Forget Hollywood.

People who predictably scoff at the very real threat posed to regime opponents 
of all kinds, are themselves not to be taken seriously, hear..? Such as 
yourself clearly do not understand how REAL power is used in this World. 'OU' 
researchers are obviously (to non-fools) MOST definitely 'of interest' to 
Status Quo 'Concerns': who want to KEEP things that way... (Got it?) 
Regardless. Ruthlessly and MOST criminally, if necessary. VERY 'Mafia'... and 
today, **most clearly right up to the oligarchic U.S. President himself** (Gawd 
help us...). Take a GOOD look at that publicity-seeking buffoon: because 
_behind_ him are similar others who *avoid* the limelight he seeks. And for 
good reason. THEY wield this awful power over us, which frightens so many.


So we should be kinder to these people; and maybe understand the perhaps 
*justified* paranoia of those now in possession of something *possibly just 
worth stealing*... or shutting them up about.


(Sheesh. Why does this have to be spelled out to pompous fools who won't listen 
anyway...)