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In Ni/H fusion reactions, it is likely that many protons form proton rich isotopes directly in a single cluster fusion process without interim buildup from interim lower Z fusions via multiple lower Z element fusion steps. Proton-rich isotopes will then decay via positron emission, in which a proton in the nucleus decays to a neutron, a positron and a neutrino. The daughter isotope has an atomic number one less than the parent. The associated 1 MeV positron based gamma would not be seen due to superaborber processes that downshift gamma to x-rays. In early E Cat experiments, positron gammas were seen as witnessed in Rossi's Patent application as follows [0035] The positron forms the electron antiparticle, and hence, as positrons impact against the nickel electrons, the electron-positron pairs are annihilated, thereby generating a huge amount of energy. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: ... whatever is producing the tritium has got to be a strange reaction pathway as well, because its certainly not commensurate with the excess heat either. I'm wondering whether tritium might occur through reactions such as the following: n + 6Li → t + 4He + Q (4.78 MeV) If there were a very small number of neutrons arising from spallations, you might get some tritium through channels such as these. The neutrons would be the gating factor, and if there are very few of them, you would even fewer reactions like this, as most neutrons would not encounter a lithium atom, and most lithium atoms would be 7Li rather than 6Li. I believe Ed would strongly disagree with this analysis, objecting that tritium has been seen when there is no lithium. But as in the previous case, I would want to closely examine such a statement. Ed would also say that any 3He found is a daughter of such tritium, which seems reasonable. Eric
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see reference: http://ecatsite.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/us20110249783a1.pdf On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: In Ni/H fusion reactions, it is likely that many protons form proton rich isotopes directly in a single cluster fusion process without interim buildup from interim lower Z fusions via multiple lower Z element fusion steps. Proton-rich isotopes will then decay via positron emission, in which a proton in the nucleus decays to a neutron, a positron and a neutrino. The daughter isotope has an atomic number one less than the parent. The associated 1 MeV positron based gamma would not be seen due to superaborber processes that downshift gamma to x-rays. In early E Cat experiments, positron gammas were seen as witnessed in Rossi's Patent application as follows [0035] The positron forms the electron antiparticle, and hence, as positrons impact against the nickel electrons, the electron-positron pairs are annihilated, thereby generating a huge amount of energy. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: ... whatever is producing the tritium has got to be a strange reaction pathway as well, because its certainly not commensurate with the excess heat either. I'm wondering whether tritium might occur through reactions such as the following: n + 6Li → t + 4He + Q (4.78 MeV) If there were a very small number of neutrons arising from spallations, you might get some tritium through channels such as these. The neutrons would be the gating factor, and if there are very few of them, you would even fewer reactions like this, as most neutrons would not encounter a lithium atom, and most lithium atoms would be 7Li rather than 6Li. I believe Ed would strongly disagree with this analysis, objecting that tritium has been seen when there is no lithium. But as in the previous case, I would want to closely examine such a statement. Ed would also say that any 3He found is a daughter of such tritium, which seems reasonable. Eric
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In reply to Foks0904 .'s message of Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:36:55 -0400: Hi, It's findings like this that have lead some people to the same conclusion: Multiple reaction pathways are taking place in one system (a cocktail of sorts). As a result, we see perpetual conflation of the FP Heat Effect (aka radiationless cold fusion) w/ whatever unusual hot fusion effect is being produced (i.e. like Axil linking LeClair's work to cold fusion, which is totally off-base, unless one is ready, at this early juncture, to adopt wholesale his hyper-speculative whispering quantum hall magic gamma shield hypothesis), perhaps by small-scale fracto-fusion, Casimir forces, cavitation, when conditions are right, and so on. That's just spit-balling though, because as we know the neutron-to-tritium ratio is not reflective of known hot fusion reactions in the slightest, so whatever is producing the tritium has got to be a strange reaction pathway as well, because its certainly not commensurate with the excess heat either. This is one of those mysteries that I have seen no theory adequately answer as of yet. [snip] If you are fissioning, and you need to get rid of neutrons (because heavier elements have an excess of neutrons compared to light elements), then you might create Tritium rather than free neutrons, because the high neutron to proton ratio of Tritium allows you to get rid of neutrons, while it is energetically more favourable to produce Tritium than to produce free neutrons. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
