Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-20 Thread William Siegrist
On Mar 16, 2012, at 9:54 AM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.com wrote:

 On Mar 16, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
 
 As I stated on this thread, I was getting reasonable download speed from svn 
 and others at home (Comcast business in SF). You may want to compare my 
 traceroute to others and see if there's a difference.
 
 
 
 I have been comparing them and do not see a pattern. I've gotten reports of 
 people both near and far having both fast and slow downloads, and the problem 
 has been reported against more than 1 service and more than 1 piece of 
 hardware.
 


I'm seeing many fewer clients connected to git and svn. I'm hoping that means 
the bandwidth problem went away and the backlog has cleared? Is anyone still 
having problems with a slow connection?

-Bill
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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-17 Thread Dana Jansens
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:54 PM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.comwrote:

 On Mar 16, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

  As I stated on this thread, I was getting reasonable download speed from
 svn and others at home (Comcast business in SF). You may want to compare my
 traceroute to others and see if there's a difference.
 


 I have been comparing them and do not see a pattern. I've gotten reports
 of people both near and far having both fast and slow downloads, and the
 problem has been reported against more than 1 service and more than 1 piece
 of hardware.


I've found the problem to be intermittent. I'm typically pulling about 5-10
kB/s, but occasionally/rarely pull over 1MB/s.

I had at first assumed it was load on the server causing the problem,
because you can tell it's going to be a slow one when you get 75% through
the compressing objects stage of a git fetch, which is all on the server
AIUI, and it starts to crawl already.

- Dana
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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-16 Thread William Siegrist
No, as far as I can tell the servers are operating normally. From home, I can 
checkout webkit in 30 minutes, which is of course very close to the servers, 
but not much closer than Mountain View.  My home trace does not seem to go 
through Level 3, so maybe its a 3rd party network issue.  I've tried to tweak 
the servers to compensate but nothing has made a difference so far. 

Does anyone get decent download speed from svn besides me? 

-Bill



On Mar 15, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote:

 Do you know what is causing the issue?
 
 - Ryosuke
 
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:43 PM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.com wrote:
 Thanks everyone for the debugging information. We are working on both 
 hardware and software solutions, but I have no ETA to give you.
 
 -Bill
 
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Levi Weintraub le...@google.com wrote:
 
  Likewise in Mountain View... it's making WebKit gardening impossible :(
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Dmitry Titov dim...@chromium.org wrote:
  over here in Seattle I am getting 5KiB/s all day, no way to get an updated 
  checkout today :-(
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org wrote:
  Well I was just about to follow up that from the east coast on Comcast 
  bbone, I'm pulling at acceptable rates from git.webkit.org, ~700KiB/s.  
  That's about as fast as it's always been.  Same goes for nightly.webkit.org.
 
  There's a number of possible issues that would result in slow response 
  times and slow downloads.  E.g., it could be sheer packet loss between 
  carrier backbones and not necessarily tapped bandwidth.
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM,
 Ryosuke Niwa
 Software Engineer
 Google Inc.
 
 
 rn...@webkit.org wrote:
  I don't really think checking the latency is interesting. What's killing us 
  is bandwidth. As far as I tested yesterday, the ping at my work (Google SF 
  office) gives me a reasonable time as well.
 
  There's something that's killing our bandwidth. Does anyone know some tools 
  to investigate this?
 
  - Ryosuke
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org wrote:
  Ditto, @ ae-11-70 attempting to get to ae-21-60 the trace dies.  Pings to 
  svn.webkit.org succeed in acceptable times however, for me.  Perhaps the 
  hops following ae-11-70 and ae-21-60 simple aren't able to reply with 
  proper ICMP packets; no real conclusion to based on that info alone, but 
  maybe worth passing off to the provider and/or directly to Level3.
 
  Jarred
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Levi Weintraub le...@google.com wrote:
  Likewise, I lose everything past *.car1.sanjose2.level3.net. SVN updates 
  are dog slow :(
 
   6  pr01-xe-8-2-0.sjc07.net.google.com (72.14.218.230)  4.306 ms  4.966 ms *
   7  xe-11-1-0.edge2.sanjose3.level3.net (4.79.40.153)  20.116 ms  3.031 ms  
  3.056 ms
   8  ae-31-90.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.203)  4.316 ms
  ae-11-70.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.75)  4.239 ms
  ae-21-60.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.11)  4.545 ms
   9  * * *
  10  * * *
  11  * * *
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:
  Bill,
 
  I'm currently pulling from svn.webkit.org at what feels like 5kbps, and 
  poor http://build.webkit.org/console hits the page refresh before it's even 
  able to render to the bottom :(
 
  Below is a traceroute to webkit.org:
  traceroute to svn.webkit.org (17.254.20.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
   1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.1)  0.233 ms  0.297 ms  0.371 ms
   2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  2.446 ms  2.445 ms  2.518 ms
   3  96.176.191.1 (96.176.191.1)  24.451 ms  25.398 ms  28.688 ms
   4  xe-11-0-0-0-sur01.a2atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.85.91.177)  
  14.588 ms  15.541 ms  15.733 ms
   5  xe-2-1-3-0-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.57)  16.563 
  ms  16.929 ms  16.946 ms
   6  pos-3-6-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.201)  17.967 ms 
  pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.125)  14.599 ms  
  11.428 ms
   7  4.28.24.77 (4.28.24.77)  15.973 ms  17.858 ms  17.307 ms
   8  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  19.688 ms 
  vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.126)  14.891 ms 
  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  15.116 ms
   9  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.651 ms 
  ae-63-63.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.241)  13.767 ms 
  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.955 ms
  10  ae-7-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.134.21)  34.004 ms  36.807 ms  
  34.950 ms
  11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  66.601 ms  65.766 ms  
  66.692 ms
  12  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.202)  78.577 ms  78.007 ms  
  78.175 ms
  13  ae-1-100.ebr1.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.109)  78.594 ms  78.520 ms 
  ae-5-5.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.142)  81.371 ms
  14  ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  71.989 ms 
  ae-5-5.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net 

Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-16 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:23 AM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.comwrote:

 No, as far as I can tell the servers are operating normally. From home, I
 can checkout webkit in 30 minutes, which is of course very close to the
 servers, but not much closer than Mountain View.  My home trace does not
 seem to go through Level 3, so maybe its a 3rd party network issue.  I've
 tried to tweak the servers to compensate but nothing has made a difference
 so far.

 Does anyone get decent download speed from svn besides me?


As I stated on this thread, I was getting reasonable download speed from
svn and others at home (Comcast business in SF). You may want to compare my
traceroute to others and see if there's a difference.

- Ryosuke
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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-16 Thread William Siegrist
On Mar 16, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

 As I stated on this thread, I was getting reasonable download speed from svn 
 and others at home (Comcast business in SF). You may want to compare my 
 traceroute to others and see if there's a difference.
 


