Re: [Vo]:How to make a 100 kV Lenard valve for deuterium fusion - idea
In reply to peter.heck...@arcor.de's message of Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:16:53 +0100 (CET): Hi, [snip] My thought is to improve the efficiency of this process. Generate 100 keV electrons or protons in a vacuum and shoot them directly in a lossless way into a /pressurized/ deuterium /stream/. I dont aim to discover something new, I just try to improve the efficiency of this known process. Both electrons or protons could be tried by reversing the polarity or by using AC high voltage. Peter Shooting fast protons into a gas (or any other matter) doesn't produce a positive energy balance. This is because the protons lose 99.99% of their energy stripping electrons from atoms, and most of the few that do get close to a nucleus get repelled by the electrostatic force. Only a very small number of actual fusion reactions occur. In fact this is how fusion was first discovered. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:How to make a 100 kV Lenard valve for deuterium fusion - idea
In reply to Peter Heckert's message of Sat, 03 Dec 2011 01:36:18 +0100: Hi, [snip] The other problem is, where to get deuterium in pressurized bottles ;-) [snip] That one isn't really a problem. Electrolysis can easily produce high gas pressures. You could do the entire experiment in the D collecting side of a DC electrolysis setup. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:How to make a 100 kV Lenard valve for deuterium fusion - idea
Am 04.12.2011 21:57, schrieb mix...@bigpond.com: In reply to Peter Heckert's message of Sat, 03 Dec 2011 01:36:18 +0100: Hi, [snip] The other problem is, where to get deuterium in pressurized bottles ;-) [snip] That one isn't really a problem. Electrolysis can easily produce high gas pressures. You could do the entire experiment in the D collecting side of a DC electrolysis setup. The problem is, the athmosphere must be absolutely dry. I have seen D2O costs about 1-3 Euro per milliliter. Possibly it works with dry D2O steam? The other problem is, when I get 2-3 Watt energy out of it, will I survive the neutrons and gammas? This is not cold fusion or LENR. Neutrons and radiation are expected ;-) Peter
Re: [Vo]:How to make a 100 kV Lenard valve for deuterium fusion - idea
In reply to Peter Heckert's message of Sun, 04 Dec 2011 22:23:08 +0100: Hi, [snip] The problem is, the athmosphere must be absolutely dry. I have seen D2O costs about 1-3 Euro per milliliter. Possibly it works with dry D2O steam? Pass the gas through a cold trap first? (cooled by liquid Nitrogen?) (or a desiccant?) The other problem is, when I get 2-3 Watt energy out of it, will I survive the neutrons and gammas? No. Run a Geiger counter next to it, and if you start to get high counts turn off the high voltage. BTW exactly which reactions are you looking for, and do you expect them to be brought about by high energy electrons or high energy ions? (If the former, please explain.) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:How to make a 100 kV Lenard valve for deuterium fusion - idea
- Original Nachricht Von: mix...@bigpond.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 05.12.2011 03:31 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:How to make a 100 kV Lenard valve for deuterium fusion - idea BTW exactly which reactions are you looking for, and do you expect them to be brought about by high energy electrons or high energy ions? (If the former, please explain.) I dont know. It is known that fusion with pyroelectric crystals in a low pressurized Deuterium gas works. This has been shown. It generates some 1000 neutrons on each stroke. My thought is to improve the efficiency of this process. Generate 100 keV electrons or protons in a vacuum and shoot them directly in a lossless way into a /pressurized/ deuterium /stream/. I dont aim to discover something new, I just try to improve the efficiency of this known process. Both electrons or protons could be tried by reversing the polarity or by using AC high voltage. Peter
