RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:tungsten and atomic hydrogen
Jones, I totally agree that LOCAL motion exists proportional to applied heat in the MAHG and BLP process and even some motion due to ambient heat in the Life after death scenario of Arata where hydrogen is simply diffused through Pd nano powders. The point I was trying to make is that a dedicated circulation path can release more energy than the pumping energy required to move the gas by reducing the energy required to disassociate H2 when said molecules are migrating between different Casimir geometries (changing relativistic frames). I am suggesting that the disassociating energy used in the BLP device or MAHG device can be replaced by circulation. William Lynes came to this same conclusion in the late 90's and more recently published My Invention of the Atomic Furnace http://byzipp.com/LAHFeng.pdf in 2005 . Professor Moddel investigated this pumping energy requirement early on relating to the Haisch Moddel patent which circulates hydrogen through copper columns separated by insulated layers in the columns and found that opposition to the flow does not increase proportional to heat release. In my layman terms it is moving the drill body but it is gas law in tandem with changing relativistic frames that is actually spinning the drill - the atoms still respond to chaotic energy at the local level (think ac noise = vacuum flux) while the average dc levels vary inversely to the Casimir geometry /suppression. Again it all comes down to a posit that atoms in a molecular bond oppose change between Casimir geometry much more than an unbonded atom. Like The airplane we are at a point where a very fast and precise control loop is required to keep the ingredients near the disassociation point while moving relative to a changing Casimir geometry - It may take very careful thermal and chemical engineering to slowly elevate the output and energy extraction in a careful balance to keep the conditions viable or we will get the BLP runaway spike shown in the Rowan confirmations or a starved slow out gassing we see in the Life after death scenarios. Regards Fran From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:29 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:tungsten and atomic hydrogen Fran - That may not be precisely true. I think that there would be rapid local recirculation of hydrogen within the sputtered internal surface area (cavity to cavity) ... even though it is accurate that there is no dedicated circulation pathway in and out of the tube. From: Roarty, Francis X It was brought to my attention that there is no hydrogen circulation in the Moller's Atomic generator
Re: [Vo]:tungsten and atomic hydrogen
From: Roarty, Francis X Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:15 PM To: Roarty, Francis X Subject: [Vo]:tungsten and atomic hydrogen It was brought to my attention that there is no hydrogen circulation in the Moller's Atomic generator, I had it confused with the Lyne Atomic furnace. It looks like I should have read more on the MAHG page and less from William Lyne articles that claimed Moller took his ideas without proper citation. Lyne recognized both the need for circulation in the hydrogen furnace and the possibility of oscillation between bonding sates. Moller's MAHG only incorporated the oscillation between bonding states- I saw the water cooling pump from Naudins MAHG page in my mind and without reviewing the site assigned it a false memory of being a hydrogen pump like Lyne's furnace concept. As far as I can tell Lyne was the first to suggest this oscillation between bond states and also the first to recognize the importance of circulating the hydrogen to accelerate this oscillation between states - None of these ideas are really new - I have merely reinvented old ones like Lyne's recirculation of hydrogen, Haisch and Moddel's obvious recognition that Casimir cavities are just synthetic skeletal catalysts, and Naudts relativistic environment for hydrogen in a skeletal catalyst, which, when applied to the aforementioned relationship between synthetic catalysts and Casimir cavities, means that Casimir force should also be interpreted relativistically. Regards Fran [Vo]:tungsten and atomic hydrogen Roarty, Francis X Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:08:31 -0700 http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=3227mode=threadorder=0thold=0
RE: [Vo]:tungsten and atomic hydrogen
Fran - That may not be precisely true. I think that there would be rapid local recirculation of hydrogen within the sputtered internal surface area (cavity to cavity) . even though it is accurate that there is no dedicated circulation pathway in and out of the tube. From: Roarty, Francis X It was brought to my attention that there is no hydrogen circulation in the Moller's Atomic generator
[Vo]:tungsten and atomic hydrogen
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