[libreoffice-website] Bug hunting session quick download link not (yet) OK

2018-10-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi,

Link on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugHuntingSession/6.2.0Alpha
under quick start:
   https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/?version=6.2.0
shows the page with 6.1 and 6.0

And I don't think that the download page will show an alpha soon :)

Also not sure if we already want to show 6.2 on
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

So point to pre-releases
 https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/
or nightly builds
 https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/
?

Thanks for Kees from Dutch list for noticing,
Cor

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[libreoffice-website] 6.0 release sys requirements on website

2018-01-31 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi,

Version 6.0 does not support installation on Windows XP and Vista.
Probably this info is useful for the page
  https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/

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[libreoffice-website] Happy New Year

2018-01-01 Thread Cor Nouws
All the best for 2018, with many visitors enjoying all our service and
info on the websites,
With joy & growth in each ones personal life,

Cor

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[libreoffice-website] download page new style

2017-12-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all,

People start noticing that our Dutch download page is rather oldish,
compared to the nice new global one.
How can we do the same version in Dutch?
(Obvious that I didn't notice the info somewhere in my mail).

Cheers,
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[libreoffice-website] roles in aks.libreoffice.org/nl

2017-02-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi,

How can someone (me and others) get moderator rights?

Thanks,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: New Version of LibreOffice Added

2017-02-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Florian Effenberger wrote on 13-02-17 08:14:

> Cor Nouws wrote on 2017-02-12 at 13:47:
>>  > error 1486903515.140.621713553734.
> 
> is there some more detail/human-readable message attached? If not,
> that's something for the todo list - for the new site we clearly wanted
> to have better error parsing and reporting, for both admins and end-users.

png attached for the people CC.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: New Version of LibreOffice Added

2017-02-12 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 12-02-17 10:40:
>>> Instruction on where to find the way to update the extension, is much
>>> appreciated.
>>>
> I'll work in that.

Thanks.
I received a notification that there is a new LibreOffice version
listed, so it's not strange that I try to update the info for the extension?

> I couldn't find the error message in the list yet. Could you please
> describe the steps to reproduce it?

- I log in.
- Search for my extension via the box top right (there aint no list in
my profile?)
- Select CT2N
- Choose Edit in the bar left
- In the view there is the Full Project Description; I add some text
- Click on Save.
 > error 1486903515.140.621713553734.

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[libreoffice-website] Re: New Version of LibreOffice Added

2017-02-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all,

nore...@libreoffice.org wrote on 07-02-17 22:12:
> We added a new version of LibreOffice to the list.
> Please add this version to your LibreOffice extension release(s), if it is 
> (they are) compatible with this version.

Instruction on where to find the way to update the extension, is much
appreciated.

thanks,
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[libreoffice-website] Re: New Version of LibreOffice Added

2017-02-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Error 1486853239.80.198727463138. after update of description


Cor Nouws wrote on 11-02-17 23:43:
> Hi all,
> 
> nore...@libreoffice.org wrote on 07-02-17 22:12:
>> We added a new version of LibreOffice to the list.
>> Please add this version to your LibreOffice extension release(s), if it is 
>> (they are) compatible with this version.
> 
> Instruction on where to find the way to update the extension, is much
> appreciated.
> 
> thanks,
> Cor
> 
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-website] translate question in ask.libreoffice.org/xx/question ?

2016-11-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Dennis Roczek wrote on 15-11-16 14:43:

>> Cor Nouws wrote on 04-11-16 15:34:
>>> Question: can the word "questions" in the url Dutch (nl)
>>> https://ask.libreoffice.org/nl/questions/ be replaced with the Dutch
>>> equivalent "vragen" - without too much hassle of course?
> 
> yes, it is in transiflex' Askbot translation. Translate askbot. ;-)

We are working on translation, so that is fine.
And we don't need to create a Redmine ticket.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] translate question in ask.libreoffice.org/xx/question ?

2016-11-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Mailing this question again.

Cor Nouws wrote on 04-11-16 15:34:
> Hi *
> 
> [Taken from "[libreoffice-l10n] Get Help menu in LO: add your link"]
> 
> 
> Sophie wrote on 04-11-16 10:31:
> 
>> Please, have a look at this ticket and add your link if needed or tell
>> what is the fall back if you don't have any link.
>> https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1983#change-10737
> 
> Question: can the word "questions" in the url Dutch (nl)
> https://ask.libreoffice.org/nl/questions/ be replaced with the Dutch
> equivalent "vragen" - without too much hassle of course?
> 
> Ciao - Cor
> 
> 


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[libreoffice-website] translate question in ask.libreoffice.org/xx/question ?

