Jones,
                I totally agree that LOCAL motion exists  proportional to 
applied heat in the MAHG and BLP process and even some motion due to ambient 
heat in the "Life after death" scenario of Arata where hydrogen is simply 
diffused through Pd nano powders. The point I was trying to make is that a 
dedicated circulation path can release more energy than the pumping energy 
required to move the gas by reducing the energy required to disassociate H2 
when said molecules are migrating between different Casimir geometries 
(changing relativistic frames). I am suggesting that the disassociating energy 
used in the BLP device or MAHG device can be replaced by circulation. William 
Lynes came to this same conclusion in the late 90's and more recently published 
"My Invention of the Atomic Furnace"  http://byzipp.com/LAHFeng.pdf  in 2005 . 
Professor Moddel investigated this pumping energy requirement early on relating 
to the Haisch Moddel patent which circulates hydrogen through copper columns 
separated by insulated layers in the columns and found that opposition to the 
flow does not increase proportional to heat release. In my layman terms it is 
moving the drill body but it is gas law in tandem with changing relativistic 
frames that is actually spinning the drill - the atoms still respond to chaotic 
energy at the local level (think ac noise = vacuum flux) while the "average" dc 
levels vary inversely to the Casimir geometry /suppression. Again it all comes 
down to a posit that atoms in a molecular bond  oppose change between Casimir 
geometry much more than an unbonded atom. Like The airplane we are at a point 
where a very fast and precise control loop is required to keep the ingredients 
near the disassociation point while moving relative to a changing Casimir 
geometry - It may take very careful thermal and chemical engineering to slowly 
elevate the output and energy extraction in a careful balance to keep the 
conditions viable or we will get the BLP runaway spike shown in the Rowan 
confirmations or a starved slow out gassing we see in the "Life after death" 
scenarios.
Regards
Fran

From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 4:29 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:tungsten and atomic hydrogen

Fran - That may not be precisely true.

I think that there would be rapid local recirculation of hydrogen within the 
sputtered internal surface area (cavity to cavity) ... even though it is 
accurate that there is no dedicated circulation pathway in and out of the tube.


From: Roarty, Francis X

It was brought to my attention that there is no hydrogen circulation in the 
Moller's Atomic generator


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