Re: [Vo]:viktor Grebennikov

2019-03-12 Thread Axil Axil
Nigel, Congratulation...You have it right it part. There are two methods
that are active in LENR that operate in tandem. I will describe the flux
tube method below. The other method is the micro analog black hole method.

The condensate of polaritons produce two chiral counter rotating magnetic
spin flux tubes that produce the LENR reaction by disruption of the flux
tubes that confine quarks.

See

Coupled counter rotating polariton condensates in optically defined annular
potentials

http://www.pnas.org/content/111/24/8770

In ultra dense hydrogen(UDH), the petal polariton condensate forms in the
magnetic mirror that develops just outside the positive UDH core. Light
from a laser pulse serves to excite the polaritons by entangling photons
with electrons that surround the UDH core.



On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 6:05 PM Nigel Dyer  wrote:

> Chris
>
> I think you are right about the spin. Another probably related effect is
> the strange radiation seen by various Russian groups.  Perhaps the most
> relevant to the rotary motion physics is the fact that one of the
> generators of strange radiation is small peices of metal that are spun very
> very fast.  I am trying to get a good understanding of what we do, and do
> not, know about Lorentz transforms and the electroweak SU(2) theories.  I
> feel there is something going on with the link between spin and chirality
> and then the Higgs field.
>
> Nigel
> On 12/03/2019 20:53, Chris Zell wrote:
>
> You’re welcome.
>
>
>
> I have noticed that there a lot of gadgets claiming free energy thru the
> years that seem to be based on rotary motion being interrupted or
> modulated.  Maybe all the way back to Bessler.
>
> Stuff with slipping belts,  strange off center movements and so on.
> There’s also Linevich’s patent about unbalanced rotation – which he, in
> turn, claims to have developed from observing a defective pump shaking
> violently.
>
>
>
> If the Aspden effect is real, then it could easily be free energy – maybe
> derived from the spin within atoms transitioning from virtual to the real
> world.  I get the impression that particle spin might not be conservative
> as to the usual laws of thermodynamics.
>
>
>
> Is it possible that this effect exists and nobody ever noticed it
> formally?  Hard to believe but I can’t say it’s impossible.  I would think
> somebody in the inertial storage field might have noticed an anomaly.
>
>
>
> *From:* bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
> 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:10 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:viktor Grebennikov
>
>
>
> Many thanks to Ron, Chris and Fran for bringing  Aspden back into the
> light.
>
>
>
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> *From:* Ron Kita 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:46:38 AM
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:viktor Grebennikov
>
>
>
> Hi Fran,
>
>
>
> I find Grebenikov  most interesting. Birds gave us the concept of
> flight...and beetles gave us gravity  repulsion. Here is the lastest from
> last week on chiral dielectric and repulsive casimir forces.
> https://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevB.99.125403
> <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fphysics.aps.org%2Fsynopsis-for%2F10.1103%2FPhysRevB.99.125403=02%7C01%7CChrisZell%40wetmtv.com%7C9100fb9aef6b426622f208d6a71e6131%7C9e5488e2e83844f6886cc7608242767e%7C0%7C1%7C636880146259089746=lOdGSQ5Z0njftu%2F8YsjPxM%2FJ%2BkcXHhW1xHT70DYkraw%3D=0>
>
> If you look at Grebennikov you will see that he cites naphthalene for "odd
> effects". The benzene ring cavity is a resonator...and NASA has  a patent
> on it.
> https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/39/6d/f3/4955546c970788/US8696940.pdf
> <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatentimages.storage.googleapis.com%2F39%2F6d%2Ff3%2F4955546c970788%2FUS8696940.pdf=02%7C01%7CChrisZell%40wetmtv.com%7C9100fb9aef6b426622f208d6a71e6131%7C9e5488e2e83844f6886cc7608242767e%7C0%7C1%7C636880146259099754=jlMzkFTS%2BfAcXkoXaZvpWd2U0VQ9zQcuK50TQGCC4ts%3D=0>
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Re: [Vo]:viktor Grebennikov