2016-11-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi *

[Taken from "[libreoffice-l10n] Get Help menu in LO: add your link"]


Sophie wrote on 04-11-16 10:31:

> Please, have a look at this ticket and add your link if needed or tell
> what is the fall back if you don't have any link.
> https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1983#change-10737

Question: can the word "questions" in the url Dutch (nl)
https://ask.libreoffice.org/nl/questions/ be replaced with the Dutch
equivalent "vragen" - without too much hassle of course?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Translation Ask.LibreOffice

2016-10-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Olivier Hallot wrote on 17-10-16 11:43:

> You need to use Transifex service in
> https://www.transifex.com/
> get a login and ask Askbot project manager to add dutch to the language set

Does one need to make a 'Try for free' account ?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] some CommunityBylaws wiki page I cannot find ..

2016-09-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Regina Henschel wrote on 21-09-16 22:15:

>> https://wiki.documentdoundation.org/CommunityBylaws
>> https://wiki.documentdoundation.org/CommunityBylaws#Membership
>>
>> Anyone knows where that is now :) ?
> 
> That is still there, but they are superseded by the "Statutes"
> https://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/statutes/.

Thanks Regina. I'll take those.

Cor

NB Someone else pointed to the fact that 'documentdoundation' misses an
f and has a superfluous d ;)


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[libreoffice-website] some CommunityBylaws wiki page I cannot find ..

2016-09-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi,

We used to have
https://wiki.documentdoundation.org/CommunityBylaws
https://wiki.documentdoundation.org/CommunityBylaws#Membership

Anyone knows where that is now :) ?

thanks!
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[libreoffice-website] Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Error on site

2016-09-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all,

I could not see where to change that in Silverstripe.
  ( "Available Versions": link to "5.2.0" in stead of "5.2.1")
Someone else knows, maybe :)

Thanks!
Cor



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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Error on site
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 07:40:57 +0200
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Hello

On your page https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/

under "Available Versions" there is still a link to "5.2.0". I this
correct? Shoudn't it be "5.2.1"

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Re: [libreoffice-website] bugs.documentfoundation.org appears down

2016-08-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Dave wrote on 13-08-16 17:02:
> On 13.08.2016 16:43, Bruce Hohl wrote:
>> I lost connectivity just after attempting to edit the title to a newly
>> added bug report.
> 
> Sounds like a local issue with your connection. I am currently editing a
> bug report with no problems.

There was a restart of the DB in the afternoon - during a short time
window bugs.documentfoundation.org indeed was not available.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] extension site

2016-08-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 13-08-16 17:57:
> Am 13.08.2016 um 16:31 schrieb Cor Nouws:

>> A single action/button "update release for new LibreOffice version"
>> would make it easier to do however.
> Sorry if that sounds a bit harsch:
> the code of the current environment and also the one of the upcomming is
> open source under the GPL.
> The code of the used add-ons is hosted on github.com and public.

I don't take offense at that comment of course in a open source project.
We know there have been numerous attempts and efforts to change the
current situation in which you are lacking time to effectively handle
the work load and implement the improvements timely. We all know for
years they are needed. Attempts including funds, offerings and probably
numerous things that happened out of sight for me. Without effect until now.
In this light, I think your comment is rather unfortunate.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] extension site

2016-08-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 13-08-16 11:10:

> Am 12.08.2016 um 23:10 schrieb Cor Nouws:

>> Again I was confronted with the weird red warning on top of one of my
>> extension. I know there is a way to get rid of that, but .. ?
> 
> yes, it is!
> E.g. you could test your extension with the two latest LibreOffice main
> versions from last year, add this information to the extension release,

So for my own record (finding how to do this is always hard)

1. in the left colum, choose 'releases'
2. in the middle column, pick the desired one
3. in the green function/tool bar choose Edit
   change version in the list more at the bottom
4. in the green function/tool bar choose the menu from State: Finale
release and choose Re-release.

> republish the release and the user of your extension are happy, because
> they know that this release could be used with the current versions of
> LIbreOffice.
> 
>>
>> How will that be in the new extension site?
> 
> I think that I already provided this information many times: no.
> But in my opinion we need a frequent cleanup of the new website. Maybe
> all extensions that aren't tested with the latest four main releases
> should be hidden or (much better) removed from the site.

I'm not sure if that is needed. Speeking for myself: more then enough to
do and there is no harm if the extension is there without explicit
testing on newer versions.
A single action/button "update release for new LibreOffice version"
would make it easier to do however.

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[libreoffice-website] extension site

2016-08-12 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi,

Again I was confronted with the weird red warning on top of one of my
extension. I know there is a way to get rid of that, but .. ?

How will that be in the new extension site?

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[libreoffice-website] Get-involved sugestion and Redundancy on LibreOffice.org

2016-02-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi,

-1-
Below the text on http://www.libreoffice.org/community/get-involved/
there is only a "get the source code"-link. It would be clearer maybe if
there is mentioned something as: check all the possibilities in the
Community-menu.

