Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice-Extensions-Template-Website

2011-06-21 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-06-20 18:42, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :

Marc Paré wrote:

Regarding one of those items on the wiki page: Extension transfer from
OOo repository , we should make sure that if we do this that we try to
find the author of the extensions to give proper attribution. When I
looked at the templates and hoped to transfer some from the OOo site,
most of these did not have the author's contact

As for the extensions, they are ZIP files and you can often (not always,
unfortunately) unzip them and find a README.txt file with author names
and contact details.

As for templates, the policy of templates.services.openoffice.org forces
some document properties to be filled in in the file itself before you
can upload a template. By inspecting the document properties, you will
find some details; the templates I uploaded are complete with contact
details, but I'm not sure about the rest.


we should include in our documentation of any of the submissions of
extensions/templates that the author's email is part of the contributing
form.

I think it's smarter to actually inspect the file, because this way the
basic information is embedded in the template and is carried around
every time it is copied. This is one of the nice things that make
templates.services.openoffice.org an interesting site (just in terms of
underlying technology).

Regards,
   Andrea.



Thanks for the interesting information Andrea.

IMO, if we are going to make these available on our site we should make 
it so that people do not have to go to these extremes to find the 
author's email address. I like the idea that the emails are embedded 
some way in the extension/template itself, but the email address should 
also be available for people to see as one of the section in the file 
description itself. This will add a little more transparency as far as 
the original submitter's identity.


Cheers

Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice-Extensions-Template-Website

2011-06-21 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Rainer

Le 2011-06-21 01:56, Rainer Bielefeld a écrit :

Marc Paré schrieb:


Regarding one of those items on the wiki page: Extension transfer from
OOo repository , we should make sure that if we do this that we try to
find the author of the extensions  ...


Hi Marc,

yes, of course:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Talk:Extensions_Repository#Extension_transfer_from_OOo_repository 



Kind regards

Rainer


Thanks. Is this to be run along with Andreas' Extension/Template site[1]?

Cheers

Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Manifiesto de apoyo.

2011-06-21 Thread Italo Vignoli
Il giorno 21/giu/2011, alle ore 02:28, drew d...@baseanswers.com ha scritto:

 Ah - as soon as I sent that I thought - the humor is not going to carry
 
 across, you would think I'd have learned that by now... I was just being
 playful. (it is one of the hardest things for me to get used to in our
 multi-lingual environment.

Drew, I got the humor, but it's darn difficult to keep up in a foreign language 
(and with a different sense of humor: i.e. you get the anglo-saxon humor, but 
you tend to reply with your verbose latin humor, which sometimes sounds 
terrible in English).
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Manifiesto de apoyo.

2011-06-21 Thread Olivier Hallot


Em 21-06-2011 00:47, Marc Paré escreveu:

Le 2011-06-20 18:31, Italo Vignoli a écrit :

On 06/20/2011 11:52 PM, drew wrote:


Then I have a few ideas for moving forward in general and will put them
to into a new email thread, alright?


+1

I am actually writing a document that fits into this discussion, and 
will provide food for thoughts to the community, or maybe a reason to 
insult me ;-)


Sounds good. So we will either wait to hear from Olivier on the status 
of his request, wait for new criteria to apply these types of requests 
or to hear from either praises or insults from Italo's document. :-)


Cheers,

Marc


Folks,

I just picked the request from the info@ list, as anybody could have 
picked it. Since there will be a set of criteria that applies to all of 
the supporters, why not going through with this one? I have no business 
at all with them.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice-Extensions-Template-Website

2011-06-21 Thread Italo Vignoli

On 6/20/11 1:59 AM, Marc Paré wrote:


Could you point me to any page with the results of these discussions. I
seem to have missed it somehow.


We had a lot of face to face and phone discussions before the launch, 
but you won't find any trace of them (other than the memory of each 
participant).


Also, discussions with FSF were mostly by private email and phone, and 
were supposed to clarify our position vs proprietary extensions before 
FSF statement (we explained why we double license LGPLv3+ and MPL, as 
MPL is not the preferred FSF license).


By the way, we use the MPL license to suit the needs of companies like 
IBM who want to build a proprietary version of the software, although US 
corporations have a preference for Apache License which it is not 
copyleft (MPL is defined as weak copyleft).


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Manifiesto de apoyo.

2011-06-21 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-06-21 06:09, Olivier Hallot a écrit :


Em 21-06-2011 00:47, Marc Paré escreveu:

Le 2011-06-20 18:31, Italo Vignoli a écrit :

On 06/20/2011 11:52 PM, drew wrote:

Then I have a few ideas for moving forward in general and will put 
them

to into a new email thread, alright?