I have been comparing them and do not see a pattern. I've gotten reports of 
people both near and far having both fast and slow downloads, and the problem 
has been reported against more than 1 service and more than 1 piece of hardware.

Thanks,
-Bill

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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-15 Thread William Siegrist
Our network provider did not find anything wrong. If anyone is currently seeing 
slow download times, I would like to see a traceroute to the server.  

Thanks,
-Bill


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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-15 Thread Philip Rogers
Bill,

I'm currently pulling from svn.webkit.org at what feels like 5kbps, and
poor http://build.webkit.org/console hits the page refresh before it's even
able to render to the bottom :(

Below is a traceroute to webkit.org:
traceroute to svn.webkit.org (17.254.20.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.1)  0.233 ms  0.297 ms  0.371 ms
 2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  2.446 ms  2.445 ms  2.518 ms
 3  96.176.191.1 (96.176.191.1)  24.451 ms  25.398 ms  28.688 ms
 4  xe-11-0-0-0-sur01.a2atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.85.91.177)
 14.588 ms  15.541 ms  15.733 ms
 5  xe-2-1-3-0-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.57)  16.563
ms  16.929 ms  16.946 ms
 6  pos-3-6-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.201)  17.967 ms
pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.125)  14.599 ms
 11.428 ms
 7  4.28.24.77 (4.28.24.77)  15.973 ms  17.858 ms  17.307 ms
 8  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  19.688 ms
vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.126)  14.891 ms
vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  15.116 ms
 9  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.651 ms
ae-63-63.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.241)  13.767 ms
ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.955 ms
10  ae-7-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.134.21)  34.004 ms  36.807 ms
 34.950 ms
11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  66.601 ms  65.766 ms
 66.692 ms
12  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.202)  78.577 ms  78.007 ms
 78.175 ms
13  ae-1-100.ebr1.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.109)  78.594 ms  78.520 ms
ae-5-5.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.142)  81.371 ms
14  ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  71.989 ms
ae-5-5.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.138)  77.341 ms
ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  77.662 ms
15  ae-62-62.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.18)  80.375 ms
ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.2)  87.895 ms
ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  77.137 ms
16  ae-31-90.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.203)  77.660 ms
ae-41-80.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.139)  78.313 ms
ae-21-60.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.11)  77.746 ms
17  * * *
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25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *

Thanks for looking into this.
Philip

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.comwrote:

 Our network provider did not find anything wrong. If anyone is currently
 seeing slow download times, I would like to see a traceroute to the server.

 Thanks,
 -Bill


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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-15 Thread Levi Weintraub
Likewise, I lose everything past *.car1.sanjose2.level3.net. SVN updates
are dog slow :(

 6  pr01-xe-8-2-0.sjc07.net.google.com (72.14.218.230)  4.306 ms  4.966 ms *
 7  xe-11-1-0.edge2.sanjose3.level3.net (4.79.40.153)  20.116 ms  3.031 ms
 3.056 ms
 8  ae-31-90.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.203)  4.316 ms
ae-11-70.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.75)  4.239 ms
ae-21-60.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.11)  4.545 ms
 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * *


On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:

 Bill,

 I'm currently pulling from svn.webkit.org at what feels like 5kbps, and
 poor http://build.webkit.org/console hits the page refresh before it's
 even able to render to the bottom :(

 Below is a traceroute to webkit.org:
 traceroute to svn.webkit.org (17.254.20.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
   1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.1)  0.233 ms  0.297 ms  0.371 ms
  2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  2.446 ms  2.445 ms  2.518 ms
  3  96.176.191.1 (96.176.191.1)  24.451 ms  25.398 ms  28.688 ms
  4  xe-11-0-0-0-sur01.a2atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.85.91.177)
  14.588 ms  15.541 ms  15.733 ms
  5  xe-2-1-3-0-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.57)
  16.563 ms  16.929 ms  16.946 ms
  6  pos-3-6-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.201)  17.967
 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.125)  14.599
 ms  11.428 ms
  7  4.28.24.77 (4.28.24.77)  15.973 ms  17.858 ms  17.307 ms
  8  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  19.688 ms
 vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.126)  14.891 ms
 vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  15.116 ms
  9  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.651 ms
 ae-63-63.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.241)  13.767 ms
 ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.955 ms
 10  ae-7-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.134.21)  34.004 ms  36.807 ms
  34.950 ms
 11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  66.601 ms  65.766
 ms  66.692 ms
 12  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.202)  78.577 ms  78.007 ms
  78.175 ms
 13  ae-1-100.ebr1.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.109)  78.594 ms  78.520
 ms ae-5-5.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.142)  81.371 ms
 14  ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  71.989 ms
 ae-5-5.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.138)  77.341 ms
 ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  77.662 ms
 15  ae-62-62.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.18)  80.375 ms
 ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.2)  87.895 ms
 ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  77.137 ms
 16  ae-31-90.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.203)  77.660 ms
 ae-41-80.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.139)  78.313 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.11)  77.746 ms
 17  * * *
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  28  * * *
 29  * * *
 30  * * *

 Thanks for looking into this.
 Philip

 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.comwrote:

 Our network provider did not find anything wrong. If anyone is currently
 seeing slow download times, I would like to see a traceroute to the server.

 Thanks,
 -Bill


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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-15 Thread Patrick Gansterer
My git fetch transfer rates seam to depend on the time and day of the week. 
Last weekend I fetched with about 800 KiB/s, now I get about 250 KiB/s, but I 
reach only about 40 KiB/s during US working hours 1-2 weeks ago.

The traceroute looks the same from Austria:
 9  ae-11-11.car1.Vienna1.Level3.net (4.69.135.29)  1.870 ms  1.860 ms  0.867 ms
10  ae-6-6.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.135.34)  12.836 ms  12.833 ms  
12.923 ms
11  ae-61-61.csw1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.2)  12.912 ms 
ae-91-91.csw4.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.14)  12.911 ms 
ae-71-71.csw2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.6)  12.912 ms
12  ae-72-72.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.21)  12.911 ms 
ae-62-62.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.17)  12.901 ms 
ae-72-72.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.69.140.21)  12.922 ms
13  ae-23-23.ebr2.London1.Level3.net (4.69.148.193)  21.908 ms 
ae-22-22.ebr2.London1.Level3.net (4.69.148.189)  21.898 ms 
ae-21-21.ebr2.London1.Level3.net (4.69.148.185)  21.897 ms
14  ae-44-44.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.78)  90.846 ms 
ae-43-43.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.74)  90.921 ms 
ae-42-42.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.70)  90.917 ms
15  ae-81-81.csw3.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.74)  90.899 ms 
ae-91-91.csw4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.78)  90.896 ms 
ae-81-81.csw3.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.74)  90.893 ms
16  ae-62-62.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.148.33)  90.891 ms 
ae-72-72.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.148.37)  90.882 ms 
ae-62-62.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.148.33)  90.881 ms
17  ae-2-2.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.135.185)  158.886 ms  158.877 ms  
158.873 ms
18  ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.2)  158.869 ms 
ae-71-71.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.6)  161.884 ms 
ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  159.883 ms
19  ae-11-70.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.75)  159.880 ms 
ae-21-60.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.11)  159.867 ms  159.857 ms
20  * * *
21  * * *
22  * * *