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The Reference to Neutron production is telling. This gives an area to research for others and a clue as to the process, eg one that is capable of producing Neutrons of an energy n. Neutron decay is: n0 → p+ + e− + νe. p and e could be the more important energy producers in LENR! What energy such Neutrons have and where they decay would be a significant proportion of the energy in the reaction; depending on the process that creates such supposed Neutrons. MFMP had gamma bursts in their experiments and that has been reliably repeated both by them selves and other labs. For some time I have thought they were the equivalent of a car back firing that poisons the LENR and that for the reaction to be stable that it had to be prevented as well as for possible health reasons. If the Neutrons are literally Low Energy Neutrons then if the decay with the reaction chamber, and I am talking nanometres here, then they sustain the reaction if they are higher energy they spit out beyond the reaction then we see the classic gamma burst from Neutron decay outside the reactor and such Neutrons don't feed the reaction. Now bear in mind that in such a reaction, Neutrons would probably be a bell curve of energies, some supporting the reaction other Neutrons exiting the reactor proper yet others decaying destructively to the LENR within reaction chamber THEN obtaining fine control of that Neutron energy is a goldilocks reaction! The porridge can be too HOT or too COLD but if it is just right the reaction maintains it self. Such a process of where the Neutrons decay would explain why LENR has been so hard to replicate reliably and Rossi's secret catalyst is an addition that catalyses and decays the neutron at the correct JUST RIGHT goldilocks level. On 18 September 2014 06:05, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of grasping for every little straw, there was an interesting post at E-Cat World: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/17/e-cat-rumor-from-a/ Congratulations go to Frank Acland for making this an indispensable site for news. Eric
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Hmm... Boron. On 18 September 2014 09:32, Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote: The Reference to Neutron production is telling. This gives an area to research for others and a clue as to the process, eg one that is capable of producing Neutrons of an energy n. Neutron decay is: n0 → p+ + e− + νe. p and e could be the more important energy producers in LENR! What energy such Neutrons have and where they decay would be a significant proportion of the energy in the reaction; depending on the process that creates such supposed Neutrons. MFMP had gamma bursts in their experiments and that has been reliably repeated both by them selves and other labs. For some time I have thought they were the equivalent of a car back firing that poisons the LENR and that for the reaction to be stable that it had to be prevented as well as for possible health reasons. If the Neutrons are literally Low Energy Neutrons then if the decay with the reaction chamber, and I am talking nanometres here, then they sustain the reaction if they are higher energy they spit out beyond the reaction then we see the classic gamma burst from Neutron decay outside the reactor and such Neutrons don't feed the reaction. Now bear in mind that in such a reaction, Neutrons would probably be a bell curve of energies, some supporting the reaction other Neutrons exiting the reactor proper yet others decaying destructively to the LENR within reaction chamber THEN obtaining fine control of that Neutron energy is a goldilocks reaction! The porridge can be too HOT or too COLD but if it is just right the reaction maintains it self. Such a process of where the Neutrons decay would explain why LENR has been so hard to replicate reliably and Rossi's secret catalyst is an addition that catalyses and decays the neutron at the correct JUST RIGHT goldilocks level. On 18 September 2014 06:05, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of grasping for every little straw, there was an interesting post at E-Cat World: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/17/e-cat-rumor-from-a/ Congratulations go to Frank Acland for making this an indispensable site for news. Eric
