Re: [vtcl] I would like to maintain Visual Tcl 1.2
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Larry W. Virden wrote: From: cgavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I will remove the dependency from Itcl What I would love to see is vtcl with the ability to look at the current tcl environment, determine what widgets are available, and then to make any of the widgets - whether iwidgets, tktable, etc. - all available... Indeed! But add to that a per-project preference to turn off features. This way, in an environment that has [a-zA-Z]widgets, you can easily turn certain ones off when you need to develop an app with a target environment that does _not_ have those features. On a quiet day, you can here the features creep... ...RickM... --- To unsubscribe from the Visual Tcl mailing list, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe vtcl [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the message body (where [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your e-mail address).
Re: [vtcl] I would like to maintain Visual Tcl 1.2
Christian, good plan. your headaches w/ unix vs. windows are something I'm very familiar with. I punted on some features like focus/update because it was unreliable. I look forward to the patches and will make an attempt to get them merged into sourceforce within a day of receipt. Stewart On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, cgavin wrote: Stewart, I am really sorry about the copyright issue. I didn't intend to violate your rights. I am new to the GPL and you are right, the copyright notice must be kept intact. I have restored the title image as well as all the headers. I have added a line in the about box that says "Maintained by". We could have a credits dialog with names. Thanks for your feedback. What do you think of the following plan: - I will complete the font manager - I will remove the dependency from Itcl - I will add an option for an "Image editor" in the Preferences. - I need to do some modifications to make my changes more modular - Once this is done (I hope in a few days), I will do a diff with 1.2 and send you the result, so that you can integrate it. I have tried to indicate my changes in source files as much as possible with comments. The focus in/out events to set a property as soon as you click outside an entry field are still giving me headaches... it is hard to handle a sequence of events whose order you don't know (it's different under Windows). Apparently in some cases if you select a widget in the tree the variable vTcl(w,widget) is not set correctly and my code tries to set a non-existent property for a widget. Sometimes you click outside the properties dialog and you get a "Property does not exist" type of message. I am sure this can be solved. A message in the list pointed out that there is a 1.3 codebase. Are my changes too deep to be integrated into 1.3 ? What if 1.2 gets developed in parallel with 1.3 ? Other than that, I think vTcl is a great software (and it is free) ! Compare it to Visual Studio 6.0 where you need to browse 1 Gig of documentation to know how to change the background color of a control. Christian Gavin --- To unsubscribe from the Visual Tcl mailing list, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe vtcl [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the message body (where [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your e-mail address). --- To unsubscribe from the Visual Tcl mailing list, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe vtcl [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the message body (where [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your e-mail address).
RE: [vtcl] I would like to maintain Visual Tcl 1.2
Don't know if there is a future planned re-write or not but do you have patch files that might be able to be used on the existing 1.3 code? There may be some signiciant changes between 1.2 and 1.3 though so that is my concern. Or does the group as a whole think it would be better to start development again based on 1.2? I would hate for all the 1.3 work to go to waste. You might check on the cvs tree at sourceforge with the current version at http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=285 Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 1:39 AM Subject: [vtcl] I would like to maintain Visual Tcl 1.2 I have started working on my own on Visual Tcl 1.2 and I saw there is a lot of interest in it. I would be very interested to continue the development. Here is what I already added: snip additions Christian Gavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have posted a copy of my Visual Tcl at http://www.dnai.com/~cgavin/vtcl/download I would welcome comments, remarks, etc.! For now it requires Itcl but I am going to rewrite the few lines of code in the image manager that use Itcl to use standard Tcl/Tk instead. There was talk of possibly using iTcl for the new stuff..so maybe this is a starting point, unless the development team is sure they don't want to make iTcl as part of it. Eric Bresie [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To unsubscribe from the Visual Tcl mailing list, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe vtcl [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the message body (where [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your e-mail address).
Re: [vtcl] I would like to maintain Visual Tcl 1.2
On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, cgavin wrote: Hi, I have started working on my own on Visual Tcl 1.2 and I saw there is a lot of interest in it. I would be very interested to continue the development. Here is what I already added: Well! We now have two people (Chritian and Fabien) actively adding lots of good stuff to vTcl. What shall come of this? Can you two work together? ...RickM... --- To unsubscribe from the Visual Tcl mailing list, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe vtcl [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the message body (where [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your e-mail address).