- Patrick

Am 15.03.2012 um 18:22 schrieb Levi Weintraub:

 Likewise, I lose everything past *.car1.sanjose2.level3.net. SVN updates are 
 dog slow :(
 
  6  pr01-xe-8-2-0.sjc07.net.google.com (72.14.218.230)  4.306 ms  4.966 ms *
  7  xe-11-1-0.edge2.sanjose3.level3.net (4.79.40.153)  20.116 ms  3.031 ms  
 3.056 ms
  8  ae-31-90.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.203)  4.316 ms
 ae-11-70.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.75)  4.239 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.11)  4.545 ms
  9  * * *
 10  * * *
 11  * * *
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:
 Bill,
 
 I'm currently pulling from svn.webkit.org at what feels like 5kbps, and poor 
 http://build.webkit.org/console hits the page refresh before it's even able 
 to render to the bottom :(
 
 Below is a traceroute to webkit.org:
 traceroute to svn.webkit.org (17.254.20.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
  1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.1)  0.233 ms  0.297 ms  0.371 ms
  2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  2.446 ms  2.445 ms  2.518 ms
  3  96.176.191.1 (96.176.191.1)  24.451 ms  25.398 ms  28.688 ms
  4  xe-11-0-0-0-sur01.a2atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.85.91.177)  14.588 
 ms  15.541 ms  15.733 ms
  5  xe-2-1-3-0-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.57)  16.563 
 ms  16.929 ms  16.946 ms
  6  pos-3-6-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.201)  17.967 ms 
 pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.125)  14.599 ms  
 11.428 ms
  7  4.28.24.77 (4.28.24.77)  15.973 ms  17.858 ms  17.307 ms
  8  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  19.688 ms 
 vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.126)  14.891 ms 
 vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  15.116 ms
  9  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.651 ms 
 ae-63-63.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.241)  13.767 ms 
 ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.955 ms
 10  ae-7-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.134.21)  34.004 ms  36.807 ms  
 34.950 ms
 11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  66.601 ms  65.766 ms  
 66.692 ms
 12  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.202)  78.577 ms  78.007 ms  
 78.175 ms
 13  ae-1-100.ebr1.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.109)  78.594 ms  78.520 ms 
 ae-5-5.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.142)  81.371 ms
 14  ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  71.989 ms 
 ae-5-5.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.138)  77.341 ms 
 ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  77.662 ms
 15  ae-62-62.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.18)  80.375 ms 
 ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.2)  87.895 ms 
 ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  77.137 ms
 16  ae-31-90.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.203)  77.660 ms 
 ae-41-80.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.139)  78.313 ms 
 ae-21-60.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.11)  77.746 ms
 17  * * *
 18  * * *
 19  * * *
 20  * * *
 21  * * *
 22  * * *
 23  * * *
 24  * * *
 25  * * *
 26  * * *
 27  * * *
 28  * * *
 29  * * *
 30  * 

Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-15 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
It appears that I get a much better bandwidth (can download the svn tarball
at roughly 1.8MB/s) at home (Comcast business class) than at work
(something around 10-20KB/s yesterday). At home, I see:

traceroute to webkit.org (17.254.20.237), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  buffalo.setup (192.168.11.1)  5.823 ms  0.916 ms  0.863 ms
 2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  1.876 ms  1.698 ms  1.662 ms
 3  96.135.192.1 (96.135.192.1)  36.260 ms  28.821 ms  30.721 ms
 4  te-4-1-ur01.sffolsom.ca.sfba.comcast.net (68.85.100.121)  13.265 ms
 12.646 ms  12.627 ms
 5  te-1-10-0-2-ar01.sfsutro.ca.sfba.comcast.net (68.85.154.62)  23.339 ms
 39.367 ms  14.842 ms
 6  pos-3-2-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.90.153)  18.621 ms
 16.256 ms  15.185 ms
 7  xe-11-1-0.edge1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.79.43.133)  16.010 ms  11.261 ms
 16.856 ms
 8  ae-21-60.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.11)  12.322 ms
ae-31-90.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.203)  15.883 ms
ae-11-70.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.75)  17.818 ms
 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * *
...


- Ryosuke

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Levi Weintraub le...@google.com wrote:

 Likewise, I lose everything past *.car1.sanjose2.level3.net. SVN updates
 are dog slow :(

  6  pr01-xe-8-2-0.sjc07.net.google.com (72.14.218.230)  4.306 ms  4.966
 ms *
  7  xe-11-1-0.edge2.sanjose3.level3.net (4.79.40.153)  20.116 ms  3.031
 ms  3.056 ms
  8  ae-31-90.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.203)  4.316 ms
 ae-11-70.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.75)  4.239 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.11)  4.545 ms
  9  * * *
 10  * * *
 11  * * *


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:

 Bill,

 I'm currently pulling from svn.webkit.org at what feels like 5kbps, and
 poor http://build.webkit.org/console hits the page refresh before it's
 even able to render to the bottom :(

 Below is a traceroute to webkit.org:
 traceroute to svn.webkit.org (17.254.20.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte
 packets
   1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.1)  0.233 ms  0.297 ms  0.371 ms
  2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  2.446 ms  2.445 ms  2.518 ms
  3  96.176.191.1 (96.176.191.1)  24.451 ms  25.398 ms  28.688 ms
  4  xe-11-0-0-0-sur01.a2atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.85.91.177)
  14.588 ms  15.541 ms  15.733 ms
  5  xe-2-1-3-0-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.57)
  16.563 ms  16.929 ms  16.946 ms
  6  pos-3-6-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.201)  17.967
 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.125)  14.599
 ms  11.428 ms
  7  4.28.24.77 (4.28.24.77)  15.973 ms  17.858 ms  17.307 ms
  8  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  19.688 ms
 vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.126)  14.891 ms
 vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  15.116 ms
  9  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.651 ms
 ae-63-63.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.241)  13.767 ms
 ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.955 ms
 10  ae-7-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.134.21)  34.004 ms  36.807 ms
  34.950 ms
 11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  66.601 ms  65.766
 ms  66.692 ms
 12  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.202)  78.577 ms  78.007 ms
  78.175 ms
 13  ae-1-100.ebr1.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.109)  78.594 ms  78.520
 ms ae-5-5.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.142)  81.371 ms
 14  ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  71.989 ms
 ae-5-5.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.138)  77.341 ms
 ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  77.662 ms
 15  ae-62-62.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.18)  80.375 ms
 ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.2)  87.895 ms
 ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  77.137 ms
 16  ae-31-90.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.203)  77.660 ms
 ae-41-80.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.139)  78.313 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.11)  77.746 ms
 17  * * *
 18  * * *
 19  * * *
 20  * * *
 21  * * *
 22  * * *
 23  * * *
 24  * * *
 25  * * *
 26  * * *
 27  * * *
  28  * * *
 29  * * *
 30  * * *

 Thanks for looking into this.
 Philip

 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM, William Siegrist 
 wsiegr...@apple.comwrote:

 Our network provider did not find anything wrong. If anyone is currently
 seeing slow download times, I would like to see a traceroute to the server.

