[Vo]:Dilithium pt2 The Immaculate Conception
The atomic mass of paired lithium-6 atoms is 2x 6.01512 = 12.03024 If the pairing were strong, this unit - which is being called dilithium could be arguably labeled as a bosonic-pair. There is evidence that it is strong. More on that later. The atomic mass of carbon-12 is exactly 12. Carbon-12 is bosonic. The small difference of 3% has never been of much interest AFAIK - in any previous scheme, or even wild hypothesis to use for nuclear energy for a number of reasons. 1) Lithium has been used as targets, and especially as the fission source for tritium, and in all kinds of nuclear experiments for 60 years or more; and there is no anecdotal evidence of an easy fusion reaction of lithium-6 to carbon. [however all of this prior RD has approached lithium reactions from the 'hot' side, and not the 'cold' side] 2) With the possible exception of deuterium cold fusion in condensed matter, there is no good model for even suggesting a direct pathway to fusion to Carbon. [Duh! that LENR model is precisely what has suggested this now] Cosmology: It should be noted that lithium is primordiual and was created in the big bang but carbon was not. Our sun is a second generation star, so primordial lithium has been depleted over many billions of years. Being a rare element now, lithium has not been given much attention in physics, except as a source for tritium via fission. The large amount of carbon we find today on earth is assumed to have a stellar origin in a triple alpha process. A stellar lithium fusion process is unlikey but that does not necessarily rule out a cold QM (tunnelling) process having occured in first generation planetary sytems such as in cold gas giants like Saturn. IOW the knowledge base for lithium, both in cosmology and in the lab, is weak enough to permit a fizzix-meshugga to explore around the edges - snooping for traces of somthing which has been overlooked (or intentionally hidden)... and given that almost all QM processess have been overlooked (compared to hot processes) in the past - that is more or less where I am attempting to go with this unfolding hypothesis about a possible pathway to clean energy from bosonic lithium. Besides the carbon pathway, there are at least two other possibilities worth exploring. It goes without saying that in some few past LENR experiments - when using lithium hydroxide as an electroyte, excess heat and anomalous carbon have turned up. Since almost all available lithium that we have access to for these experiment is actually strongly depleted in 6Li -- due to our weapons programs, the source of this carbon from past experiments is likely NOT related to the above hypothesis. However If any experimenter has or can obtain access to lithium electrolytes which are strongly enriched in 6Li, then the preceding hypothesis could be bolstered or else mostly falsified, by a showing of whether or not comparatively robust amounts of carbon are turing up in the NAE. I have been told that there is an efficient low-tech way for someone with access to large amounts of natural lithium to do a decent enrichment in the light isotope for themself. Given that the ratio of 6:7 is so humongous, as isotopes go - this sounds logical but I have not tried it and will not even repeat it in public for fear of that being a touchy subject on the Homeland Security front. Besides the carbon pathway, as mentioned, there are at least two other possibilities worth exploring and it could be that energy is obtainable from the bosonic state via a coupling to the ZPF, which is where this rambling will attempt to go, in the next installment. Jones
Re: [Vo]:Dilithium pt2 The Immaculate Conception
- Original Message From: Terry Blanton I'm sure you don't mean pure lithium electrodes for hydrolosis? :-) I will redo this post, as it was a first draft and not clear on how a device would be constructed, based on the operative hypothesis - but the pure metal cannot be used with water, as it is very reactive. And in any event the concentration of the light isotope is far too low in natural lithium. A method which could work using the pure metal - requires the isotope, 6Li, in a very high concentration, and in a vacuum chamber (hard vacuum) and surrounded by a very strong magnetic field. The low melting point of 358 F or 181C would be maintained in a very tight range, so that when irradiated with ultrasound, small vapor particles of the lithium isotope would ascend from the liquid - to be radiatively cooled - and separated by a technique to be more fully disclosed later. The idea is to produce what are essentially nanoparticles of a size which have spintronic properties -- such that they will have a very strong self-field (magnetic field), in that size range, and which are then repelled by the reactor field through a pinhole - to be processed further. The far more numerous vapor particles, which do not form into the correct size for a strong self-field when irradiated with ultrasound - those will eventually return to the melt. That part of the device is lossy, but only milligrams per minute will be required. More later, Jones
Re: [Vo]:Dilithium pt2 The Immaculate Conception
Howdy Jones, Let's not stop too quick in conceptualizing fizzix-meshugga exploration of Lithium... consider the opposite of Lithium in the periodic table.. hmmm. can't be done one may say.. but by viewing the atomic weights as describing a spiral.. shazzamm.. what would be the element opposite to Lithium? We often refer to color as having opposites..they are not, colors are described by a prism which is spiral in it's mathematics, and I, personally , hear and visualize sound in a spiral configuration (rather than circular like a pebble dropping in water creates a circular ripple). Back to the primoral vortex.. it keeps peeking it's conical head into science.. ( pointy heads wouldn't understand) Waiting with baited anticipation for this subject to sorta spill over to include Bismuth... she's female . you know..the ancients knew! Richard Jones wrote, IOW the knowledge base for lithium, both in cosmology and in the lab, is weak enough to permit a fizzix-meshugga to explore around the edges - snooping for traces of somthing which has been overlooked (or intentionally hidden)... and given that almost all QM processess have been overlooked (compared to hot processes) in the past - that is more or less where I am attempting to go with this unfolding hypothesis about a possible pathway to clean energy from bosonic lithium.
