RE: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment
Jed— To answer your question to me: “Are you trying to pick a fight about an undergraduate paper in Sapporo?” The answer is NO. Its your translation of the paper that I question. I only am asking about YOUR OWN translation/interpretation of the subject verification of Mizuno work. I do not read Japanese. I found your translation confusing, given the text that immediately followed the Figure 1 diagram. Your use of the phrase “this new hydrogen energy from fusion” in this text translation was the confusing part of the translation. I read about 95 % of Vortex-l threads, and its not a matter of like or dislike. The determination of my attention to any particular thread is based on the credibility of the source of the information being presented. Bob Cook -- From: Jed Rothwell<mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 7:22 AM To: Vortex<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com> mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com>> wrote: “Figure 1. Principle of nuclear fusion. (Deuterium and tritium are shown undergoing fusion to produce energy, neutrons and helium.)” “In the present study, by using this new hydrogen energy from fusion, we hope to confirm a new power generation method that may replace conventional power generation methods, such as thermal power, hydropower, nuclear power, wind power, and solar power generation. The purpose is to obtain an input/output ratio of energy two times or more higher than input.” Was the report merely obfuscation and fake news from your perspective, in that, as you point out, Mizuno does not use tritium? I do not understand what you are talking about. Of course he does not use tritium. There is no mention of using tritium in this paper, or any of his other papers, or any papers in the cold fusion literature as far I recall. Many experiments produce tritium, but I have never heard of anyone starting with it. Figure 1 shows conventional plasma fusion, as I am sure you realize. I don't understand what you are saying, and I don't understand why you are saying it. Are you trying to pick a fight about an undergraduate paper in Sapporo? It seems pretty good to me. If you don't like it, don't read it. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment
bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: > “Figure 1. Principle of nuclear fusion. (Deuterium and tritium are shown > undergoing fusion to produce energy, neutrons and helium.)” > > > > “In the present study, by using this new hydrogen energy from fusion, we > hope to confirm a new power generation method that may replace conventional > power generation methods, such as thermal power, hydropower, nuclear power, > wind power, and solar power generation. The purpose is to obtain an > input/output ratio of energy two times or more higher than input.” > > > > Was the report merely obfuscation and fake news from your perspective, in > that, as you point out, Mizuno does not use tritium? > I do not understand what you are talking about. Of course he does not use tritium. There is no mention of using tritium in this paper, or any of his other papers, or any papers in the cold fusion literature as far I recall. Many experiments produce tritium, but I have never heard of anyone starting with it. Figure 1 shows conventional plasma fusion, as I am sure you realize. I don't understand what you are saying, and I don't understand why you are saying it. Are you trying to pick a fight about an undergraduate paper in Sapporo? It seems pretty good to me. If you don't like it, don't read it. - Jed
RE: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment
Jed— You noted originally in the subject Vortex thread: “Here is a short paper describing a verification of Mizuno's experiment at the Hokkaido University of Science. This document includes an English version and the original Japanese version. “ The English translation indicates you did the translation of the so-called verification experiment. The following explanations of the experiment are included: “Figure 1. Principle of nuclear fusion. (Deuterium and tritium are shown undergoing fusion to produce energy, neutrons and helium.)” “In the present study, by using this new hydrogen energy from fusion, we hope to confirm a new power generation method that may replace conventional power generation methods, such as thermal power, hydropower, nuclear power, wind power, and solar power generation. The purpose is to obtain an input/output ratio of energy two times or more higher than input.” Was the report merely obfuscation and fake news from your perspective, in that, as you point out, Mizuno does not use tritium? Bob Cook Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 2:31 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment The report of the Hokkaido experiment with deuterium and tritium in a nano nickel lattice is a first description of such a reactor to my knowledge. TRITIUM AS A FUEL IS NEW! To me. The report makes note of the difficulty of getting deuterium—what about getting and managing tritium, which is radioactive and would explain the radioactivity the researchers noted at page 7 of the English translation? I am very surprised that Mizuno uses tritium. Bob Cook From: Frank Grimer<mailto:88.fr...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 4:25 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment I'm not surprised he is being successful. If I'd been him I would have let the experiment (he describes in his book) that was running away continue and blow up the lab. It would have been confirmation of the P experiment where they blew a hole in the lab bench. On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 23:13, Jed Rothwell mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>> wrote: Here is a short paper describing a verification of Mizuno's experiment at the Hokkaido University of Science. This document includes an English version and the original Japanese version. https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IgarashiJdevelopmen.pdf
Re: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment
bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: I am very surprised that Mizuno uses tritium. > He does not.