 Thanks,
 -Bill


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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-15 Thread Jarred Nicholls
Ditto, @ ae-11-70 attempting to get to ae-21-60 the trace dies.  Pings to
svn.webkit.org succeed in acceptable times however, for me.  Perhaps the
hops following ae-11-70 and ae-21-60 simple aren't able to reply with
proper ICMP packets; no real conclusion to based on that info alone, but
maybe worth passing off to the provider and/or directly to Level3.

Jarred

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Levi Weintraub le...@google.com wrote:

 Likewise, I lose everything past *.car1.sanjose2.level3.net. SVN updates
 are dog slow :(

  6  pr01-xe-8-2-0.sjc07.net.google.com (72.14.218.230)  4.306 ms  4.966
 ms *
  7  xe-11-1-0.edge2.sanjose3.level3.net (4.79.40.153)  20.116 ms  3.031
 ms  3.056 ms
  8  ae-31-90.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.203)  4.316 ms
 ae-11-70.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.75)  4.239 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.11)  4.545 ms
  9  * * *
 10  * * *
 11  * * *


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:

 Bill,

 I'm currently pulling from svn.webkit.org at what feels like 5kbps, and
 poor http://build.webkit.org/console hits the page refresh before it's
 even able to render to the bottom :(

 Below is a traceroute to webkit.org:
 traceroute to svn.webkit.org (17.254.20.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte
 packets
   1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.1)  0.233 ms  0.297 ms  0.371 ms
  2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  2.446 ms  2.445 ms  2.518 ms
  3  96.176.191.1 (96.176.191.1)  24.451 ms  25.398 ms  28.688 ms
  4  xe-11-0-0-0-sur01.a2atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.85.91.177)
  14.588 ms  15.541 ms  15.733 ms
  5  xe-2-1-3-0-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.57)
  16.563 ms  16.929 ms  16.946 ms
  6  pos-3-6-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.201)  17.967
 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.125)  14.599
 ms  11.428 ms
  7  4.28.24.77 (4.28.24.77)  15.973 ms  17.858 ms  17.307 ms
  8  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  19.688 ms
 vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.126)  14.891 ms
 vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  15.116 ms
  9  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.651 ms
 ae-63-63.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.241)  13.767 ms
 ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.955 ms
 10  ae-7-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.134.21)  34.004 ms  36.807 ms
  34.950 ms
 11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  66.601 ms  65.766
 ms  66.692 ms
 12  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.202)  78.577 ms  78.007 ms
  78.175 ms
 13  ae-1-100.ebr1.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.109)  78.594 ms  78.520
 ms ae-5-5.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.142)  81.371 ms
 14  ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  71.989 ms
 ae-5-5.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.138)  77.341 ms
 ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  77.662 ms
 15  ae-62-62.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.18)  80.375 ms
 ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.2)  87.895 ms
 ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  77.137 ms
 16  ae-31-90.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.203)  77.660 ms
 ae-41-80.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.139)  78.313 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.11)  77.746 ms
 17  * * *
 18  * * *
 19  * * *
 20  * * *
 21  * * *
 22  * * *
 23  * * *
 24  * * *
 25  * * *
 26  * * *
 27  * * *
  28  * * *
 29  * * *
 30  * * *

 Thanks for looking into this.
 Philip

 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM, William Siegrist 
 wsiegr...@apple.comwrote:

 Our network provider did not find anything wrong. If anyone is currently
 seeing slow download times, I would like to see a traceroute to the server.

 Thanks,
 -Bill


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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-15 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
I don't really think checking the latency is interesting. What's killing us
is bandwidth. As far as I tested yesterday, the ping at my work (Google SF
office) gives me a reasonable time as well.

There's something that's killing our bandwidth. Does anyone know some tools
to investigate this?

- Ryosuke

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org wrote:

 Ditto, @ ae-11-70 attempting to get to ae-21-60 the trace dies.  Pings to
 svn.webkit.org succeed in acceptable times however, for me.  Perhaps the
 hops following ae-11-70 and ae-21-60 simple aren't able to reply with
 proper ICMP packets; no real conclusion to based on that info alone, but
 maybe worth passing off to the provider and/or directly to Level3.

 Jarred


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Levi Weintraub le...@google.com wrote:

 Likewise, I lose everything past *.car1.sanjose2.level3.net. SVN updates
 are dog slow :(

  6  pr01-xe-8-2-0.sjc07.net.google.com (72.14.218.230)  4.306 ms  4.966
 ms *
  7  xe-11-1-0.edge2.sanjose3.level3.net (4.79.40.153)  20.116 ms  3.031
 ms  3.056 ms
  8  ae-31-90.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.203)  4.316 ms
 ae-11-70.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.75)  4.239 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.11)  4.545 ms
  9  * * *
 10  * * *
 11  * * *


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:

 Bill,

 I'm currently pulling from svn.webkit.org at what feels like 5kbps, and
 poor http://build.webkit.org/console hits the page refresh before it's
 even able to render to the bottom :(

 Below is a traceroute to webkit.org:
 traceroute to svn.webkit.org (17.254.20.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte
 packets
   1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.1)  0.233 ms  0.297 ms  0.371 ms
  2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  2.446 ms  2.445 ms  2.518 ms
  3  96.176.191.1 (96.176.191.1)  24.451 ms  25.398 ms  28.688 ms
  4  xe-11-0-0-0-sur01.a2atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.85.91.177)
  14.588 ms  15.541 ms  15.733 ms
  5  xe-2-1-3-0-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.57)
  16.563 ms  16.929 ms  16.946 ms
  6  pos-3-6-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.201)
  17.967 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.125)
  14.599 ms  11.428 ms
  7  4.28.24.77 (4.28.24.77)  15.973 ms  17.858 ms  17.307 ms
  8  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  19.688 ms
 vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.126)  14.891 ms
 vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  15.116 ms
  9  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.651 ms
 ae-63-63.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.241)  13.767 ms
 ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.955 ms
 10  ae-7-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.134.21)  34.004 ms  36.807 ms
  34.950 ms
 11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  66.601 ms  65.766
 ms  66.692 ms
 12  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.202)  78.577 ms  78.007
 ms  78.175 ms
 13  ae-1-100.ebr1.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.109)  78.594 ms  78.520
 ms ae-5-5.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.142)  81.371 ms
 14  ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  71.989 ms
 ae-5-5.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.138)  77.341 ms
 ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  77.662 ms
 15  ae-62-62.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.18)  80.375 ms
 ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.2)  87.895 ms
 ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  77.137 ms
 16  ae-31-90.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.203)  77.660 ms
 ae-41-80.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.139)  78.313 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.11)  77.746 ms
 17  * * *
 18  * * *
 19  * * *
 20  * * *
 21  * * *
 22  * * *
 23  * * *
 24  * * *
 25  * * *
 26  * * *
 27  * * *
  28  * * *
 29  * * *
 30  * * *

 Thanks for looking into this.
 Philip

 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM, William Siegrist 
 wsiegr...@apple.comwrote:

 Our network provider did not find anything wrong. If anyone is
 currently seeing slow download times, I would like to see a traceroute to
 the server.

