[Vo]:Focardi Rosssi-Off- Topic - What gets Funded/Cashed Out..very upsetting

2011-02-07 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex,

I still cannot  believe that Clorox acquired Burts Bees Wax for
925 million.  I tried to find some lower numbers, none were found. Will keep
looking..it is so incredible.
http://www.newser.com/article/d9l66eg00/clorox-2nd-quarter-earnings-fall-on-burts-bees-charge-revenue-declines-post-swine-flu.html

At a time we need alt alt energy funding..cold fusion...etc.

This is what the companies with the products  that we
buy are doing.

Will Forcardi and Rossi ever get close to that number???

Ron
The Huffington Post I think was just sold for 325 millionall at a time
when milld  east petroleum  problems can destroy the world economy.


Re: [Vo]:Focardi Rosssi-Off- Topic - What gets Funded/Cashed Out..very upsetting

2011-02-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 08:43 AM 2/7/2011, Ron Kita wrote:

Greetings Vortex,

I still cannot  believe that Clorox acquired Burts Bees Wax for
925 million.  I tried to find some lower numbers, none were found. 
Will keep looking..it is so incredible.

http://www.newser.com/article/d9l66eg00/clorox-2nd-quarter-earnings-fall-on-burts-bees-charge-revenue-declines-post-swine-flu.htmlhttp://www.newser.com/article/d9l66eg00/clorox-2nd-quarter-earnings-fall-on-burts-bees-charge-revenue-declines-post-swine-flu.html



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/business/06bees.html says $913 
million. Close enough for folk music.


the story is pretty simple:

From 2000 to 2007, Burt's Bees' annual revenue soared to $164 
million from $23 million.


They bought for less than six year's revenue, but also on an 
expectation that it would continue to grow. Apparently it has.


This isn't big money in big business. For perspective, it's only a 
few dollars for everyone in the U.S., and even further short if we 
consider the worldwide market.


Cold fusion money is waiting for a killer application. A lot of money 
has been spent trying to scale the effect up, without success, so 
far. Without a demonstrated theory that can be used to predict device 
behavior, engineering is very difficult, so the main task ahead of us 
is to reverse the general impression among theoretical physicists 
that CF is pure bogosity, because what's needed right now is far more 
intense theoretical work, leading to experimental predictions that 
are then tested.


The biggest loss in 1989-1990 was the possibility of massive 
theoretical investigation. To be fair, there wasn't enough evidence 
ready at first, that the ash was helium was not known and was not 
expected from the lack of gammas. But that situation shifted, and the 
Storms review, Status of cold fusion (2010), is crucial as a wedge 
into the consciousness of physicists. That review follows and seals 
an obvious publishing decision by Sprinter-Verlag and Elsevier to 
being publishing work in the field, and they are the two largest 
scientific publishers in the world.


From my point of view, the battle is over, but the enemy hasn't 
realized it yet. Shanahan is complaining that he can't get published 
any more. No negative reviews have been published in the last six 
years, only a single crank letter from Shanahan, that the Journal of 
Environmental Monitoring published, my guess, to bash the skeptics 
thoroughly and completely with the response that they copublished 
from the Most Notable Researchers in Cold Fusion, et al which 
was, for the editors, the End of the Question. Next case?