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Hmm... Lithium Hmm... Graphite and Beryllium or maybe a Hydrocarbon. Moderation may well be the key and granular size and percentage in the mix. On 18 September 2014 09:43, Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm... Boron. On 18 September 2014 09:32, Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote: The Reference to Neutron production is telling. This gives an area to research for others and a clue as to the process, eg one that is capable of producing Neutrons of an energy n. Neutron decay is: n0 → p+ + e− + νe. p and e could be the more important energy producers in LENR! What energy such Neutrons have and where they decay would be a significant proportion of the energy in the reaction; depending on the process that creates such supposed Neutrons. MFMP had gamma bursts in their experiments and that has been reliably repeated both by them selves and other labs. For some time I have thought they were the equivalent of a car back firing that poisons the LENR and that for the reaction to be stable that it had to be prevented as well as for possible health reasons. If the Neutrons are literally Low Energy Neutrons then if the decay with the reaction chamber, and I am talking nanometres here, then they sustain the reaction if they are higher energy they spit out beyond the reaction then we see the classic gamma burst from Neutron decay outside the reactor and such Neutrons don't feed the reaction. Now bear in mind that in such a reaction, Neutrons would probably be a bell curve of energies, some supporting the reaction other Neutrons exiting the reactor proper yet others decaying destructively to the LENR within reaction chamber THEN obtaining fine control of that Neutron energy is a goldilocks reaction! The porridge can be too HOT or too COLD but if it is just right the reaction maintains it self. Such a process of where the Neutrons decay would explain why LENR has been so hard to replicate reliably and Rossi's secret catalyst is an addition that catalyses and decays the neutron at the correct JUST RIGHT goldilocks level. On 18 September 2014 06:05, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of grasping for every little straw, there was an interesting post at E-Cat World: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/17/e-cat-rumor-from-a/ Congratulations go to Frank Acland for making this an indispensable site for news. Eric
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It is interesting to consider the higher COP. I went back and read Rossi Forcadi's original article, which is astounding in the level of energy production and COP. The most impressive result to me was .2 watts in and 83 watts out. It would be hard to make an error of that magnitude even with poor instrumentation. Or how about 5.1 watts in and 1006.5 watts out! Hopefully, Rossi's team took the brakes off of the E-cat, and we see some very high out/in ratios in TPR2. Would the skeptics be convinced with 10 watts in and 2000 watts out? ;) http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=62 On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:49 AM, Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm... Lithium Hmm... Graphite and Beryllium or maybe a Hydrocarbon. Moderation may well be the key and granular size and percentage in the mix. On 18 September 2014 09:43, Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm... Boron. On 18 September 2014 09:32, Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote: The Reference to Neutron production is telling. This gives an area to research for others and a clue as to the process, eg one that is capable of producing Neutrons of an energy n. Neutron decay is: n0 → p+ + e− + νe. p and e could be the more important energy producers in LENR! What energy such Neutrons have and where they decay would be a significant proportion of the energy in the reaction; depending on the process that creates such supposed Neutrons. MFMP had gamma bursts in their experiments and that has been reliably repeated both by them selves and other labs. For some time I have thought they were the equivalent of a car back firing that poisons the LENR and that for the reaction to be stable that it had to be prevented as well as for possible health reasons. If the Neutrons are literally Low Energy Neutrons then if the decay with the reaction chamber, and I am talking nanometres here, then they sustain the reaction if they are higher energy they spit out beyond the reaction then we see the classic gamma burst from Neutron decay outside the reactor and such Neutrons don't feed the reaction. Now bear in mind that in such a reaction, Neutrons would probably be a bell curve of energies, some supporting the reaction other Neutrons exiting the reactor proper yet others decaying destructively to the LENR within reaction chamber THEN obtaining fine control of that Neutron energy is a goldilocks reaction! The porridge can be too HOT or too COLD but if it is just right the reaction maintains it self. Such a process of where the Neutrons decay would explain why LENR has been so hard to replicate reliably and Rossi's secret catalyst is an addition that catalyses and decays the neutron at the correct JUST RIGHT goldilocks level. On 18 September 2014 06:05, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of grasping for every little straw, there was an interesting post at E-Cat World: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/17/e-cat-rumor-from-a/ Congratulations go to Frank Acland for making this an indispensable site for news. Eric
