Re: [Vo]:Food for thought?

2011-11-10 Thread Michele Comitini
Jones,

Is this paving the way to a new kind of doping in sports?  To be seen at
next Olympic Games! ;-)

mic
Il giorno 10/nov/2011 17:54, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net ha scritto:

 Need a break from Rossi madness? Slow slide into crazy? Do  you know about
 the Mental illness happy hour?

 Well those guys have learned that co-mingling wry humor (or rye humor, if
 after 5) with pathological science is a good place to start. To that end,
 here is an unauthorized episode.

 Start with a provocative science story, not quite pathological yet - and
 take it from there...

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45230351/ns/technology_and_science-science/

 The brain requires about 22 times as much energy to run as the equivalent
 in muscle tissue. The energy required ... comes from the food we eat. Human
 brains are three times larger than our closest living relative, the
 chimpanzee... but the two species have the same metabolic rateThis
 extra
 energy must be coming from somewhere.

 The so-called Expensive Tissue Hypothesis (ETH) of the authors tries to
 answer that, but of course, you will not find LENR or any alternative
 energy
 hypothesis considered. After all, they have to protect their
 phongna-balogna
 jobs. (as recipients of liberal largess)

 However, moving further down the slow slide into pathology -- if one
 suspects that some version of f/H (fractional hydrogen) could be partially
 involved (in human evolution) to boost the energy level of a standard diet
 -
 whether it involves the Mills' hydrino or an alternative hypothesis, then
 there is a place to search for answers. Look at the role of chemicals in
 the
 brain which have been associated with gainful systems in alternative
 energy,
 and cross-compare that with evolution and diet of proto-humans. Kind of a
 positive feedback loop.

 In this category, a prime suspect would be potassium. And the best fit in
 the periodic table for a Mills catalyst that does not require a plasma or 3
 body reaction, is molybdenum. Molybdenum cofactor is an enzyme intimately
 associated with neurochemistry. Can we connect the dots?

 Not really but, speaking of evolution in the context of splitting-off from
 the line of the aforementioned chimpanzee ... with the realization that a
 top dietary source of potassium is bananas. Bananas made apes what they are
 today, so to speak, but there were more choices on the horizon. Voila... we
 now have our pathological rationale for the 'out of Africa' migrations.
 They
 were not an effect of advancing mentality - but instead were partially the
 cause (dietary cause). A search for more and better f/H catalysts.

 Say James, when is the BBC going to revive Connections?

 Anyway, it could be coincidental but hominids really started to evolve
 rapidly, especially in the cultural context, when they learned about the
 other prime potassium sources: figs, dates, raisins, apricots, melons and
 wine. Generally these source thrive further north than ape country.

 Matter-of-fact: figs, dates, raisins, apricots, melons and wine ... sounds
 coincidentally like happy hour at a mid-Eastern restaurant, no?

 Is it five yet?

 Jones







Re: [Vo]:Food for thought?

2011-11-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 Start with a provocative science story, not quite pathological yet - and
 take it from there...

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45230351/ns/technology_and_science-science/

Not to mention a provocative picture with a provocative caption.
Ana's organ measurements appear to be comprehensive.  Journalistic
joke?

Run your brain on hydrinos if you please.  I prefer positron thinking.

T



RE: [Vo]:Food for thought?

2011-11-10 Thread Jones Beene
Potassium doping in the Olympics? … well, “Special K” humor aside, it’s 
remotely possible.

 

Not sure what sports would benefit from a slight mental advantage, but now that 
they have badminton and ping-pong, who knows what is next? I never thought that 
“doping” would be such a big issue in cycling, but apparently every small 
advantage helps at the top level in any sport.

 

Hmmm… might take a few hundred generations for dietary brain nutrients to 
demonstrate any advantage, but one thing is for sure. You can’t say “potassium” 
without saying “pot” … g

 

 

From: Michele Comitini 

 

Jones,

Is this paving the way to a new kind of doping in sports?  To be seen at next 
Olympic Games! 

;-)

mic

Il giorno 10/nov/2011 17:54, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net ha scritto:

Need a break from Rossi madness? Slow slide into crazy? Do  you know about
the Mental illness happy hour?

Well those guys have learned that co-mingling wry humor (or rye humor, if
after 5) with pathological science is a good place to start. 



Re: [Vo]:Food for thought?

2011-11-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
 Potassium doping in the Olympics? … well, “Special K” humor aside, it’s
 remotely possible.

