Re: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17
Friday, August 17 at 10am -- near the end of the ICCF-17 program -- is the scheduled time of the Defkalion presentation. http://www.iccf17.org/program.php On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Daniel, I know the future but like a lady called Cassandra I am not believed. Defkalion is in Canada on a financially safe territory next week they shal be at the great National Instruments meeting and they will make presentations at ICCF-17. Let's discuss when you have read these, OK? Peter On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote: Peter, Are you saying that the will *surely* convince? Or just that they will only try. I mean, it's only a presentation, it doesn't seem that there is an ongoing open experiment with large and famous research institutes/companies. 2012/8/1 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com Defkalion will also convince the public that its technology works. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17
Peter; The systematic careful detailed analysis you seek will likely happen in overwhelming quantity and quality if Defkalion or Rossi publish independent 3rd party tests and do definitive demonstrations. The idea that they could do the above and don't leads to paralysis and very real and legitimate doubt as to this reality. That is all that is now missing. Ransom - Original Message - From: Peter Gluck To: CMNS ; VORTEX Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:50 AM Subject: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17 Dear Friends, I have written an Open Letter to ICCF-17- http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/08/open-letter-to-iccf-17.html It is a co-product of my discontent due to how the LENR field is progressing and of my desire to help. Appreciations, critics and even insults are all welcome, being forms of popularity and attention. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17
You are not kidding, it will soon be a year since Rossi's big test. I worked for and was at meetings with a big utility. Independent tests mean a lot. The lack of such is a disappointment. Increasingly bigger claims is no substitute for independent tests. The claim of 600 deg F then 1000 deg F reminds me of an earlier period in new energy. Henry Morray was one such inventor. His device not only produced limitless free energy but it also picked up the weakest far away radio signals. The addition claim of radio sensitivity was no substitute for an independent test. Frank Znidarsic Peter; The systematic careful detailed analysis you seek will likely happen in overwhelming quantity and quality if Defkalion or Rossi publish independent 3rd party tests and do definitive demonstrations. The idea that they could do the above and don't leads to paralysis and very real and legitimate doubt as to this reality. That is all that is now missing. Ransom -Original Message- From: Randy Wuller rwul...@freeark.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Aug 1, 2012 10:02 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17 Peter; The systematic careful detailed analysis you seek will likely happen in overwhelming quantity and quality if Defkalion or Rossi publish independent 3rd party tests and do definitive demonstrations. The idea that they could do the above and don't leads to paralysis and very real and legitimate doubt as to this reality. That is all that is now missing. Ransom - Original Message - From: Peter Gluck To: CMNS ; VORTEX Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:50 AM Subject: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17 Dear Friends, I have written an Open Letter to ICCF-17- http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/08/open-letter-to-iccf-17.html It is a co-product of my discontent due to how the LENR field is progressing and of my desire to help. Appreciations, critics and even insults are all welcome, being forms of popularity and attention. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17
It was not Fahrenheit, it was Celsius! 2012/8/1 fznidar...@aol.com You are not kidding, it will soon be a year since Rossi's big test. I worked for and was at meetings with a big utility. Independent tests mean a lot. The lack of such is a disappointment. Increasingly bigger claims is no substitute for independent tests. The claim of 600 deg F then 1000 deg F reminds me of an earlier period in new energy. Henry Morray was one such inventor. His device not only produced limitless free energy but it also picked up the weakest far away radio signals. The addition claim of radio sensitivity was no substitute for an independent test. Frank Znidarsic Peter; The systematic careful detailed analysis you seek will likely happen in overwhelming quantity and quality if Defkalion or Rossi publish independent 3rd party tests and do definitive demonstrations. The idea that they could do the above and don't leads to paralysis and very real and legitimate doubt as to this reality. That is all that is now missing. Ransom -Original Message- From: Randy Wuller rwul...@freeark.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Aug 1, 2012 10:02 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17 Peter; The systematic careful detailed analysis you seek will likely happen in overwhelming quantity and quality if Defkalion or Rossi publish independent 3rd party tests and do definitive demonstrations. The idea that they could do the above and don't leads to paralysis and very real and legitimate doubt as to this reality. That is all that is now missing. Ransom - Original Message - *From:* Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com *To:* CMNS c...@googlegroups.com ; VORTEX vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:50 AM *Subject:* [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17 Dear Friends, I have written an Open Letter to ICCF-17- http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/08/open-letter-to-iccf-17.html It is a co-product of my discontent due to how the LENR field is progressing and of my desire to help. Appreciations, critics and even insults are all welcome, being forms of popularity and attention. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17
Frank,
That was 600 C and 1000 C and not F...