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Its pretty clear that the SPAWAR experiments saw high energy neutrons in their experiments, which were reasonable well funded. They also saw high energy protons and alphas. These were apparently hot fusion type reactions. However, they also saw what they called cold fusion--LENR--reactions that produced no gammas and apparently fused D-D to helium with a 24 Mev distribution of energy. They indicated that the gammas were suppressed and postulated a Mossbauer type effect which distributed the energy to the matrix. The correlation to excess energy is not spelled out in the 2009 presentation, however. It is only briefly discussed in one or two slides of the power point presentation. I remember it is discussed in more detail in another presentation which I do not have handy. Thus, SPAWAR seems to claim both hot fusion and cold fusion at the same time with respect to He formation. See a presentation of their results at: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=8ved=0CEwQFjAHurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnewenergytimes.com%2Fv2%2Flibrary%2F2009%2F2009SPAWAR-ET-AL-UM.pdfei=L-gaVMrfIcXdoASRmIGoDQusg=AFQjCNGB2CY_kaqEk7hfQgtKRwtrA3GWxgbvm=bv.75742615,d.cGU Bob - Original Message - From: Ian Walker To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:gossip from Paul, at E-Cat world Hmm... Lithium Hmm... Graphite and Beryllium or maybe a Hydrocarbon. Moderation may well be the key and granular size and percentage in the mix. On 18 September 2014 09:43, Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm... Boron. On 18 September 2014 09:32, Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote: The Reference to Neutron production is telling. This gives an area to research for others and a clue as to the process, eg one that is capable of producing Neutrons of an energy n. Neutron decay is: n0 → p+ + e− + νe. p and e could be the more important energy producers in LENR! What energy such Neutrons have and where they decay would be a significant proportion of the energy in the reaction; depending on the process that creates such supposed Neutrons. MFMP had gamma bursts in their experiments and that has been reliably repeated both by them selves and other labs. For some time I have thought they were the equivalent of a car back firing that poisons the LENR and that for the reaction to be stable that it had to be prevented as well as for possible health reasons. If the Neutrons are literally Low Energy Neutrons then if the decay with the reaction chamber, and I am talking nanometres here, then they sustain the reaction if they are higher energy they spit out beyond the reaction then we see the classic gamma burst from Neutron decay outside the reactor and such Neutrons don't feed the reaction. Now bear in mind that in such a reaction, Neutrons would probably be a bell curve of energies, some supporting the reaction other Neutrons exiting the reactor proper yet others decaying destructively to the LENR within reaction chamber THEN obtaining fine control of that Neutron energy is a goldilocks reaction! The porridge can be too HOT or too COLD but if it is just right the reaction maintains it self. Such a process of where the Neutrons decay would explain why LENR has been so hard to replicate reliably and Rossi's secret catalyst is an addition that catalyses and decays the neutron at the correct JUST RIGHT goldilocks level. On 18 September 2014 06:05, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of grasping for every little straw, there was an interesting post at E-Cat World: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/17/e-cat-rumor-from-a/ Congratulations go to Frank Acland for making this an indispensable site for news. Eric
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It's findings like this that have lead some people to the same conclusion: Multiple reaction pathways are taking place in one system (a cocktail of sorts). As a result, we see perpetual conflation of the FP Heat Effect (aka radiationless cold fusion) w/ whatever unusual hot fusion effect is being produced (i.e. like Axil linking LeClair's work to cold fusion, which is totally off-base, unless one is ready, at this early juncture, to adopt wholesale his hyper-speculative whispering quantum hall magic gamma shield hypothesis), perhaps by small-scale fracto-fusion, Casimir forces, cavitation, when conditions are right, and so on. That's just spit-balling though, because as we know the neutron-to-tritium ratio is not reflective of known hot fusion reactions in the slightest, so whatever is producing the tritium has got to be a strange reaction pathway as well, because its certainly not commensurate with the excess heat either. This is one of those mysteries that I have seen no theory adequately answer as of yet. Storms made a good go of it in his recent book (at the very least he recognizes and advertises this enigma) but we'll have to await reliable ash data from NiH before any reliable conclusions can be drawn. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Its pretty clear that the SPAWAR experiments saw high energy neutrons in their experiments, which were reasonable well funded. They also saw high energy protons and alphas. These were apparently hot fusion type reactions. However, they also saw what they called cold fusion--LENR--reactions that produced no gammas and apparently fused D-D to helium with a 24 Mev distribution of energy. They indicated that the gammas were suppressed and postulated a Mossbauer type effect which distributed the energy to the matrix. The correlation to excess energy is not spelled out in the 2009 presentation, however. It is only briefly discussed in one or two slides of the power point presentation. I remember it is discussed in more detail in another presentation which I do not have handy. Thus, SPAWAR seems to claim both hot fusion and cold fusion at the same time with respect to He formation. See a presentation of their results at: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=8ved=0CEwQFjAHurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnewenergytimes.com%2Fv2%2Flibrary%2F2009%2F2009SPAWAR-ET-AL-UM.pdfei=L-gaVMrfIcXdoASRmIGoDQusg=AFQjCNGB2CY_kaqEk7hfQgtKRwtrA3GWxgbvm=bv.75742615,d.cGU Bob - Original Message - *From:* Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:49 AM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:gossip from Paul, at E-Cat world Hmm... Lithium Hmm... Graphite and Beryllium or maybe a Hydrocarbon. Moderation may well be the key and granular size and percentage in the mix. On 18 September 2014 09:43, Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm... Boron. On 18 September 2014 09:32, Ian Walker walker...@gmail.com wrote: The Reference to Neutron production is telling. This gives an area to research for others and a clue as to the process, eg one that is capable of producing Neutrons of an energy n. Neutron decay is: n0 → p+ + e− + νe. p and e could be the more important energy producers in LENR! What energy such Neutrons have and where they decay would be a significant proportion of the energy in the reaction; depending on the process that creates such supposed Neutrons. MFMP had gamma bursts in their experiments and that has been reliably repeated both by them selves and other labs. For some time I have thought they were the equivalent of a car back firing that poisons the LENR and that for the reaction to be stable that it had to be prevented as well as for possible health reasons. If the Neutrons are literally Low Energy Neutrons then if the decay with the reaction chamber, and I am talking nanometres here, then they sustain the reaction if they are higher energy they spit out beyond the reaction then we see the classic gamma burst from Neutron decay outside the reactor and such Neutrons don't feed the reaction. Now bear in mind that in such a reaction, Neutrons would probably be a bell curve of energies, some supporting the reaction other Neutrons exiting the reactor proper yet others decaying destructively to the LENR within reaction chamber THEN obtaining fine control of that Neutron energy is a goldilocks reaction! The porridge can be too HOT or too COLD but if it is just right the reaction maintains it self. Such a process of where the Neutrons decay would explain why LENR has been so hard to replicate reliably and Rossi's secret catalyst is an addition that catalyses and decays the neutron at the correct JUST RIGHT goldilocks level. On 18 September 2014 06:05, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of grasping for every little straw, there was an interesting post at E-Cat World: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014
Re: [Vo]:gossip from Paul, at E-Cat world
Multiple reaction pathways are taking place in one system (a cocktail of sorts). As a result, we see perpetual conflation of the FP Heat Effect (aka radiationless cold fusion) w/ whatever unusual hot fusion effect is being produced (i.e. like Axil linking LeClair's work to cold fusion, which is totally off-base, unless one is ready, at this early juncture, to adopt wholesale his hyper-speculative whispering quantum hall magic gamma shield hypothesis), perhaps by small-scale fracto-fusion, Casimir forces, cavitation, when conditions are right, and so on. That's just spit-balling though, because as we know the neutron-to-tritium ratio is not reflective of known hot fusion reactions in the slightest, so whatever is producing the tritium has got to be a strange reaction pathway as well, because its certainly not commensurate with the excess heat either. This is one of those mysteries that I have seen no theory adequately answer as of yet. Storms made a good go of it in his recent book (at the very least he recognizes and advertises this enigma) but we'll have to await reliable ash data from NiH before any reliable conclusions can be drawn. Like spin, the cause of LENR is not symmetric; magnetic Anatole field projection has a definite direction. The way in which the magnetic projectors are configured has determining effect to what LENR reaction occurs. For example, the Peterson cell produces gamma and a unique transmutation ash foot print where heavy metals predominate.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MiXH4r-8iA What the NAE produces is based on the geometry that the NAE assumes and the primary directions that the anapole field is pointed. Densely packed NAE in a metal lattice will produce lots of heavy metals. A dilute NAE distribution (DGT) will produce light elements like boron, lithium, and beryllium. Gamma radiation mitigation must be engineered into the system as both DGT and Rossi have done.
