Re: [Vo]:Berkeley Lab to Lead ARPA-E Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Project

2023-04-06 Thread Robin
In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:41:27 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>See:
>
>https://atap.lbl.gov/lenr/

About 30 years too late. :)
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Re: [Vo]:AI and Evolution

2023-04-06 Thread Robin
In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 6 Apr 2023 20:47:41 -0400:
Hi,

...yet without writing, we would have no clue that what he said. :)
[snip]
>https://fs.blog/an-old-argument-against-writing/
>
>. . . And so it is that you by reason of your tender regard for the writing
>that is your offspring have declared the very opposite of its true effect.
>If men learn this, it will implant forgetfulness in their souls. *They will
>cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written,
>calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by
>means of external marks*.
>
>What you have discovered is a recipe not for memory, but for reminder. And
>it is no true wisdom that you offer your disciples, but only the semblance
>of wisdom, for by telling them of many things without teaching them you
>will make them seem to know much while for the most part they know nothing.
>And as men filled not with wisdom but with the conceit of wisdom they will
>be a burden to their fellows.
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Re: [Vo]:AI and Evolution

2023-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote:


> . . . I am terrible at spelling. In 1978 when I first got a computer
> terminal in my house, the first thing I did was to write a word processing
> program with WYSIWYG formatting and a spell check. . . . I have not been
> without word processing and spell checking since then. I felt the kind of
> liberation that no young person can understand. My mother felt the same way
> when she learned to drive a Model T at age 13 and started buzzing around
> New York City. . . .
>

I guess my point -- if there is a point to this rambling -- is that
technology can be enfeebling yet liberating at the same time. I could not
spell worth a damn before 1978, but I had to work at it. I had to be
disciplined and look up words in a paper dictionary. With spell check I
went soft! My mother hopped into a Model T and never had to walk again,
except for pleasure. She probably went soft. Yet at the same time we are
liberated and we like it. Maybe this author is right, and chatbots will
give us too much of a good thing. People have been saying the younger
generation is soft and going to hell in a handbasket for a long time. See
Plato's argument opposed to writing:

https://fs.blog/an-old-argument-against-writing/

. . . And so it is that you by reason of your tender regard for the writing
that is your offspring have declared the very opposite of its true effect.
If men learn this, it will implant forgetfulness in their souls. *They will
cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written,
calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by
means of external marks*.

What you have discovered is a recipe not for memory, but for reminder. And
it is no true wisdom that you offer your disciples, but only the semblance
of wisdom, for by telling them of many things without teaching them you
will make them seem to know much while for the most part they know nothing.
And as men filled not with wisdom but with the conceit of wisdom they will
be a burden to their fellows.


[Vo]:Berkeley Lab to Lead ARPA-E Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Project

2023-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
See:

https://atap.lbl.gov/lenr/