Re: [Vo]:A letter from a DoE official about cold fusion

2011-09-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Susan Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com wrote:


 did you have the chance to ask DoE about Rossi's e-cat ? He claimed in his
 paper that DoE saw a succesfull demostration back in 2009 !


I did not communicate with the DoE. Someone else did, and they sent me a
copy of the response. As you see, it is a form letter written by someone who
knows nothing. One of the cold fusion researchers read this and commented:

Thank you for confirmation that DOE doesn't read its own reports.

Opdenaker has probably not heard of Rossi, but as it happens, someone else
in the DoE has heard of him, and recently wrote an encouraging and
optimistic message saying he hopes Rossi is real. I do not think he observed
a test.

The DoE is a huge organization and people in one department have no idea
what is happening in another. Some of them have heard of cold fusion and
Rossi, and others clearly have not.

I cannot complain about Uncle Sam. Overall, the US government and especially
the military has better knowledge of cold fusion than any other institution
in the world. It has done more for cold fusion than any other. US
corporations have done nothing for cold fusion.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:A letter from a DoE official about cold fusion

2011-09-20 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jed-Storms;

 Jed, just so you are clear in your understanding, the response
 by the DOE has NO relationship to what the person who wrote the
 reply letter believes. He wrote the OFFICIAL policy of the organization.
 The official policy determines how the organization will respond to
 proposals and to questions. Investors and industry typically ask the
 DOE what they believe. If they say CF is nonsense, no money will be
 invested because the career of the person in the company making
 such a decision can be put in jeopardy.  Therefore, official policy has
 a big influence on decisions throughout the system.  The DOE,
 NASA, and the military have access to the same information yet
 they arrive at different official conclusions. Why do you think this is
 the case? The reason has no relationship to the evidence supporting
 CF claims or to personal beliefs within the organizations.

The implication seems to be that person or organization that really
wants to know if there is anything of value going on in CF research:
DYOHW.

(Do Your Own Home Work).

It's easy for the cynical part of me to wonder of what value does DOE
perform these days.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



[Vo]:A letter from a DoE official about cold fusion

2011-09-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
[This just in, sent by a friend. I don't write to the DoE. I wouldn't
bother.]


Monday, September 19, 2011


Dear Mr. Owens:



This is in response to your e-mail message to Secretary Chu dated September
13, 2011 in which you asked to know where the Department of Energy stands on
“cold fusion.”



In 1989, a review panel that had been charged by the Department concluded
that reports of the experimental results of excess heat from calorimetric
cells did not present convincing evidence that useful sources of energy will
result from the phenomena attributed to “cold fusion.”  To quote the panel,
“Hence, we recommend against the establishment of special programs or
research centers to develop cold fusion.”



In 2004, the Department organized a second review of the field and that
review reached essentially the same conclusion as the 1989 review.   The
Department’s Office of Sciences does not provide any funding support for
“cold fusion” research.



Al Opdenaker





Fusion Energy Sciences

Office of Science

US Department of Energy

301-903-4941

albert.opdena...@science.doe.gov