2019-03-12 Thread Nigel Dyer

Chris

I think you are right about the spin. Another probably related effect is 
the strange radiation seen by various Russian groups. Perhaps the most 
relevant to the rotary motion physics is the fact that one of the 
generators of strange radiation is small peices of metal that are spun 
very very fast.  I am trying to get a good understanding of what we do, 
and do not, know about Lorentz transforms and the electroweak SU(2) 
theories.  I feel there is something going on with the link between spin 
and chirality and then the Higgs field.


Nigel

On 12/03/2019 20:53, Chris Zell wrote:


You’re welcome.

I have noticed that there a lot of gadgets claiming free energy thru 
the years that seem to be based on rotary motion being interrupted or 
modulated.  Maybe all the way back to Bessler.


Stuff with slipping belts,  strange off center movements and so on.   
There’s also Linevich’s patent about unbalanced rotation – which he, 
in turn, claims to have developed from observing a defective pump 
shaking violently.


If the Aspden effect is real, then it could easily be free energy – 
maybe derived from the spin within atoms transitioning from virtual to 
the real world.  I get the impression that particle spin might not be 
conservative as to the usual laws of thermodynamics.


Is it possible that this effect exists and nobody ever noticed it 
formally?  Hard to believe but I can’t say it’s impossible.  I would 
think somebody in the inertial storage field might have noticed an 
anomaly.


*From:* bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:10 PM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* RE: [Vo]:viktor Grebennikov

Many thanks to Ron, Chris and Fran for bringing  Aspden back into the 
light.


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*From:*Ron Kita mailto:chiralex.k...@gmail.com>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:46:38 AM
*To:* vortex-l
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:viktor Grebennikov

Hi Fran,

I find Grebenikov  most interesting. Birds gave us the concept of 
flight...and beetles gave us gravity  repulsion. Here is the lastest 
from last week on chiral dielectric and repulsive casimir forces. 
https://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevB.99.125403 
<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fphysics.aps.org%2Fsynopsis-for%2F10.1103%2FPhysRevB.99.125403=02%7C01%7CChrisZell%40wetmtv.com%7C9100fb9aef6b426622f208d6a71e6131%7C9e5488e2e83844f6886cc7608242767e%7C0%7C1%7C636880146259089746=lOdGSQ5Z0njftu%2F8YsjPxM%2FJ%2BkcXHhW1xHT70DYkraw%3D=0>


If you look at Grebennikov you will see that he cites naphthalene for 
"odd effects". The benzene ring cavity is a resonator...and NASA has  
a patent on it. 
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/39/6d/f3/4955546c970788/US8696940.pdf 
<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatentimages.storage.googleapis.com%2F39%2F6d%2Ff3%2F4955546c970788%2FUS8696940.pdf=02%7C01%7CChrisZell%40wetmtv.com%7C9100fb9aef6b426622f208d6a71e6131%7C9e5488e2e83844f6886cc7608242767e%7C0%7C1%7C636880146259099754=jlMzkFTS%2BfAcXkoXaZvpWd2U0VQ9zQcuK50TQGCC4ts%3D=0>


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IMHOgravity will be mastered in 2020...IF it wasn t conquered earlier.


On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 3:58 AM Roarty, Francis X 
mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com>> wrote:


  I almost dismissed the viktor grebennikov articles
but the cavity effect is intriguing and the videos Ive seen of the
way the beetle wing levitates above another wing looks similar to
meisner effect. It also fits into my pet theory that casimir
cavities can dialate ambient gas molecules in the cavities into
different relativistic states that act like brakes on inertia,
remember my relativistic interpretation of casimir effect.. that
all the virtual vacuum lengths still exist between casimir
geometry but are dialated to fit?  If the videos are true then
maybe mother nature figured out how to stack cavities without
cancelling out. I havent been able to find much new information or
synthetic cavity research, any suggestions or related? I would
have like to see a wing pair better isolated from the bench in
most videos – like on glass isolated and elovated up while one
wing levitates to eliminate some of the variables.