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How a system behaves is determined by its interaction properties http://phys.org/tags/properties/. An important concept in condensed matter physics http://phys.org/tags/condensed+matter+physics/ for describing the energy distribution of electrons in solids is the Fermi surface http://phys.org/tags/surface/, named for Italian physicist Enrico Fermi. The existence of the Fermi surface is a direct consequence of the Pauli exclusion principle, which forbids two identical fermions from occupying the same quantum state simultaneously. Energetically, the Fermi surface divides filled energy levels from the empty ones. For electrons and other fermionic particles with isotropic interactions – identical properties in all directions - the Fermi surface is spherical. This is the normal case in nature and the basis for many physical phenomena, says Francesca Ferlaino from the Institute for Experimental Physics at the University of Innsbruck.* When the particle interaction is anisotropic – meaning directionally dependent – the physical behavior of a system is completely altered. Introducing anisotropic interactions can deform the Fermi surface and it is predicted to assume an ellipsoidal shape.* Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-09-physicists-insights-world-quantum-materials.html#jCp On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Multiple reaction pathways are taking place in one system (a cocktail of sorts). As a result, we see perpetual conflation of the FP Heat Effect (aka radiationless cold fusion) w/ whatever unusual hot fusion effect is being produced (i.e. like Axil linking LeClair's work to cold fusion, which is totally off-base, unless one is ready, at this early juncture, to adopt wholesale his hyper-speculative whispering quantum hall magic gamma shield hypothesis), perhaps by small-scale fracto-fusion, Casimir forces, cavitation, when conditions are right, and so on. That's just spit-balling though, because as we know the neutron-to-tritium ratio is not reflective of known hot fusion reactions in the slightest, so whatever is producing the tritium has got to be a strange reaction pathway as well, because its certainly not commensurate with the excess heat either. This is one of those mysteries that I have seen no theory adequately answer as of yet. Storms made a good go of it in his recent book (at the very least he recognizes and advertises this enigma) but we'll have to await reliable ash data from NiH before any reliable conclusions can be drawn. Like spin, the cause of LENR is not symmetric; magnetic Anatole field projection has a definite direction. The way in which the magnetic projectors are configured has determining effect to what LENR reaction occurs. For example, the Peterson cell produces gamma and a unique transmutation ash foot print where heavy metals predominate.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MiXH4r-8iA What the NAE produces is based on the geometry that the NAE assumes and the primary directions that the anapole field is pointed. Densely packed NAE in a metal lattice will produce lots of heavy metals. A dilute NAE distribution (DGT) will produce light elements like boron, lithium, and beryllium. Gamma radiation mitigation must be engineered into the system as both DGT and Rossi have done.
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On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: However, they also saw what they called cold fusion--LENR--reactions that produced no gammas and apparently fused D-D to helium with a 24 Mev distribution of energy. The discussion of a possible dd reaction (reaction 5, on slide 50), is a hypothetical one, talking about what might be going on. The title of the slide is Possible Nuclear Pathways. I doubt they are making a statement that they believe that dd fusion is going on; they seem to be suggesting that it is one of different possible reactions that might be happening in the systems they studied. Eric
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On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote: ... whatever is producing the tritium has got to be a strange reaction pathway as well, because its certainly not commensurate with the excess heat either. I'm wondering whether tritium might occur through reactions such as the following: n + 6Li → t + 4He + Q (4.78 MeV) If there were a very small number of neutrons arising from spallations, you might get some tritium through channels such as these. The neutrons would be the gating factor, and if there are very few of them, you would even fewer reactions like this, as most neutrons would not encounter a lithium atom, and most lithium atoms would be 7Li rather than 6Li. I believe Ed would strongly disagree with this analysis, objecting that tritium has been seen when there is no lithium. But as in the previous case, I would want to closely examine such a statement. Ed would also say that any 3He found is a daughter of such tritium, which seems reasonable. Eric
[Vo]:gossip from Paul, at E-Cat world
Speaking of grasping for every little straw, there was an interesting post at E-Cat World: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/17/e-cat-rumor-from-a/ Congratulations go to Frank Acland for making this an indispensable site for news. Eric