 Thanks,
 -Bill


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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-15 Thread Jarred Nicholls
Well I was just about to follow up that from the east coast on Comcast
bbone, I'm pulling at acceptable rates from git.webkit.org, ~700KiB/s.
 That's about as fast as it's always been.  Same goes for nightly.webkit.org
.

There's a number of possible issues that would result in slow response
times and slow downloads.  E.g., it could be sheer packet loss between
carrier backbones and not necessarily tapped bandwidth.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

 I don't really think checking the latency is interesting. What's killing
 us is bandwidth. As far as I tested yesterday, the ping at my work (Google
 SF office) gives me a reasonable time as well.

 There's something that's killing our bandwidth. Does anyone know some
 tools to investigate this?

 - Ryosuke


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.orgwrote:

 Ditto, @ ae-11-70 attempting to get to ae-21-60 the trace dies.  Pings to
 svn.webkit.org succeed in acceptable times however, for me.  Perhaps the
 hops following ae-11-70 and ae-21-60 simple aren't able to reply with
 proper ICMP packets; no real conclusion to based on that info alone, but
 maybe worth passing off to the provider and/or directly to Level3.

 Jarred


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Levi Weintraub le...@google.com wrote:

 Likewise, I lose everything past *.car1.sanjose2.level3.net. SVN
 updates are dog slow :(

  6  pr01-xe-8-2-0.sjc07.net.google.com (72.14.218.230)  4.306 ms  4.966
 ms *
  7  xe-11-1-0.edge2.sanjose3.level3.net (4.79.40.153)  20.116 ms  3.031
 ms  3.056 ms
  8  ae-31-90.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.203)  4.316 ms
 ae-11-70.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.75)  4.239 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.11)  4.545 ms
  9  * * *
 10  * * *
 11  * * *


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:

 Bill,

 I'm currently pulling from svn.webkit.org at what feels like 5kbps,
 and poor http://build.webkit.org/console hits the page refresh before
 it's even able to render to the bottom :(

 Below is a traceroute to webkit.org:
 traceroute to svn.webkit.org (17.254.20.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte
 packets
   1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.1)  0.233 ms  0.297 ms  0.371 ms
  2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  2.446 ms  2.445 ms  2.518 ms
  3  96.176.191.1 (96.176.191.1)  24.451 ms  25.398 ms  28.688 ms
  4  xe-11-0-0-0-sur01.a2atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.85.91.177)
  14.588 ms  15.541 ms  15.733 ms
  5  xe-2-1-3-0-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.57)
  16.563 ms  16.929 ms  16.946 ms
  6  pos-3-6-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.201)
  17.967 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net(68.86.93.125)  
 14.599 ms  11.428 ms
  7  4.28.24.77 (4.28.24.77)  15.973 ms  17.858 ms  17.307 ms
  8  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  19.688 ms
 vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.126)  14.891 ms
 vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  15.116 ms
  9  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.651 ms
 ae-63-63.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.241)  13.767 ms
 ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.955 ms
 10  ae-7-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.134.21)  34.004 ms  36.807 ms
  34.950 ms
 11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  66.601 ms
  65.766 ms  66.692 ms
 12  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.202)  78.577 ms  78.007
 ms  78.175 ms
 13  ae-1-100.ebr1.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.109)  78.594 ms
  78.520 ms ae-5-5.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.142)  81.371 ms
 14  ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  71.989 ms
 ae-5-5.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.138)  77.341 ms
 ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  77.662 ms
 15  ae-62-62.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.18)  80.375 ms
 ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.2)  87.895 ms
 ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  77.137 ms
 16  ae-31-90.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.203)  77.660 ms
 ae-41-80.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.139)  78.313 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.11)  77.746 ms
 17  * * *
 18  * * *
 19  * * *
 20  * * *
 21  * * *
 22  * * *
 23  * * *
 24  * * *
 25  * * *
 26  * * *
 27  * * *
  28  * * *
 29  * * *
 30  * * *

 Thanks for looking into this.
 Philip

 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.com
  wrote:

 Our network provider did not find anything wrong. If anyone is
 currently seeing slow download times, I would like to see a traceroute to
 the server.

 Thanks,
 -Bill


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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-15 Thread Dmitry Titov
over here in Seattle I am getting 5KiB/s all day, no way to get an updated
checkout today :-(

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org wrote:

 Well I was just about to follow up that from the east coast on Comcast
 bbone, I'm pulling at acceptable rates from git.webkit.org, ~700KiB/s.
  That's about as fast as it's always been.  Same goes for
 nightly.webkit.org.

 There's a number of possible issues that would result in slow response
 times and slow downloads.  E.g., it could be sheer packet loss between
 carrier backbones and not necessarily tapped bandwidth.


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

 I don't really think checking the latency is interesting. What's killing
 us is bandwidth. As far as I tested yesterday, the ping at my work (Google
 SF office) gives me a reasonable time as well.

 There's something that's killing our bandwidth. Does anyone know some
 tools to investigate this?

 - Ryosuke


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.orgwrote:

 Ditto, @ ae-11-70 attempting to get to ae-21-60 the trace dies.  Pings
 to svn.webkit.org succeed in acceptable times however, for me.  Perhaps
 the hops following ae-11-70 and ae-21-60 simple aren't able to reply with
 proper ICMP packets; no real conclusion to based on that info alone, but
 maybe worth passing off to the provider and/or directly to Level3.

