Re: [Vo]:Carl Page discusses cold fusion

[Jed Rothwell]

I wrote:


> Since 1960, extreme poverty worldwide has been reduced from 55% to 10%.
>

I meant 1950. It was 55% to 72%, depending on the definition. See the graph
I linked to:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/declining-global-poverty-share-1820-2015

The World Bank, the UN and various other sources agree with this.

See also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FACK2knC08E

Re: [Vo]:Carl Page discusses cold fusion

[Jed Rothwell]

Che  wrote:

The unstated -- but ever-present -- premise of such hopes for a brave new,
> cheap/abundant, 'clean' fuel source, is a fervently-hoped-for salvation of
> this decadent, dead-end Capitalist order from itself.
>

It is unstated because few people see it that way anymore. Capitalism may
be in crisis, but most people are unaware of that.



> Us marxists never kid ourselves about this (not-so-well) hidden agenda --
> or the most-likely real outcome of such pious pipe dreaming.
>

Still, things are a lot better than they used to be. Life is easier for
everyone. Since 1960, extreme poverty worldwide has been reduced from 55%
to 10%. It has declined in both percent and in absolute numbers. See:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/declining-global-poverty-share-1820-2015

As Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1818:

Indeed, we need look back half a century, to times which many now living
remember well, and see the wonderful advances in the sciences and arts
which have been made within that period. Some of these have rendered the
elements themselves subservient to the purposes of man, have harnessed them
to the yoke of his labors, and effected the great blessings of moderating
his own, of accomplishing what was beyond his feeble force, and extending
the comforts of life to a much enlarged circle, to those who had before
known its necessaries only. That these are not the vain dreams of sanguine
hope, we have before our eyes real and living examples.


So much for your "pipe dream" pipe dreams.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Carl Page discusses cold fusion

[Peter Gluck]

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/01/jan-2-2016-lenr-message-and-info-second.html
(corrected)

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Peter Gluck  wrote:

> Carl Page EDGE answer published on Jan 2 this year
> shttp://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/01/jan-2-2016-lenr-
> message-and-info-second.htmlee
>
> peter
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Jed Rothwell 
> wrote:
>
>> See:
>>
>> "Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Work And Could Supplant Fossil Fuels"
>>
>> https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26753
>>
>> This is a positive article.
>>
>> I gather this person is the brother of Larry Page, the founder of Google.
>> So I suppose he is influential.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>



-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Carl Page discusses cold fusion

[Peter Gluck]

Carl Page EDGE answer published on Jan 2 this year
shttp://
egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/01/jan-2-2016-lenr-message-and-info-second.htmlee

peter

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> See:
>
> "Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Work And Could Supplant Fossil Fuels"
>
> https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26753
>
> This is a positive article.
>
> I gather this person is the brother of Larry Page, the founder of Google.
> So I suppose he is influential.
>
> - Jed
>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Carl Page discusses cold fusion

[Che]

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Jed Rothwell 
wrote:

> See:
>
> "Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Work And Could Supplant Fossil Fuels"
>
> https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26753
>
> This is a positive article.
>
> I gather this person is the brother of Larry Page, the founder of Google.
> So I suppose he is influential.
>
> - Jed
>
>

The unstated -- but ever-present -- premise of such hopes for a brave new,
cheap/abundant, 'clean' fuel source, is a fervently-hoped-for salvation of
this decadent, dead-end Capitalist order from itself.

Us marxists never kid ourselves about this (not-so-well) hidden agenda --
or the most-likely real outcome of such pious pipe dreaming.

[Vo]:Carl Page discusses cold fusion

[Jed Rothwell]

See:

"Low Energy Nuclear Reactions Work And Could Supplant Fossil Fuels"

https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26753

This is a positive article.

I gather this person is the brother of Larry Page, the founder of Google.
So I suppose he is influential.

- Jed