On Wednesday, August 1, 2012, wrote:
You are not kidding, it will soon be a year since Rossi's big test. I
worked for and was at meetings with a big utility. Independent tests mean
a lot. The lack of such is a disappointment.
Increasingly bigger claims is no substitute for independent tests. The
claim of 600 deg F then 1000 deg F reminds me of an earlier period in new
energy.
Henry Morray was one such inventor. His device not only
produced limitless free energy but it also picked up the weakest far away
radio signals. The addition claim of radio sensitivity was no substitute
for an independent test.
Frank Znidarsic
Peter;
The systematic careful detailed analysis you seek will likely happen in
overwhelming quantity and quality if Defkalion or Rossi publish independent
3rd party tests and do definitive demonstrations. The idea that they could
do the above and don't leads to paralysis and very real and legitimate
doubt as to this reality. That is all that is now missing.
Ransom
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Subject: Re: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17
Peter;
The systematic careful detailed analysis you seek will likely happen in
overwhelming quantity and quality if Defkalion or Rossi publish independent
3rd party tests and do definitive demonstrations. The idea that they could
do the above and don't leads to paralysis and very real and legitimate
doubt as to this reality. That is all that is now missing.
Ransom
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*Subject:* [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17
Dear Friends,
I have written an Open Letter to ICCF-17-
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/08/open-letter-to-iccf-17.html
It is a co-product of my discontent due to how the LENR field is
progressing
and of my desire to help.
Appreciations, critics and even insults are all welcome, being forms of
popularity and attention.
Peter
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17
Dear Randy, I think Defkalion will explain their understanding of the process- in some extent at ICCF-17. I hope that the participants will listen with empathy even if some old truths will be contradicted, actually by facts. Defkalion will also convince the public that its technology works. Re Rossi- he is not predictible and perhaps he does not define correctly what is secret in his technology. And he is not interested in collaboati ng with scientists, except for publicity- at least it seems so. Peter On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Randy Wuller rwul...@freeark.com wrote: ** Peter; The systematic careful detailed analysis you seek will likely happen in overwhelming quantity and quality if Defkalion or Rossi publish independent 3rd party tests and do definitive demonstrations. The idea that they could do the above and don't leads to paralysis and very real and legitimate doubt as to this reality. That is all that is now missing. Ransom - Original Message - *From:* Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com *To:* CMNS c...@googlegroups.com ; VORTEX vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:50 AM *Subject:* [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17 Dear Friends, I have written an Open Letter to ICCF-17- http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/08/open-letter-to-iccf-17.html It is a co-product of my discontent due to how the LENR field is progressing and of my desire to help. Appreciations, critics and even insults are all welcome, being forms of popularity and attention. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17
Peter, Are you saying that the will *surely* convince? Or just that they will only try. I mean, it's only a presentation, it doesn't seem that there is an ongoing open experiment with large and famous research institutes/companies. 2012/8/1 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com Defkalion will also convince the public that its technology works.
Re: [Vo]:Open Letter to ICCF-17
Dear Daniel, I know the future but like a lady called Cassandra I am not believed. Defkalion is in Canada on a financially safe territory next week they shal be at the great National Instruments meeting and they will make presentations at ICCF-17. Let's discuss when you have read these, OK? Peter On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, Are you saying that the will *surely* convince? Or just that they will only try. I mean, it's only a presentation, it doesn't seem that there is an ongoing open experiment with large and famous research institutes/companies. 2012/8/1 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com Defkalion will also convince the public that its technology works. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
