[Vo]:The Moon's interior is hot.

2019-04-01 Thread Axil Axil
https://phys.org/news/ 2019-04-temperature-moon-reveal.html

the Moon has an iron core, like that of Earth, and previous research using
seismic data had found that between 5 and 30 percent of the material at the
boundary of the core and mantle was in a liquid or molten state. the
temperature to be between 1,300 and 1,470 degrees Celsius


Re: [Vo]:Mills water bath calorimetry tests

2019-04-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
I cannot judge whether the BLP results are real or not. For sake of
argument, let's assume they are. In that case, I cannot understand why they
keep changing their methods and starting over from scratch. As Jones Beene
said, Thermacore's results decades ago were more impressive.

I think the people at BLP have said the previous methods could not be
developed into a practical source of energy, and that is why they keep
coming up with new methods. That strikes me as a bad business strategy. The
device does not need to be practical at this stage. It just needs to be
real, and convincing. If you can demonstrate an impractical device you can
use it raise funding, get patents and make progress. First generation
devices are often impractical. The first Diesel engines, airplanes,
transistors and computers were impractical, but they triggered a lot of
excitement, investment and research that soon led to practical devices.

Brillouin Energy is also trying to develop a practical device. Their
statements say they "have to" reach a certain COP before they can sell
devices. This is a similar misguided business strategy, in my opinion. They
don't have to reach any particular performance level, and there no need to
make the thing practical at this stage. They can succeed faster and make
more money if they demonstrate impractical devices today, rather than wait
months or years for a practical device. Waiting until it becomes practical
is likely to mean they will wait forever. Or wait until they run out of
money, gumption, and the patience of the investors. They should take what
they have, make the best of it, and do something *now*. An impractical
device today would be far better than a practical device in 5 years. The
impractical device would bring in billions of dollars of R money, which
in 5 years would result in products far better than they can develop at the
present pace, with present funding levels.

(I cannot judge whether Brullouin's claims are real either. I am assuming
they are.)

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Mills water bath calorimetry tests

2019-04-01 Thread mixent
In reply to  JonesBeene's message of Mon, 1 Apr 2019 06:58:58 -0700:
Hi,
>
>This paper is most  disappointing if it represents the extent of progress of 
>BLP over the past 30 years.

I don't think it does. This was a "solid" based reaction, not the flashy :)
reaction in the glass bottle, that was running continuously for some time with
no input power, IIRC. I think it's the previous iteration of the technology.
[snip]
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success



Re: [Vo]:Mills water bath calorimetry tests

2019-04-01 Thread Axil Axil
A strong electric arc is needed to start the plasma, but what Mills has not
discovered yet is that a continuing .25 watt RF signal will maintain the
plasma in substitution for the constant application of a welders output
power. This discovery would increase the COP of Mills' reaction
considerably.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 10:44 PM  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> See
>
> https://brilliantlightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Calorimetry_Validation_Report-3.2019.pdf
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> local asymmetry = temporary success
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Mills water bath calorimetry tests

2019-04-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
JonesBeene  wrote:


>
> This paper is most  disappointing if it represents the extent of progress
> of BLP over the past 30 years.
>
>
>
> The results from Thermacore decades ago were way more impressive.
>

Yes. You probably have in mind this paper:

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GernertNnascenthyd.pdf


RE: [Vo]:Mills water bath calorimetry tests

2019-04-01 Thread JonesBeene

This paper is most  disappointing if it represents the extent of progress of 
BLP over the past 30 years.

The results from Thermacore decades ago were way more impressive.

Why have Mills investors been so patient over all these years?



From: mix...@bigpond.com

See
https://brilliantlightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Calorimetry_Validation_Report-3.2019.pdf






Re: [Vo]:Possible LENR-based consumer product

2019-04-01 Thread Esa Ruoho
Alan, why do you humor these people?
It's bad enough that the MFMP people post it on their facebook, but for it
to hit vortex-list, too?
And their excuse over at MFMP Facebook is "Yeah we're known for this".


On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 06:58, AlanG  wrote:

> Just announced by Quantum Heat:
>
> https://goo.gl/DbWyn1
>


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Re: [Vo]:Possible LENR-based consumer product

2019-04-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
It is good to see that American innovation is still a thing. Americans also
lead in cloud-based inverse reactive data schemes. See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSJsuJOk1DA


RE: [Vo]:Possible LENR-based consumer product

2019-04-01 Thread JonesBeene

It’s that time of year again.


From: Nigel Dyer
:-) 
AlanG wrote:
Just announced by Quantum Heat:

https://goo.gl/DbWyn1



Re: [Vo]:Possible LENR-based consumer product

2019-04-01 Thread Nigel Dyer

:-)

On 01/04/2019 04:58, AlanG wrote:

Just announced by Quantum Heat:

https://goo.gl/DbWyn1