Re: [Vo]:More on Pycno

2010-01-22 Thread froarty572


on Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:08:39 -0800 Jones Beene said 
[snip] 
More basic query: Is there a progression of this phenomenon (which can be 
mistaken for Millsean shrinkage) whereby compound unnatural molecules seem 
to grow in mass and shrink in volume when in confinement ? IOW as they 
grow in mass to 6,8, and 10 amu and beyond - at the same time the unit also 
shrinks in effective dimension due to this same modality above: which is 
that the average positive nuclear charge is being spread out over a greater 
core volume, thus attracting valence electrons at tighter average dimension? 
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   Yes but Big M not small  m . The Naudts interpertation is a relativistic 
environment which includes Casimir cavities, defects in the lattice and even 
the interstitial spaces which act like tributaries. A  via forms between small 
cavities and lattice nuclei forming Casimir geometry where the resistance 
pressure to moving virtual particles Puthoff atomic model) accumulates beyond 
the ability of the small cavity to exhaust. This creates a  permanent venturi 
of virtual particles through the tributaries and out the cavities that is many 
time the nominal rate. I use the word rate cautiously since it may well be 
the rate at which virtual particles intersect with the spatial axis that 
defines our awareness of time. The point is the atom can remain stationary but 
experience equivalent motion as these VP permeate through it at an accelerated 
rate. Note this is different than the equivalent acceleration of a spaceship 
parked on a high G surface which we know slows time / rate of VP , I suggest 
that Catalytic action may represent the opposite case where the rate of VP 
permeating through the Present is increased. this makes us the spacefaring 
twin by comparison and we appear to slow down relative to an observer inside a 
catalyst. 

Fran

[Vo]:More on Pycno

2010-01-21 Thread Jones Beene
First, a basic factoid which may be of interest regarding deuterium loading
in the LENR active matrix, and the unexpected high density of what is being
called pycnodeuterium, following Arata's introduction of the term.

The atomic radius of deuterium is 78 pm (roughly spherical) while the
covalent radius is 30 x 45 pm (oblong) - a surprisingly large shrinkage
without any below-ground-state shenanigans; and yet the average charge is
unchanged - net neutral, but it is spread out over a larger core area so
that electrons are pulled-in more. In effect the atomic weight of the 'unit'
has doubled and the effective volume decreased by about 10 fold; so already
the apparent density is higher. 

Is this the start of a *trend* and does that trend continue with the
appearance of (putative) higher allotropes? 

When deuterium is loaded in an atomic ratio of 1:1 within a metal, it must
be in molecular form, and seldom atomic form, as was once thought (and
taught) since the molecule is so much smaller than the atom. Given what has
gone on in LENR over the years, this 1:1 ratio is probably a threshold level
for fusion to happen.

More basic query: Is there a progression of this phenomenon (which can be
mistaken for Millsean shrinkage) whereby compound unnatural molecules seem
to grow in mass and shrink in volume when in confinement ? IOW as they
grow in mass to 6,8, and 10 amu and beyond - at the same time the unit also
shrinks in effective dimension due to this same modality above: which is
that the average positive nuclear charge is being spread out over a greater
core volume, thus attracting valence electrons at tighter average dimension?


Note: the orbitals would thereby appear to be below ground state but that
is completely deceptive and unconnected to Mills' theory, since there is no
stability outside of the matrix confinement. 

This can be better worded: Could there be a novel mechanism, which can be
called confinement allotropy and previously not described in the
literature, whereby unnaturally large molecules of hydrogen and its isotopes
can be bound with moderate stability when within a metal matrix? 

A basic assumption is that the host matrix can absorb hydrogen without
strong binding into the valence 'smear' of the metal atoms, as in a true
hydride. That low binding level is a fine distinction, and the range of
binding energy required is not apparent.

When shuttled back and forth between open interstitial gaps in an active
zone - the kinetic activity of all bound species takes place as molecules
in these metals; and it follows that this cannot be limited to two atom
molecules in high loading situations. This outcome of more than two atoms in
a confined molecular allotrope is defensible for a number of experimental
reasons, primarily because Arata, Kitamura and several other replications
have seen stable loading above a 4:1 ratio. BTW this high ratio seems rock
solid, since there are numerous published and unpublished reports in the
same range. Note: tetrahedrons are a favored natural form - thus the average
near four may be no accident.