I'd believe anything after learning a caterpillar fungus helped set
Olympic records:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiocordyceps_sinensis

The Western world was largely unaware of Ophiocordyceps prior to
1993. The fungus dramatically caught the world's eyes due to the
performance of three female Chinese athletes, Wang Junxia, Qu Yunxia,
and Zhang Linli. These athletes broke 5 world records for 1,500, 3,000
and 10,000 meters at the National Games in Beijing, China.

T



Re: [Vo]:Food for thought?

2011-11-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Energy is primarly the stuff of dreams, and dreams are not limited by
the laws of nature.

Harry

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
 Need a break from Rossi madness? Slow slide into crazy? Do  you know about
 the Mental illness happy hour?

 Well those guys have learned that co-mingling wry humor (or rye humor, if
 after 5) with pathological science is a good place to start. To that end,
 here is an unauthorized episode.

 Start with a provocative science story, not quite pathological yet - and
 take it from there...

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45230351/ns/technology_and_science-science/

 The brain requires about 22 times as much energy to run as the equivalent
 in muscle tissue. The energy required ... comes from the food we eat. Human
 brains are three times larger than our closest living relative, the
 chimpanzee... but the two species have the same metabolic rateThis extra
 energy must be coming from somewhere.

 The so-called Expensive Tissue Hypothesis (ETH) of the authors tries to
 answer that, but of course, you will not find LENR or any alternative energy
 hypothesis considered. After all, they have to protect their phongna-balogna
 jobs. (as recipients of liberal largess)

 However, moving further down the slow slide into pathology -- if one
 suspects that some version of f/H (fractional hydrogen) could be partially
 involved (in human evolution) to boost the energy level of a standard diet -
 whether it involves the Mills' hydrino or an alternative hypothesis, then
 there is a place to search for answers. Look at the role of chemicals in the
 brain which have been associated with gainful systems in alternative energy,
 and cross-compare that with evolution and diet of proto-humans. Kind of a
 positive feedback loop.

 In this category, a prime suspect would be potassium. And the best fit in
 the periodic table for a Mills catalyst that does not require a plasma or 3
 body reaction, is molybdenum. Molybdenum cofactor is an enzyme intimately
 associated with neurochemistry. Can we connect the dots?

 Not really but, speaking of evolution in the context of splitting-off from
 the line of the aforementioned chimpanzee ... with the realization that a
 top dietary source of potassium is bananas. Bananas made apes what they are
 today, so to speak, but there were more choices on the horizon. Voila... we
 now have our pathological rationale for the 'out of Africa' migrations. They
 were not an effect of advancing mentality - but instead were partially the
 cause (dietary cause). A search for more and better f/H catalysts.

 Say James, when is the BBC going to revive Connections?

 Anyway, it could be coincidental but hominids really started to evolve
 rapidly, especially in the cultural context, when they learned about the
 other prime potassium sources: figs, dates, raisins, apricots, melons and
 wine. Generally these source thrive further north than ape country.

 Matter-of-fact: figs, dates, raisins, apricots, melons and wine ... sounds
 coincidentally like happy hour at a mid-Eastern restaurant, no?

 Is it five yet?

 Jones








Re: [Vo]:Food for thought?

2011-11-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I do not know about this hypothesis, but it is well-established that the
human brain takes enormous amounts of energy, and this has had a major
impact on human evolution. Having a large brain is a tremendous burden.
That is probably why there are few other highly intelligent species. During
the evolution of the brain, humans discovered various ways to acquire much
more nutrition than they had previously. If they had not, the burden of the
energy drain would probably have cut off this line of development.

The increased nutrition is generally thought to have come from two
developments, both the consequence of increased intelligence.

First, people began making cutting tools not much different from the tools
that modern chimpanzees use. These tools were probably used to crack bones
to eat the marrow. Some paleontologists believe that these bones were
mainly scavenged from large predators. That is to say, a lion would kill an
animal, and after it left the carcass, humans would come and crack the
bones with stones to eat the marrow. As intelligence increased, these tools
improved and could be used for much more complicated food gathering
activities such as hunting or stripping meat off the bone.

Second, people discovered fire and cooking. This gives an enormous boost in
nutrition. You get much more nutrition out of the foods you eat when you
cook them. Many species, including people, prefer cooked food to raw food.
When you feed rats a diet of cooked food rather than a natural diet, they
tend to get fat. If we did not have cooking I do not think we would have
survived with such large brains.

Once we developed cooking, the survival of the species was assured, despite
the large energy cost of a large brain.

See Catching Fire: How Cooking Made Us Human by R. Wrangham.

- Jed