Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

2014-05-02 Thread Andy Findlay

  
  
Note also, that the first external link on the Mizuno page actually
names the lenr-canr site:

External links

  Nuclear
  Transmutation: The Reality of Cold Fusion - LENR-CANR
  Plasma
  Electrolysis
  Atomic Energy Society of
  Japan
  Japan Society
  of Applied Physics


Regards,
Andy.

On 01/05/14 19:37, Jed Rothwell wrote:


  

  James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
  

  Notice that the last 2 external links are
to your website.



Huh. I never noticed. Perhaps no one has clicked on
  them lately. I wasn't looking for links back to Wikipedia.
  Clearly, the blacklist has been lifted.


 


  

  Works
  by or about Richard Oriani in libraries (WorldCat catalog)

  



http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n85-8826

This one does net work.
  
  
  
- Jed
  
  

  


  




[Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

2014-05-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
I found a download link for papers by Oriani, pointing to this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_oriani

Someone deleted it soon after it was made.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

2014-05-01 Thread James Bowery
Please clarify your statement, Jed.  Why is the deletion of a Wikipedia
page for an improperly capitalized last name for

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Oriani

evidence that the vigilance of the Wikipedia editors is anything but
properly applied removal of redundance and misspelling?

Your answer has something to do with a download link for papers by Oriani
but your sentence is confusing.  Where did this download link appear?
 Where did this download link point?  Are you referring to a download link
pointing FROM the deleted page for Richard oriani TO Oriani's papers at
your website?  If so, your comment makes some sense.


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found a download link for papers by Oriani, pointing to this page:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_oriani

 Someone deleted it soon after it was made.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

2014-05-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

Please clarify your statement, Jed.  Why is the deletion of a Wikipedia
 page for an improperly capitalized last name for

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Oriani


Ah. There is another Wikipedia article. I did not know that. The one I
pointed to was deleted. It must have discussed his cold fusion work. I say
that because the person who deleted it said so, and because it had links to
LENR-CANR.org.

This other article isn't bad. It mentions cold fusion. It has no links to
his papers at LENR-CANR.org.

I was surprised to see any links because when I last checked, years ago,
you could not add links to LENR-CANR.org. Wikipedia automatically rejected
them, with some sort of blacklist.


Your answer has something to do with a download link for papers by Oriani
 but your sentence is confusing.


I mean that this came to my attention because people linked from Wikipedia
to LENR-CANR.org, and that showed up in the log.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

2014-05-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
I'll be darned. They have a page for Mizuno, and one for the ICCF
conferences too. The ICCF page was there years ago but someone deleted it.
It is back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadahiko_Mizuno

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_on_Cold_Fusion

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

2014-05-01 Thread Ian Walker
Hi all

To quote Bob: The Times they are a changing.

Kind Regards walker




On 1 May 2014 18:21, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll be darned. They have a page for Mizuno, and one for the ICCF
 conferences too. The ICCF page was there years ago but someone deleted it.
 It is back.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadahiko_Mizuno

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_on_Cold_Fusion

 - Jed




RE: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

2014-05-01 Thread John Newman
Looks like Wikipedia are fairly rigid.  See their entry for ee cummings

Rusty

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 May 2014 18:05
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

 

James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com mailto:jabow...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

Please clarify your statement, Jed.  Why is the deletion of a Wikipedia page 
for an improperly capitalized last name for 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Oriani

 

Ah. There is another Wikipedia article. I did not know that. The one I pointed 
to was deleted. It must have discussed his cold fusion work. I say that because 
the person who deleted it said so, and because it had links to LENR-CANR.org.

 

This other article isn't bad. It mentions cold fusion. It has no links to his 
papers at LENR-CANR.org.

 

I was surprised to see any links because when I last checked, years ago, you 
could not add links to LENR-CANR.org. Wikipedia automatically rejected them, 
with some sort of blacklist.

 

 

Your answer has something to do with a download link for papers by Oriani but 
your sentence is confusing.

 

I mean that this came to my attention because people linked from Wikipedia to 
LENR-CANR.org, and that showed up in the log.

 

- Jed

 



Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

2014-05-01 Thread James Bowery
Notice that the last 2 external links are to your website.

External 
links[edithttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Orianiaction=editsection=5editintro=Template:BLP_editintro
]

   - Oriani cell
effectshttp://pages.csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/cf/188oriani.html
   - Works by or about Richard
Orianihttp://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n85-8826 in
   libraries (WorldCat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldCat catalog)
   - Reproducible Evidence For The Generation Of A Nuclear Reaction During
   Electrolysis http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/OrianiRAreproducib.pdf
   - The Physical and Metallurgical Aspects of Hydrogen in
Metalhttp://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/OrianiRAthephysica.pdf



On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please clarify your statement, Jed.  Why is the deletion of a Wikipedia
 page for an improperly capitalized last name for

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Oriani


 Ah. There is another Wikipedia article. I did not know that. The one I
 pointed to was deleted. It must have discussed his cold fusion work. I say
 that because the person who deleted it said so, and because it had links to
 LENR-CANR.org.

 This other article isn't bad. It mentions cold fusion. It has no links to
 his papers at LENR-CANR.org.

 I was surprised to see any links because when I last checked, years ago,
 you could not add links to LENR-CANR.org. Wikipedia automatically rejected
 them, with some sort of blacklist.


 Your answer has something to do with a download link for papers by
 Oriani but your sentence is confusing.


 I mean that this came to my attention because people linked from Wikipedia
 to LENR-CANR.org, and that showed up in the log.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

2014-05-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

Notice that the last 2 external links are to your website.


Huh. I never noticed. Perhaps no one has clicked on them lately. I wasn't
looking for links back to Wikipedia. Clearly, the blacklist has been lifted.




- Works by or about Richard 
 Orianihttp://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n85-8826 in
libraries (WorldCat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldCat catalog)


http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n85-8826

This one does net work.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Ever-vigilant Wikipedia editors

2014-05-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

I'll be darned. They have a page for Mizuno, and one for the ICCF
 conferences too. The ICCF page was there years ago but someone deleted it.
 It is back.


The ICCF page was put up for deletion a year or so ago.  I voted against
deletion when I found out about it.  The vote was a close one.  There are
people there with strong opinions about what is science and what is not.
 These opinions obscure their objectivity with regard to questions about
what is noteworthy.  I pointed out that the conference is relevant to and
would be known by anyone with more than a passing interest in cold fusion,
even if cold fusion proved to be bunk.  I vaguely recall someone coming
back with a self-satisfied reply.  Over time I've come to learn that a
person's ability to come back with a quick retort has little to do with
their level of objectivity or understanding of a matter.

Eric