 Jarred


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Levi Weintraub le...@google.comwrote:

 Likewise, I lose everything past *.car1.sanjose2.level3.net. SVN
 updates are dog slow :(

  6  pr01-xe-8-2-0.sjc07.net.google.com (72.14.218.230)  4.306 ms
  4.966 ms *
  7  xe-11-1-0.edge2.sanjose3.level3.net (4.79.40.153)  20.116 ms
  3.031 ms  3.056 ms
  8  ae-31-90.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.203)  4.316 ms
 ae-11-70.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.75)  4.239 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.11)  4.545 ms
  9  * * *
 10  * * *
 11  * * *


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:

 Bill,

 I'm currently pulling from svn.webkit.org at what feels like 5kbps,
 and poor http://build.webkit.org/console hits the page refresh before
 it's even able to render to the bottom :(

 Below is a traceroute to webkit.org:
 traceroute to svn.webkit.org (17.254.20.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte
 packets
   1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.1)  0.233 ms  0.297 ms  0.371 ms
  2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  2.446 ms  2.445 ms  2.518 ms
  3  96.176.191.1 (96.176.191.1)  24.451 ms  25.398 ms  28.688 ms
  4  xe-11-0-0-0-sur01.a2atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.85.91.177)
  14.588 ms  15.541 ms  15.733 ms
  5  xe-2-1-3-0-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.57)
  16.563 ms  16.929 ms  16.946 ms
  6  pos-3-6-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.201)
  17.967 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net(68.86.93.125)  
 14.599 ms  11.428 ms
  7  4.28.24.77 (4.28.24.77)  15.973 ms  17.858 ms  17.307 ms
  8  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  19.688 ms
 vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.126)  14.891 ms
 vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  15.116 ms
  9  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.651 ms
 ae-63-63.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.241)  13.767 ms
 ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.955 ms
 10  ae-7-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.134.21)  34.004 ms  36.807
 ms  34.950 ms
 11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  66.601 ms
  65.766 ms  66.692 ms
 12  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.202)  78.577 ms  78.007
 ms  78.175 ms
 13  ae-1-100.ebr1.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.109)  78.594 ms
  78.520 ms ae-5-5.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.142)  81.371 ms
 14  ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  71.989 ms
 ae-5-5.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.138)  77.341 ms
 ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  77.662 ms
 15  ae-62-62.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.18)  80.375 ms
 ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.2)  87.895 ms
 ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  77.137 ms
 16  ae-31-90.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.203)  77.660 ms
 ae-41-80.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.139)  78.313 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.11)  77.746 ms
 17  * * *
 18  * * *
 19  * * *
 20  * * *
 21  * * *
 22  * * *
 23  * * *
 24  * * *
 25  * * *
 26  * * *
 27  * * *
  28  * * *
 29  * * *
 30  * * *

 Thanks for looking into this.
 Philip

 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM, William Siegrist 
 wsiegr...@apple.com wrote:

 Our network provider did not find anything wrong. If anyone is
 currently seeing slow download times, I would like to see a traceroute to
 the server.

 Thanks,
 -Bill


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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-15 Thread Levi Weintraub
Likewise in Mountain View... it's making WebKit gardening impossible :(

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Dmitry Titov dim...@chromium.org wrote:

 over here in Seattle I am getting 5KiB/s all day, no way to get an updated
 checkout today :-(


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.orgwrote:

 Well I was just about to follow up that from the east coast on Comcast
 bbone, I'm pulling at acceptable rates from git.webkit.org, ~700KiB/s.
  That's about as fast as it's always been.  Same goes for
 nightly.webkit.org.

 There's a number of possible issues that would result in slow response
 times and slow downloads.  E.g., it could be sheer packet loss between
 carrier backbones and not necessarily tapped bandwidth.


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

 I don't really think checking the latency is interesting. What's killing
 us is bandwidth. As far as I tested yesterday, the ping at my work (Google
 SF office) gives me a reasonable time as well.

 There's something that's killing our bandwidth. Does anyone know some
 tools to investigate this?

 - Ryosuke


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.orgwrote:

 Ditto, @ ae-11-70 attempting to get to ae-21-60 the trace dies.  Pings
 to svn.webkit.org succeed in acceptable times however, for me.
  Perhaps the hops following ae-11-70 and ae-21-60 simple aren't able to
 reply with proper ICMP packets; no real conclusion to based on that info
 alone, but maybe worth passing off to the provider and/or directly to
 Level3.

 Jarred


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Levi Weintraub le...@google.comwrote:

 Likewise, I lose everything past *.car1.sanjose2.level3.net. SVN
 updates are dog slow :(

  6  pr01-xe-8-2-0.sjc07.net.google.com (72.14.218.230)  4.306 ms
  4.966 ms *
  7  xe-11-1-0.edge2.sanjose3.level3.net (4.79.40.153)  20.116 ms
  3.031 ms  3.056 ms
  8  ae-31-90.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.203)  4.316 ms
 ae-11-70.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.75)  4.239 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.11)  4.545 ms
  9  * * *
 10  * * *
 11  * * *


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:

 Bill,

 I'm currently pulling from svn.webkit.org at what feels like 5kbps,
 and poor http://build.webkit.org/console hits the page refresh
 before it's even able to render to the bottom :(

 Below is a traceroute to webkit.org:
 traceroute to svn.webkit.org (17.254.20.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte
 packets
   1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.1)  0.233 ms  0.297 ms  0.371 ms
  2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  2.446 ms  2.445 ms  2.518 ms
  3  96.176.191.1 (96.176.191.1)  24.451 ms  25.398 ms  28.688 ms
  4  xe-11-0-0-0-sur01.a2atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net(68.85.91.177)  
 14.588 ms  15.541 ms  15.733 ms
  5  xe-2-1-3-0-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.57)
  16.563 ms  16.929 ms  16.946 ms
  6  pos-3-6-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.201)
  17.967 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net(68.86.93.125)  
 14.599 ms  11.428 ms
  7  4.28.24.77 (4.28.24.77)  15.973 ms  17.858 ms  17.307 ms
  8  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  19.688 ms
 vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.126)  14.891 ms
 vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  15.116 ms
  9  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.651 ms
 ae-63-63.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.241)  13.767 ms
 ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.955 ms
 10  ae-7-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.134.21)  34.004 ms  36.807
 ms  34.950 ms
 11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  66.601 ms
  65.766 ms  66.692 ms
 12  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.202)  78.577 ms
  78.007 ms  78.175 ms
 13  ae-1-100.ebr1.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.109)  78.594 ms
  78.520 ms ae-5-5.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.142)  81.371 ms
 14  ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  71.989 ms
 ae-5-5.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.138)  77.341 ms
 ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  77.662 ms
 15  ae-62-62.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.18)  80.375 ms
 ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.2)  87.895 ms
 ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  77.137 ms
 16  ae-31-90.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.203)  77.660 ms
 ae-41-80.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.139)  78.313 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.11)  77.746 ms
 17  * * *
 18  * * *
 19  * * *
 20  * * *
 21  * * *
 22  * * *
 23  * * *
 24  * * *
 25  * * *
 26  * * *
 27  * * *
  28  * * *
 29  * * *
 30  * * *

 Thanks for looking into this.
 Philip

 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM, William Siegrist 
 wsiegr...@apple.com wrote:

 Our network provider did not find anything wrong. If anyone is
 currently seeing slow download times, I would like to see a traceroute 
 to
 the server.

 Thanks,
 -Bill


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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-15 Thread William Siegrist
Thanks everyone for the debugging information. We are working on both hardware 
and software solutions, but I have no ETA to give you. 

-Bill



On Mar 15, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Levi Weintraub le...@google.com wrote:

 Likewise in Mountain View... it's making WebKit gardening impossible :(
 
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Dmitry Titov dim...@chromium.org wrote:
 over here in Seattle I am getting 5KiB/s all day, no way to get an updated 
 checkout today :-(
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org wrote:
 Well I was just about to follow up that from the east coast on Comcast bbone, 
 I'm pulling at acceptable rates from git.webkit.org, ~700KiB/s.  That's about 
 as fast as it's always been.  Same goes for nightly.webkit.org.
 
