Re: [Vo]:Rossi dog & pony show with full audio

[Jed Rothwell]

Nigel Dyer  wrote:

I've sat through a number of talks at fringe science conferences that were
> modelled on the two excellent you tube videos. The speakers usually give
> every impression that they fully believe the nonsense that they are
> presenting is correct.


They probably do believe it. But you should bear in mind that the problem
might be on your end. Unfamiliar ideas often sound like nonsense, yet they
sometimes turn out to be right.

Regarding ideas that seem wrong and turn out to be wrong, see the marvelous
quote at the end of this essay, p. 13:

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJlessonsfro.pdf

See also this book, which I recommend: "Being Wrong: Adventures in the
Margin of Error," by Kathryn Schulz. This begins with a quote from
Franklin, which I think describes one of the reasons people are seduced
into believing errors:

Perhaps the history of the errors of mankind, all things considered, is
more valuable and interesting than that of their discoveries. Truth is
uniform and narrow; it constantly exists, and does not seem to require so
much an active energy, as a passive aptitude of soul in order to encounter
it. But error is endlessly diversified; it has no reality, but is the pure
and simple creation of the mind that invents it. In this field, the soul
has room enough to expand herself, to display all her boundless faculties,
and all her beautiful and interesting extravagancies and absurdities.

—Benjamin Franklin, Report of Dr. Benjamin Franklin, and Other
Commissioners, Charged by the King of France, with the Examination of the
Animal Magnetism, as Now Practiced in Paris (1784)

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi dog & pony show with full audio

[Adrian Ashfield]

"he “ought to have” seen something valid, but if so, he has done a grand job of 
hiding it and making success look exactly like fraud looks."

You can tell what good job he is doing because he isn't giving any more demos 
and is not asking the public for a dime.  Obviously a brand be scam where you 
don;t make any money.  Genius!

RE: [Vo]:Rossi dog & pony show with full audio

[JonesBeene]

From: Nigel Dyer

➢ There must be some fascinating psychology at  work.  I assume that it has a 
syndrome name. If not then I am sure we 
could give it one.

Agreed. There is Borderline Personality Disorder" (BPD) and check out the old 
Essay on the Leviton lie, from our mystery moderator Bill Beaty. The last part 
covers many bases.
http://amasci.com/maglev/levbill1.html

Curiously, I am reading “Two kinds of Truth” right now, and in the context of 
“alternative facts” it is arguable that a case can be made for almost any false 
proposition, including that Rossi really has something this time. In fact, 
since he is in a field where modest thermal anomalies have been shown in the 
past, he “ought to have” seen something valid, but if so, he has done a grand 
job of hiding it and making success look exactly like fraud looks.

“Munchausen syndrome by proxy” is another  a well-known mental health problem 
in which a caregiver secretly harms a patient in order to get credit for 
discovering the fake illness (which was in fact caused by the caregiver). Is 
this a variant? 

There is weird transactional similarity in Rossi’s irrational desire to be 
recognized as a great inventor, even with no qualifications and in the face of 
past failures despite the harm that it does to his loyal followers.  He has an 
uncanny recognition for the fact that some target scientists want to see a 
particular outcome so badly that they will believe almost anything he says. The 
hilarious episode with Kulander and the Nobel prize is emblematic on how far 
removed Rossi is from reality. One hopes it did not hasten his demise.

But the really pathetic thing is the mindset of his a few of his sycophants, 
one of whom even refused to believe (in an earlier thread on vortex) that Rossi 
could be wearing a wig, back when the first picture emerged.

Why? I suppose that a wig is itself symbolic of Rossi’s pathology. It’s kind of 
a symbol of fakery and (lost) vigor but is completely unnecessary for a great 
inventor, a few of whom have turned the problem into a status symbol or even 
into fringe IP …

https://thisdayinbaldhistory.wordpress.com/tag/inventors/

BTW – many of us on this forum, present company included, are well on the way 
to baldness but have a different (couldn’t care less) attitude about the need 
to hide it.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi dog & pony show with full audio

[Nigel Dyer]

I've sat through a number of talks at fringe science conferences that 
were modelled on the two excellent you tube videos. The speakers usually 
give every impression that they fully believe the nonsense that they are 
presenting is correct.  There must be some fascinating psychology at 
work.  I assume that it has a syndrome name. If not then I am sure we 
could give it one.


Nigel

On 29/11/2017 15:39, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Here is a copy of the video of Rossi's D show with the full audio 
track:


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ya7fcYQhOOQo8a7EDNPHma5r25eJvxDY/view

The version now at YouTube has chunks of the audio track cut out. 
Someone at LENR-forum was kind enough to upload the previous version 
with the full audio track. It will be available for a limited time, so 
download it if you want it.


Here are two semi-comprehensive descriptions of Rossi's theory as it 
applies to automotive transmissions and big data. In the first video, 
be sure to see the repair section starting at 1:55.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzHq1Ssi0r8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSJsuJOk1DA

- Jed

[Vo]:Rossi dog & pony show with full audio

[Jed Rothwell]

Here is a copy of the video of Rossi's D show with the full audio track:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ya7fcYQhOOQo8a7EDNPHma5r25eJvxDY/view

The version now at YouTube has chunks of the audio track cut out. Someone
at LENR-forum was kind enough to upload the previous version with the full
audio track. It will be available for a limited time, so download it if you
want it.

Here are two semi-comprehensive descriptions of Rossi's theory as it
applies to automotive transmissions and big data. In the first video, be
sure to see the repair section starting at 1:55.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzHq1Ssi0r8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSJsuJOk1DA

- Jed