Re: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment
Dear Bob, This is just the Japanese conformist behavior. As the standard model freaks only (suppose to!!) know one working path to fusion they use their language for not offending the officials of the university. They did only use Deuterium & Protium of course as the text shows. Everything else would be outraging nonsense. But one thing is obvious. If you don't know how to manage a LENR reaction, then you rarely get a higher COP. Mizuno just once has been lucky - nothing else. J.W. Am 15.05.20 um 23:31 schrieb bobcook39...@hotmail.com: The report of the Hokkaido experiment with deuterium and tritium in a nano nickel lattice is a first description of such a reactor to my knowledge. TRITIUM AS A FUEL IS NEW! To me. The report makes note of the difficulty of getting deuterium—what about getting and managing tritium, which is radioactive and would explain the radioactivity the researchers noted at page 7 of the English translation? I am very surprised that Mizuno uses tritium. Bob Cook *From: *Frank Grimer <mailto:88.fr...@gmail.com> *Sent: *Thursday, May 14, 2020 4:25 PM *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment I'm not surprised he is being successful. If I'd been him I would have let the experiment (he describes in his book) that was running away continue and blow up the lab. It would have been confirmation of the P experiment where they blew a hole in the lab bench. On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 23:13, Jed Rothwell <mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>> wrote: Here is a short paper describing a verification of Mizuno's experiment at the Hokkaido University of Science. This document includes an English version and the original Japanese version. https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IgarashiJdevelopmen.pdf -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr.22 8910 Affoltern a.A. 044 760 14 18 079 246 36 06
RE: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment
The report of the Hokkaido experiment with deuterium and tritium in a nano nickel lattice is a first description of such a reactor to my knowledge. TRITIUM AS A FUEL IS NEW! To me. The report makes note of the difficulty of getting deuterium—what about getting and managing tritium, which is radioactive and would explain the radioactivity the researchers noted at page 7 of the English translation? I am very surprised that Mizuno uses tritium. Bob Cook From: Frank Grimer<mailto:88.fr...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 4:25 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment I'm not surprised he is being successful. If I'd been him I would have let the experiment (he describes in his book) that was running away continue and blow up the lab. It would have been confirmation of the P experiment where they blew a hole in the lab bench. On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 23:13, Jed Rothwell mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>> wrote: Here is a short paper describing a verification of Mizuno's experiment at the Hokkaido University of Science. This document includes an English version and the original Japanese version. https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IgarashiJdevelopmen.pdf
Re: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment
I'm not surprised he is being successful. If I'd been him I would have let the experiment (he describes in his book) that was running away continue and blow up the lab. It would have been confirmation of the P experiment where they blew a hole in the lab bench. On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 23:13, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Here is a short paper describing a verification of Mizuno's experiment at > the Hokkaido University of Science. This document includes an English > version and the original Japanese version. > > https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IgarashiJdevelopmen.pdf >
Re: [Vo]:Verification of Mizuno experiment
I'm not surprised he is being successful. If I'd been him I would have let the experiment (he describes in his book) that was running away continue and blow up the lab. It would have been confirmation of the P experiment where they blew a hole in the lab bench. On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 23:13, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Here is a short paper describing a verification of Mizuno's experiment at > the Hokkaido University of Science. This document includes an English > version and the original Japanese version. > > https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IgarashiJdevelopmen.pdf >