Re: [Vo]:Dilithium pt2 The Immaculate Conception
Hi Richard, Bismuth has many unusual properties which should be investigated for alternative energy potential - but this concept is looking specifically for bosons -- and bismuth doesn't suit the bill for that. Bosons are energy carriers, and they couple to other bosons in a direct coherent way, since they have the same integer spin, which could be important for gainfulness ... or not. Actually there are only a few light elements which could ever even be remotely subject to becoming a condensate (quasi-BEC) and perhaps lithium is the only one which is a liquid in a range of temperatures that allows its own surface tension to form nanoparticles of a size range which can bind to a Frenkel electron, for instance, and develop a very strong self-field. Actually buckyballs (C-60) which can also be considered as large unit bosons and which can do this [I think that C-60 is how the Frenekel exciton was discovered]; but yet this unit is apparently too large to show the special BEC spatial property -- which would possibly result in a net gain after further processing, and/or nuclear tunneling to show LENR effects. Admittedly, this is new territory and there is maybe a chance in a zillion that lithium has such an active bosonic unit (either a pair of atoms or more) - but - it could be worth a try to find out. The pair of lithium-6 atoms, if that is the most useful boson which can be found - might be amenable to a QM tunneling reaction to form carbon and give up about 30 MeV per atom in the process - but that is an even more remote possibility-- and even worse, if the excess energy turned out to be in the form of a neutrino, it would not be usable. Jones - Original Message From: R C Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Howdy Jones, Let's not stop too quick in conceptualizing fizzix-meshugga exploration of Lithium... consider the opposite of Lithium in the periodic table.. hmmm. can't be done one may say.. but by viewing the atomic weights as describing a spiral.. shazzamm.. what would be the element opposite to Lithium? We often refer to color as having opposites..they are not, colors are described by a prism which is spiral in it's mathematics, and I, personally , hear and visualize sound in a spiral configuration (rather than circular like a pebble dropping in water creates a circular ripple). Back to the primoral vortex.. it keeps peeking it's conical head into science.. ( pointy heads wouldn't understand) Waiting with baited anticipation for this subject to sorta spill over to include Bismuth... she's female . you know..the ancients knew! Richard Jones wrote, IOW the knowledge base for lithium, both in cosmology and in the lab, is weak enough to permit a fizzix-meshugga to explore around the edges - snooping for traces of somthing which has been overlooked (or intentionally hidden)... and given that almost all QM processess have been overlooked (compared to hot processes) in the past - that is more or less where I am attempting to go with this unfolding hypothesis about a possible pathway to clean energy from bosonic lithium.
Re: [Vo]:Dilithium pt2 The Immaculate Conception
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:04:01 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Cosmology: It should be noted that lithium is primordiual and was created in the big bang but carbon was not. [snip] The reaction:- He4 + D - Li6 + 1.47 MeV (gamma) has a very low reaction rate, but does exist. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Vo]:Dilithium pt2 The Immaculate Conception
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:25:27 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Admittedly, this is new territory and there is maybe a chance in a zillion that lithium has such an active bosonic unit (either a pair of atoms or more) - but - it could be worth a try to find out. The pair of lithium-6 atoms, if that is the most useful boson which can be found - might be amenable to a QM tunneling reaction to form carbon and give up about 30 MeV per atom in the process - but that is an even more remote possibility-- and even worse, if the excess energy turned out to be in the form of a neutrino, it would not be usable. [snip] There is no weak force reaction involved in the fusion of Li6 to C12, so the only way for a neutrino to be produced would be in the form of neutrino-anti-neutrino pair production. However I have never seen this reported as a means of removing energy from energetic nuclei, so if it exists, then it must be extremely rare, in which case it isn't likely to be a problem anyway. OTOH, if shrunken Li can exist, then it may be possible to remove the energy of the reaction through an IC (internal conversion) reaction, which becomes more likely, the smaller the electron orbital becomes. This is also what may make IC a likely energy removal option in CF reactions involving Hydrinos. The reason for raising this possibility at all is because while converting Li6 to C12 there are no hadrons left over, which normally implies energy removal through gamma ray emission. Although if the lattice loss mechanisms are correct, then perhaps it may turn up as heat in the lattice. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