Re: [vtcl] I would like to maintain Visual Tcl 1.2
Christian, These look like great additions. I like the syntax highlighting. The widget tree highlighting is white on grey, though which is hard to see. I found one bug with the update which causes errors if you do not select File-New before inserting widgets (minor). I would also add a preference for image editor so vtcl can still run on windows; it would be possible to detect platform and default to gimp on unix and paint on windows. You need to be careful about the copyrights. It would be appropriate now to add a MAINTAINERS file with a list of credits. You cannot modify the copyright on any file which I originally authored (this includes the startup GIF). I would like to fold these (and other) changes into the main source base on sourceforge so there is a single point of distribution. Your new files do not contain copyright or licensing (GPL) info so I can't fold them in in their current form. Please submit diffs against 1.2 or change the files on your site so I can re-download if you want me to merge in the changes. Again, this looks like great stuff and I think it adds tremendous value to the 1.2 base. Stewart On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, cgavin wrote: Hi, I have started working on my own on Visual Tcl 1.2 and I saw there is a lot of interest in it. I would be very interested to continue the development. Here is what I already added: - Added labels for widgets in widget tree, added automatic refresh of widget tree when new widget is added or widget deleted - Current selected widget is highlighted in widget tree - Added/checked support for the following Iwidgets: combobox, scrolledlistbox, spinint, calendar, dateentry, toolbar, entryfield, scrolledhtml - Added syntax coloring to proc editor / command editor - The command console under Linux now shows standard output from commands issued by the user, plus the return value too - Properties are automatically set when the user clicks outside an entry field - Added image manager to maintain a list of stock images (eg. always available to the program) and a list of user images (on a per project basis). Added image selector. - Added font selector. It does not have a font manager yet but that could be added too. - When saving a project under Linux, makes it executable automatically. I was planning to do the following: - Add font manager - Inline images so that the project file is self-contained - Entirely rewrite the menu editor, which is not very usable right now - Rewrite the bindings editor too - Add syntax assist a la Microsoft, for example it would give you a list of commands or properties for an object while you type - Add support for FreeWrap, which would allow to generate stand-alone executables under Linux and Windows. - More bug fixes. Christian Gavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have posted a copy of my Visual Tcl at http://www.dnai.com/~cgavin/vtcl/download I would welcome comments, remarks, etc.! For now it requires Itcl but I am going to rewrite the few lines of code in the image manager that use Itcl to use standard Tcl/Tk instead. --- To unsubscribe from the Visual Tcl mailing list, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe vtcl [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the message body (where [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your e-mail address). --- To unsubscribe from the Visual Tcl mailing list, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe vtcl [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the message body (where [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your e-mail address).
Re: [vtcl] I would like to maintain Visual Tcl 1.2
I agree, with Eric, but I just downloaded " Christian Gavin " version and the two seem to have alot in common. Granted I have not been able to use Christian's release appearently his release require other widgets that were not needed or require by the 1.2 version. Christian could you provide a list or requirements that would enable us to use your release. I also understand that Fabien COUTANT has a new release as well, may be you could post your release for review as well. Thanks Guys. - Original Message - From: "Eric Bresie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 10:47 AM Subject: RE: [vtcl] I would like to maintain Visual Tcl 1.2 Don't know if there is a future planned re-write or not but do you have patch files that might be able to be used on the existing 1.3 code? There may be some signiciant changes between 1.2 and 1.3 though so that is my concern. Or does the group as a whole think it would be better to start development again based on 1.2? I would hate for all the 1.3 work to go to waste. You might check on the cvs tree at sourceforge with the current version at http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=285 Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 1:39 AM Subject: [vtcl] I would like to maintain Visual Tcl 1.2 I have started working on my own on Visual Tcl 1.2 and I saw there is a lot of interest in it. I would be very interested to continue the development. Here is what I already added: snip additions Christian Gavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have posted a copy of my Visual Tcl at http://www.dnai.com/~cgavin/vtcl/download I would welcome comments, remarks, etc.! For now it requires Itcl but I am going to rewrite the few lines of code in the image manager that use Itcl to use standard Tcl/Tk instead. There was talk of possibly using iTcl for the new stuff..so maybe this is a starting point, unless the development team is sure they don't want to make iTcl as part of it. Eric Bresie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe from the Visual Tcl mailing list, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe vtcl [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the message body (where [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your e-mail address). --- To unsubscribe from the Visual Tcl mailing list, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe vtcl [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the message body (where [EMAIL PROTECTED] is your e-mail address).