Bottom line, there should be significant amounts of D3 and D4 (and up) in
the LENR matrix (those being the first two confined allotropes and going
to the next semantic distinction: that is what pycno really consists of
(i.e. an unusual bound-allotrope, requiring confinement for longer term
stability). Next step: These new orbitals will need to mesh somehow with
classical orbital dynamics (s, p, d, f) presumably, so long as the
spectroscopic lines: sharp, principal, diffuse, and fundamental are
unchanged but heck, that is the least of the problems faced by this emergent
hypothesis.

More later,

Jones



Re: [Vo]:More on Pycno

2010-01-21 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 03:07 PM 1/21/2010, Jones Beene wrote:

When deuterium is loaded in an atomic ratio of 1:1 within a metal, it must
be in molecular form, and seldom atomic form, as was once thought (and
taught) since the molecule is so much smaller than the atom. Given what has
gone on in LENR over the years, this 1:1 ratio is probably a threshold level
for fusion to happen.


Holy moly! The biggest argument against Takahashi's Tetrahedral 
Symmetric Condensate Theory is the supposed rarity of the molecular 
form in the metal. If D2 is common, then, from his calculations, all 
it takes is some tiny occurrence of double confinement, two molecules 
in a lattice site, which will naturally assume the tetrahedral 
configuration, for a very short time, and the two collapse and fuse, 100%.


Is there any source confirming this statement about the molecular 
form in the metal?


If it's true, then real ratio for fusion is 2:1, but that would take 
place only in one site at a time, because it collapses and fuses 
within roughly a femtosecond, Takahashi's calculation. At 1:1, any 
attempt to increase the loading ratio would either cause lattice 
disruption -- the interatomic spacing of the metal would increase 
beyond some limit, internal voids forming, perhaps, so the true ratio 
in intact lattice would still be 1:1, or it would cause fusion, and 
the fusion rate would be proportional to how rapidly one could bump 
up the loading.


I wonder. What would happen if high pressure were applied to resist 
the disruption of the lattice by increased deuterium pressure? Could 
that be done? I mean *really high* pressure. What would this do to 
the predominant species, i.e., how does the molecular form sit in the 
lattice at 1:1? It would have to be occupying two sites, straddling 
them, one deuteron in one site, the other in the other, sharing their 
electrons. 



Re: [Vo]:More on Pycno

2010-01-21 Thread Horace Heffner


On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Jones Beene wrote:

First, a basic factoid which may be of interest regarding deuterium  
loading
in the LENR active matrix, and the unexpected high density of what  
is being

called pycnodeuterium, following Arata's introduction of the term.

The atomic radius of deuterium is 78 pm (roughly spherical) while the
covalent radius is 30 x 45 pm (oblong) - a surprisingly large  
shrinkage
without any below-ground-state shenanigans; and yet the average  
charge is
unchanged - net neutral, but it is spread out over a larger core  
area so
that electrons are pulled-in more. In effect the atomic weight of  
the 'unit'
has doubled and the effective volume decreased by about 10 fold; so  
already

the apparent density is higher.

Is this the start of a *trend* and does that trend continue with the
appearance of (putative) higher allotropes?

When deuterium is loaded in an atomic ratio of 1:1 within a metal,  
it must

be in molecular form, and seldom atomic form, as was once thought (and
taught) since the molecule is so much smaller than the atom. Given  
what has
gone on in LENR over the years, this 1:1 ratio is probably a  
threshold level

for fusion to happen.



A proton or deuteron is much smaller than an atom or a molecule.

There is a huge amount of evidence that absorbed hydrogen is exists  
rarely in molecular form.   Molecular form H2 greatly distorts the Pd  
lattice even in the octagonal sites.  It would be a very good idea to  
read a copy of Hydrogen in Metals III.


I worked out some of the geometry for various lattices here:

http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/AtomicExpansion.pdf

http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/CCP.pdf

I should have included drawings.  Just about all my articles need  
revisiting and reworking.  Now I'm even more depressed.  Sigh.


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/