RE: [Vo]:viktor Grebennikov

2019-03-12 Thread Chris Zell
You're welcome.

I have noticed that there a lot of gadgets claiming free energy thru the years 
that seem to be based on rotary motion being interrupted or modulated.  Maybe 
all the way back to Bessler.
Stuff with slipping belts,  strange off center movements and so on.   There's 
also Linevich's patent about unbalanced rotation - which he, in turn, claims to 
have developed from observing a defective pump shaking violently.

If the Aspden effect is real, then it could easily be free energy - maybe 
derived from the spin within atoms transitioning from virtual to the real 
world.  I get the impression that particle spin might not be conservative as to 
the usual laws of thermodynamics.

Is it possible that this effect exists and nobody ever noticed it formally?  
Hard to believe but I can't say it's impossible.  I would think somebody in the 
inertial storage field might have noticed an anomaly.

From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:10 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:viktor Grebennikov

Many thanks to Ron, Chris and Fran for bringing  Aspden back into the light.

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From: Ron Kita mailto:chiralex.k...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:46:38 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:viktor Grebennikov

Hi Fran,

I find Grebenikov  most interesting. Birds gave us the concept of  flight...and 
beetles gave us gravity  repulsion. Here is the lastest from last week on 
chiral dielectric and repulsive casimir forces.  
https://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevB.99.125403<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fphysics.aps.org%2Fsynopsis-for%2F10.1103%2FPhysRevB.99.125403=02%7C01%7CChrisZell%40wetmtv.com%7C9100fb9aef6b426622f208d6a71e6131%7C9e5488e2e83844f6886cc7608242767e%7C0%7C1%7C636880146259089746=lOdGSQ5Z0njftu%2F8YsjPxM%2FJ%2BkcXHhW1xHT70DYkraw%3D=0>
If you look at Grebennikov you will see that he cites naphthalene for "odd 
effects". The benzene ring cavity is a resonator...and NASA has  a patent on 
it.   
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/39/6d/f3/4955546c970788/US8696940.pdf<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatentimages.storage.googleapis.com%2F39%2F6d%2Ff3%2F4955546c970788%2FUS8696940.pdf=02%7C01%7CChrisZell%40wetmtv.com%7C9100fb9aef6b426622f208d6a71e6131%7C9e5488e2e83844f6886cc7608242767e%7C0%7C1%7C636880146259099754=jlMzkFTS%2BfAcXkoXaZvpWd2U0VQ9zQcuK50TQGCC4ts%3D=0>
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  IMHOgravity will be mastered in 2020...IF it wasn t conquered earlier.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 3:58 AM Roarty, Francis X 
mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com>> wrote:
  I almost dismissed the viktor grebennikov articles but the cavity 
effect is intriguing and the videos Ive seen of the way the beetle wing 
levitates above another wing looks similar to meisner effect. It also fits into 
my pet theory that casimir cavities can dialate ambient gas molecules in the 
cavities into different relativistic states that act like brakes on inertia, 
remember my relativistic interpretation of casimir effect.. that all the 
virtual vacuum lengths still exist between casimir geometry but are dialated to 
fit?  If the videos are true then maybe mother nature figured out how to stack 
cavities without cancelling out. I havent been able to find much new 
information or synthetic cavity research, any suggestions or related? I would 
have like to see a wing pair better isolated from the bench in most videos - 
like on glass isolated and elovated up while one wing levitates to eliminate 
some of the variables.




RE: [Vo]:viktor Grebennikov

2019-03-12 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Many thanks to Ron, Chris and Fran for bringing  Aspden back into the light.