 There's a number of possible issues that would result in slow response times 
 and slow downloads.  E.g., it could be sheer packet loss between carrier 
 backbones and not necessarily tapped bandwidth.
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
 I don't really think checking the latency is interesting. What's killing us 
 is bandwidth. As far as I tested yesterday, the ping at my work (Google SF 
 office) gives me a reasonable time as well.
 
 There's something that's killing our bandwidth. Does anyone know some tools 
 to investigate this?
 
 - Ryosuke
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org wrote:
 Ditto, @ ae-11-70 attempting to get to ae-21-60 the trace dies.  Pings to 
 svn.webkit.org succeed in acceptable times however, for me.  Perhaps the hops 
 following ae-11-70 and ae-21-60 simple aren't able to reply with proper ICMP 
 packets; no real conclusion to based on that info alone, but maybe worth 
 passing off to the provider and/or directly to Level3.
 
 Jarred
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Levi Weintraub le...@google.com wrote:
 Likewise, I lose everything past *.car1.sanjose2.level3.net. SVN updates are 
 dog slow :(
 
  6  pr01-xe-8-2-0.sjc07.net.google.com (72.14.218.230)  4.306 ms  4.966 ms *
  7  xe-11-1-0.edge2.sanjose3.level3.net (4.79.40.153)  20.116 ms  3.031 ms  
 3.056 ms
  8  ae-31-90.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.203)  4.316 ms
 ae-11-70.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.75)  4.239 ms
 ae-21-60.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.11)  4.545 ms
  9  * * *
 10  * * *
 11  * * *
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:
 Bill,
 
 I'm currently pulling from svn.webkit.org at what feels like 5kbps, and poor 
 http://build.webkit.org/console hits the page refresh before it's even able 
 to render to the bottom :(
 
 Below is a traceroute to webkit.org:
 traceroute to svn.webkit.org (17.254.20.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
  1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.1)  0.233 ms  0.297 ms  0.371 ms
  2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  2.446 ms  2.445 ms  2.518 ms
  3  96.176.191.1 (96.176.191.1)  24.451 ms  25.398 ms  28.688 ms
  4  xe-11-0-0-0-sur01.a2atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.85.91.177)  14.588 
 ms  15.541 ms  15.733 ms
  5  xe-2-1-3-0-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.57)  16.563 
 ms  16.929 ms  16.946 ms
  6  pos-3-6-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.201)  17.967 ms 
 pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.125)  14.599 ms  
 11.428 ms
  7  4.28.24.77 (4.28.24.77)  15.973 ms  17.858 ms  17.307 ms
  8  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  19.688 ms 
 vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.126)  14.891 ms 
 vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  15.116 ms
  9  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.651 ms 
 ae-63-63.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.241)  13.767 ms 
 ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.955 ms
 10  ae-7-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.134.21)  34.004 ms  36.807 ms  
 34.950 ms
 11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  66.601 ms  65.766 ms  
 66.692 ms
 12  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.202)  78.577 ms  78.007 ms  
 78.175 ms
 13  ae-1-100.ebr1.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.109)  78.594 ms  78.520 ms 
 ae-5-5.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.142)  81.371 ms
 14  ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  71.989 ms 
 ae-5-5.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.138)  77.341 ms 
 ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  77.662 ms
 15  ae-62-62.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.18)  80.375 ms 
 ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.2)  87.895 ms 
 ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  77.137 ms
 16  ae-31-90.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.203)  77.660 ms 
 ae-41-80.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.139)  78.313 ms 
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 Thanks for looking into this.
 Philip
 
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.com 
 wrote:
 Our network 

Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-15 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Do you know what is causing the issue?

- Ryosuke

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:43 PM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.comwrote:

 Thanks everyone for the debugging information. We are working on both
 hardware and software solutions, but I have no ETA to give you.

 -Bill



 On Mar 15, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Levi Weintraub le...@google.com wrote:

  Likewise in Mountain View... it's making WebKit gardening impossible :(
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Dmitry Titov dim...@chromium.org
 wrote:
  over here in Seattle I am getting 5KiB/s all day, no way to get an
 updated checkout today :-(
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org
 wrote:
  Well I was just about to follow up that from the east coast on Comcast
 bbone, I'm pulling at acceptable rates from git.webkit.org, ~700KiB/s.
  That's about as fast as it's always been.  Same goes for
 nightly.webkit.org.
 
  There's a number of possible issues that would result in slow response
 times and slow downloads.  E.g., it could be sheer packet loss between
 carrier backbones and not necessarily tapped bandwidth.
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM,
 Ryosuke Niwa
 Software Engineer
 Google Inc.


 rn...@webkit.org wrote:
  I don't really think checking the latency is interesting. What's killing
 us is bandwidth. As far as I tested yesterday, the ping at my work (Google
 SF office) gives me a reasonable time as well.
 
  There's something that's killing our bandwidth. Does anyone know some
 tools to investigate this?
 
  - Ryosuke
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Jarred Nicholls jar...@webkit.org
 wrote:
  Ditto, @ ae-11-70 attempting to get to ae-21-60 the trace dies.  Pings
 to svn.webkit.org succeed in acceptable times however, for me.  Perhaps
 the hops following ae-11-70 and ae-21-60 simple aren't able to reply with
 proper ICMP packets; no real conclusion to based on that info alone, but
 maybe worth passing off to the provider and/or directly to Level3.
 
  Jarred
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Levi Weintraub le...@google.com
 wrote:
  Likewise, I lose everything past *.car1.sanjose2.level3.net. SVN
 updates are dog slow :(
 
   6  pr01-xe-8-2-0.sjc07.net.google.com (72.14.218.230)  4.306 ms  4.966
 ms *
   7  xe-11-1-0.edge2.sanjose3.level3.net (4.79.40.153)  20.116 ms  3.031
 ms  3.056 ms
   8  ae-31-90.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.203)  4.316 ms
  ae-11-70.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.75)  4.239 ms
  ae-21-60.car1.sanjose2.level3.net (4.69.152.11)  4.545 ms
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  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Philip Rogers p...@google.com wrote:
  Bill,
 
  I'm currently pulling from svn.webkit.org at what feels like 5kbps, and
 poor http://build.webkit.org/console hits the page refresh before it's
 even able to render to the bottom :(
 