+1

I am actually writing a document that fits into this discussion, and 
will provide food for thoughts to the community, or maybe a reason 
to insult me ;-)


Sounds good. So we will either wait to hear from Olivier on the 
status of his request, wait for new criteria to apply these types of 
requests or to hear from either praises or insults from Italo's 
document. :-)


Cheers,

Marc


Folks,

I just picked the request from the info@ list, as anybody could have 
picked it. Since there will be a set of criteria that applies to all 
of the supporters, why not going through with this one? I have no 
business at all with them.


Kind regards


Hi Olivier

Done[1], Let me know if there is anything that you would like to change.

Marc

[1] https://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Page on Security issues?

2011-06-21 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi,

Le Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:03:51 +0200,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hi,
 
 Marc Paré wrote on 2011-06-10 14.57:
 
  We had spoken about this a few months ago and it was decided to wait
  until the project was in full swing. I think it is now a good
  idea to create the page. Not only will it help in informing
  people/groups of security issues and patches, but it will also help
  in giving comfort to those who need to see the page.
 
  Who will add the security issues and where would we find these? Do
  we track these already and do we offer patches for security issues?
 
 indeed, that would be a good idea. Cc'ing our security team - folks, 
 what do you think? Do we have a list of what has been fixed in the 
 latest releases that can be made public (briefly)?
 
 Florian
 

I got pinged back by the same people. They tell me that the IT security
agency here still lists OpenOffice 3.3 as it can get news from the
security advisory page on openoffice.org while they can't have it from
us...

Thanks,

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The Document Foundation.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Archived-At: links not working since May 31th?

2011-06-21 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Christian Lohmaier
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote:
 [...]
 As the cause of why the indexing cronjob did not start/complete is
 unknown (the manual run did complete fine), it might break again for
 new postings, but they're investigating

 http://www.mail-archive.com/gossip@jab.org/msg01398.html

And they were successful in investigating why it stopped working
http://www.mail-archive.com/gossip@jab.org/msg01409.html

[...] I think I've finally traced the problem to a May 30 operating
system update. [...]

So when you now consider problems again, please raise your hand.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice-Extensions-Template-Website

2011-06-21 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-06-21 07:14, Italo Vignoli a écrit :

On 6/20/11 1:59 AM, Marc Paré wrote:


Could you point me to any page with the results of these discussions. I
seem to have missed it somehow.


We had a lot of face to face and phone discussions before the launch, 
but you won't find any trace of them (other than the memory of each 
participant).


Also, discussions with FSF were mostly by private email and phone, and 
were supposed to clarify our position vs proprietary extensions before 
FSF statement (we explained why we double license LGPLv3+ and MPL, as 
MPL is not the preferred FSF license).


By the way, we use the MPL license to suit the needs of companies like 
IBM who want to build a proprietary version of the software, although 
US corporations have a preference for Apache License which it is not 
copyleft (MPL is defined as weak copyleft).


Thanks for the explanation. I think it would be nice to have our 
statement on the matter published somewhere on our website.


As for the comment of  although US corporations have a preference for 
Apache License which it is not copyleft (MPL is defined as weak 
copyleft), IMO it's more of a cultural thing. We, in North America, are 
used to seeing big business and hearing of for-profit philosophies 
and little of opensource philosophy. I remember as early as the last 
year and a half of hearing people say at school board IT meetings that 
installing Linux on boxes was considered illegal if MSWindows are not 
installed and my countering with the fact that I was a whitebox dealer 
who sold boxes with Linux installed on it and that my sales were going 
fine and were definitely not illegal, OR, also hearing from some of my 
US colleagues in the educational field that opensource is considered 
un-American because there is no profit involved. This type of attitude 
are chronicled in articles such as this: 
[http://www.serverwatch.com/trends/article.php/3868046/Open-Source-Software-Bad-Evil-and-Un-American.htm].


This is some of the mind-set that some of us harbour in North America. 
It's organization like ours and our supporting partners that will make a 
difference in changing attitudes in North America.


BTW ... this is a neat article to read re: the spread of opensource 
software in North America: 
[http://www.serverwatch.com/trends/article.php/3868046/Open-Source-Software-Bad-Evil-and-Un-American.htm], 
which brings home the importance of having LibreOffice ready for 
large-scale installations. We need to make our LibreOffice more 
attractive by providing administrative tools to ease large-scale 
installation as well as administrative tools for managing installation 
preferences remotely.


Cheers,

Marc

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