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From: Ron Kita 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:46:38 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:viktor Grebennikov

Hi Fran,

I find Grebenikov  most interesting. Birds gave us the concept of  flight...and 
beetles gave us gravity  repulsion. Here is the lastest from last week on 
chiral dielectric and repulsive casimir forces.  
https://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevB.99.125403
If you look at Grebennikov you will see that he cites naphthalene for "odd 
effects". The benzene ring cavity is a resonator...and NASA has  a patent on 
it.   
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/39/6d/f3/4955546c970788/US8696940.pdf
Ad astra, Ron Kita, Doylestown PA   http://www.chiralex.com  IMHOgravity 
will be mastered in 2020...IF it wasn t conquered earlier.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 3:58 AM Roarty, Francis X 
mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com>> wrote:
  I almost dismissed the viktor grebennikov articles but the cavity 
effect is intriguing and the videos Ive seen of the way the beetle wing 
levitates above another wing looks similar to meisner effect. It also fits into 
my pet theory that casimir cavities can dialate ambient gas molecules in the 
cavities into different relativistic states that act like brakes on inertia, 
remember my relativistic interpretation of casimir effect.. that all the 
virtual vacuum lengths still exist between casimir geometry but are dialated to 
fit?  If the videos are true then maybe mother nature figured out how to stack 
cavities without cancelling out. I havent been able to find much new 
information or synthetic cavity research, any suggestions or related? I would 
have like to see a wing pair better isolated from the bench in most videos – 
like on glass isolated and elovated up while one wing levitates to eliminate 
some of the variables.




Re: [Vo]:viktor Grebennikov

2019-03-12 Thread Ron Kita
Hi Fran,

I find Grebenikov  most interesting. Birds gave us the concept of
flight...and beetles gave us gravity  repulsion. Here is the lastest from
last week on chiral dielectric and repulsive casimir forces.
https://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevB.99.125403
If you look at Grebennikov you will see that he cites naphthalene for "odd
effects". The benzene ring cavity is a resonator...and NASA has  a patent
on it.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/39/6d/f3/4955546c970788/US8696940.pdf
Ad astra, Ron Kita, Doylestown PA   http://www.chiralex.com
IMHOgravity will be mastered in 2020...IF it wasn t conquered earlier.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 3:58 AM Roarty, Francis X 
wrote:

>   I almost dismissed the viktor grebennikov articles but the
> cavity effect is intriguing and the videos Ive seen of the way the beetle
> wing levitates above another wing looks similar to meisner effect. It also
> fits into my pet theory that casimir cavities can dialate ambient gas
> molecules in the cavities into different relativistic states that act like
> brakes on inertia, remember my relativistic interpretation of casimir
> effect.. that all the virtual vacuum lengths still exist between casimir
> geometry but are dialated to fit?  If the videos are true then maybe mother
> nature figured out how to stack cavities without cancelling out. I havent
> been able to find much new information or synthetic cavity research, any
> suggestions or related? I would have like to see a wing pair better
> isolated from the bench in most videos – like on glass isolated and
> elovated up while one wing levitates to eliminate some of the variables.
>
>
>
>
>


[Vo]:viktor Grebennikov

2019-03-12 Thread Roarty, Francis X
  I almost dismissed the viktor grebennikov articles but the cavity 
effect is intriguing and the videos Ive seen of the way the beetle wing 
levitates above another wing looks similar to meisner effect. It also fits into 
my pet theory that casimir cavities can dialate ambient gas molecules in the 
cavities into different relativistic states that act like brakes on inertia, 
remember my relativistic interpretation of casimir effect.. that all the 
virtual vacuum lengths still exist between casimir geometry but are dialated to 
fit?  If the videos are true then maybe mother nature figured out how to stack 
cavities without cancelling out. I havent been able to find much new 
information or synthetic cavity research, any suggestions or related? I would 
have like to see a wing pair better isolated from the bench in most videos - 
like on glass isolated and elovated up while one wing levitates to eliminate 
some of the variables.