  Below is a traceroute to webkit.org:
  traceroute to svn.webkit.org (17.254.20.241), 30 hops max, 60 byte
 packets
   1  DD-WRT (192.168.2.1)  0.233 ms  0.297 ms  0.371 ms
   2  10.1.10.1 (10.1.10.1)  2.446 ms  2.445 ms  2.518 ms
   3  96.176.191.1 (96.176.191.1)  24.451 ms  25.398 ms  28.688 ms
   4  xe-11-0-0-0-sur01.a2atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.85.91.177)
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   5  xe-2-1-3-0-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.57)
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  17.967 ms pos-3-5-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.93.125)
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   8  vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  19.688 ms
 vlan52.ebr2.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.126)  14.891 ms
 vlan51.ebr1.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.150.62)  15.116 ms
   9  ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.651 ms
 ae-63-63.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.241)  13.767 ms
 ae-73-73.ebr3.Atlanta2.Level3.net (4.69.148.253)  14.955 ms
  10  ae-7-7.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net (4.69.134.21)  34.004 ms  36.807 ms
  34.950 ms
  11  ae-3-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.69.132.77)  66.601 ms  65.766
 ms  66.692 ms
  12  ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.202)  78.577 ms  78.007
 ms  78.175 ms
  13  ae-1-100.ebr1.SanJose5.Level3.net (4.69.148.109)  78.594 ms  78.520
 ms ae-5-5.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.142)  81.371 ms
  14  ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  71.989 ms
 ae-5-5.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.148.138)  77.341 ms
 ae-34-34.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.33)  77.662 ms
  15  ae-62-62.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.18)  80.375 ms
 ae-61-61.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.2)  87.895 ms
 ae-81-81.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.10)  77.137 ms
  16  ae-31-90.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.203)  77.660 ms
 ae-41-80.car1.SanJose2.Level3.net (4.69.152.139)  78.313 ms
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[webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-14 Thread Nikolas Zimmermann
Good morning WebKit crowd,

since at least some weeks, updating git.webkit.org and/or svn.webkit.org is 
extremely slow for me.
I have a git fetch rate below 3KiB/s average - surfing the web and/or 
downloading anything else is acceptable with my 10MBit connection.
I'm located near Cologne, in Germany -- do any other european WebKittens suffer 
from the same problems?

I heard the fetch rate in the US is much faster 800+ KiB/s. Does anyone know 
whats going on?

Cheers,
Niko

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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-14 Thread Nikolas Zimmermann

Am 14.03.2012 um 09:31 schrieb Nikolas Zimmermann:

 Good morning WebKit crowd,
 
 since at least some weeks, updating git.webkit.org and/or svn.webkit.org is 
 extremely slow for me.
 I have a git fetch rate below 3KiB/s average - surfing the web and/or 
 downloading anything else is acceptable with my 10MBit connection.
 I'm located near Cologne, in Germany -- do any other european WebKittens 
 suffer from the same problems?


For the record:
Per morritas advices, I tried git remote add mirror 
http://git.chromium.org/external/Webkit.git  git fetch mirror.
That gives me around 500 KiB/s here, which is completely acceptable.

Still it would be great to find the cause why git.webkit.org is so slow.
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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-14 Thread Ashod Nakashian
 From: Nikolas Zimmermann zimmerm...@physik.rwth-aachen.de
 To: WebKit Development webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:31 AM
 Subject: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow
 
G ood morning WebKit crowd,
 
 since at least some weeks, updating git.webkit.org and/or svn.webkit.org is 
 extremely slow for me.
 I have a git fetch rate below 3KiB/s average - surfing the web and/or 
 downloading anything else is acceptable with my 10MBit connection.
 I'm located near Cologne, in Germany -- do any other european WebKittens 
 suffer from the same problems?

I'm in Yerevan, Armenia and git-svn is painfully slow for me. I haven't 
benchmarked it but even 'git svn fetch' after 'git fetch' takes several minutes 
where 'svn up' is very fast indeed. My connection is otherwise 16Mbps symetric.

-Ash

 
 I heard the fetch rate in the US is much faster 800+ KiB/s. Does anyone know 
 whats going on?
 
 Cheers,
 Niko
 
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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-14 Thread Robert Hogan
On Wednesday 14 March 2012 08:44:46 Ashod Nakashian wrote:
  From: Nikolas Zimmermann zimmerm...@physik.rwth-aachen.de
  To: WebKit Development webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
  Cc:
  Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:31 AM
  Subject: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow
 
 G ood morning WebKit crowd,
 
  since at least some weeks, updating git.webkit.org and/or
  svn.webkit.org is extremely slow for me.
  I have a git fetch rate below 3KiB/s average - surfing the web and/or
  downloading anything else is acceptable with my 10MBit connection.
  I'm located near Cologne, in Germany -- do any other european
  WebKittens suffer from the same problems?
 

It has always been pretty slow for me too (Ireland), occasionally as bad as 
you describe but more often in the 80-100KiB/s average. Thanks for sharing 
the chromium mirror tip.

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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-14 Thread William Siegrist
On Mar 14, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Robert Hogan li...@roberthogan.net wrote:

 On Wednesday 14 March 2012 08:44:46 Ashod Nakashian wrote:
 From: Nikolas Zimmermann zimmerm...@physik.rwth-aachen.de
 To: WebKit Development webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
 Cc:
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:31 AM
 Subject: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow
 
 G ood morning WebKit crowd,
 
 since at least some weeks, updating git.webkit.org and/or
 svn.webkit.org is extremely slow for me.
 I have a git fetch rate below 3KiB/s average - surfing the web and/or
 downloading anything else is acceptable with my 10MBit connection.
 I'm located near Cologne, in Germany -- do any other european
 WebKittens suffer from the same problems?
 
 
 It has always been pretty slow for me too (Ireland), occasionally as bad as 
 you describe but more often in the 80-100KiB/s average. Thanks for sharing 
 the chromium mirror tip.
 


Our network provider is looking into our bandwidth problems. It looks like this 
may affect more than just git or svn. 

-Bill

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Re: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow

2012-03-14 Thread James Robinson
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:08 PM, William Siegrist wsiegr...@apple.comwrote:

 On Mar 14, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Robert Hogan li...@roberthogan.net wrote:

  On Wednesday 14 March 2012 08:44:46 Ashod Nakashian wrote:
  From: Nikolas Zimmermann zimmerm...@physik.rwth-aachen.de
  To: WebKit Development webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org
  Cc:
  Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:31 AM
  Subject: [webkit-dev] Git/SVN is slow
 
  G ood morning WebKit crowd,
 
  since at least some weeks, updating git.webkit.org and/or
  svn.webkit.org is extremely slow for me.
  I have a git fetch rate below 3KiB/s average - surfing the web and/or
  downloading anything else is acceptable with my 10MBit connection.
  I'm located near Cologne, in Germany -- do any other european
  WebKittens suffer from the same problems?
 
 
  It has always been pretty slow for me too (Ireland), occasionally as bad
 as
  you describe but more often in the 80-100KiB/s average. Thanks for
 sharing
  the chromium mirror tip.
 


 Our network provider is looking into our bandwidth problems. It looks like
 this may affect more than just git or svn.


For the record this is not only an issue with overseas connections.   I've
seen extremely slow pull times as well and lots of 500s from various
webkit.org servers.  I'm in Mountain View, CA and have what I would
consider to be ample bandwidth available to the internet.

- James


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