-2-
Now that the TDF website is shiny and new: would it be an idea to change
pages on LibreOffice.org, such as
 http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/governance/
 http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/advisory-board-members/
 etc..
so that they only mention and direct to the TDF page on the subject?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 12-12-15 19:16:

> Due to some issues with the usability of the current website I decided
> to work on two new add-ons for the website to solve this issues a time
> ago. I worked on that add-ons a lot in my  spare time and finished a
> version for Plone 4.3 around the LibreOffice conference in Aarhus. This
> add-on versions used five.grok. But this add-on package will not be
> actively supported with the current version of Plone, Plone 5.0. Thus I
> decided to review my add-ons and drop the five.grok dependency. This
> made it necessary to create a lot of changes to the add-ons and nearly
> start from scratch. I got a new beta-version of them out now (after some
> weeks of work during my spare time).

Looking at these issues, and the fact that you repeatedly emphasize that
you do the work in your free time, I would suggest you to ask the board
to support the work, so that the most can be done in a project by
someone having normal time to do it. And that your, of course fully
understandable limited availability, is no longer a bottle neck. The
site is important enough for such a move, IMO.

> I created a new test website, that runs on a new shiny Plone 5.0:
> http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9103/loexttem5/en/extensions

Thanks for that, of course :)
Few remarks:
1) I was thinking about advantage when the split
Home | Extensions | Templates
is removed. Extensions are the landing page, for what the very vast
majority comes to the site.
A clear Instructions somewhere will be OK for people.

2) The search top-right is fine, but it is not clear that that is the
way to search for an extension..

3) Nearly two years ago we made a functional design for some pages.
Can you give an update (wiki?) on the status of the current work in
relation to that design?

Thanks a lot,
Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of new LibreOffice Extensions and Templates Website - Current Status

2016-01-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Andreas Mantke wrote on 10-01-16 18:45:
> Hi Cor,


> the development of the add-ons for the new site (in the revision) is
> nearly finished. I had to fix some smaller issues.
> 
> But there are some further steps, that had to be done by payed developer:
> 
> -- design of the new site
> -- content transfer from the current site to the new one
> -- adaption of one or two  important external add-ons for Plone 5

Will be great if there is progress on that part too!
It's already budgetted for?

>> Few remarks:

Thanks for the explanation!

> Could you provide a link to that page. Maybe I lost track.

I'm not sure if there ever was a wiki, but I found what we worked on here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:ExtensionsSite_IdeasOnContent_CorNouws_20140210.ods

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of the new Extensions and Templates Site

2015-10-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 18-10-15 11:52:

> You did the random navigating on the theming site or exttemptest-site or
> the theming one?

The theming one.
The exttemptest-site has the disadvantage that it still shows the odd
home page, where there is no extension ;)
On the new theming one "Browse Extension by Category" is better visible
and nice to use. But "Most recent Extension" and other stuff may use so
much vertical space, that "Browse" is out of site.

> I hope only on the theming-site because you didn't have an account there
> before.

Yes, I could not loggin on the theming site.
Works now, after I recieved the request. thanks.

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of the new Extensions and Templates Site

2015-10-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 03-10-15 09:14:
> Am 02.10.2015 um 21:09 schrieb Cor Nouws:

>> I'll do so when I've looked at the site in the next days.
> 
> thanks for your offer.
> 
> I finally sorted out all issues with the overlap of user accounts and
> mailaddresses from both current sites and added more than nine hundred
> accounts to the new test website.
> 
> The test site is here:
> http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9096/exttemptest/en
> 
> To activate (reset password) it's necessary to use the form at:
> http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9096/exttemptest/mail_password_form?userid=
> and put in the user name and wait for the email with the reset password link

Sorry, I'm late.

I've reset my password for
http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9096/exttemptest/en
but that does not allow me to logg in here: ?
http://vm141.documentfoundation.org:9096/LibOExt-Theming/en

> I'll work on the content data of the current websites and clean up the
> content the next days.

I did some random navigating on the theming/en site and it feels nice.
But I've only seen limited functionallity - can't login and only few
extensions there.
But ;)

Paasword reset seems not to work?
Being able to login there would be nice ..

Thanks,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Development of the new Extensions and Templates Site

2015-10-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 01-10-15 22:29:

> It be great if someone volunteers and create a message that could be
> send to the user (contributers) to motivate them to try the new
> environment and give feedback.

Good idea. Count me in for that please.
I'll do so when I've looked at the site in the next days.

Ciao,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] New Theme for new Extensions-Template-Site: Current Status

2015-08-31 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 07-06-15 21:32:

> This is work in progress and I'm looking for some volunteers to join and
> e.g. create some artwork (e.g. logo etc.).

The extensions website serves a great goal and the existing pages made a
very good start for that time, for which I'm really grateful.

Looking at the fine detailed progress over the past year, I think that
it's easy too for you, to make the next step in this project. Then
seeing final results of your work will go much faster as you can
effectively use your knowledge to make others help, rather then keeping
looking for people to help as was done over the past years. I'm sure you
can make that step too and think that others who much rely on you, will
really appreciate.

Cheers,
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[libreoffice-website] Editing wiki About this page

2015-01-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi,

I'd like to change the About this page-section on the 4.4 release notes
wiki. IMHO it may be much simpler in this stage.

Any pointers pls?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Editing wiki About this page

2015-01-29 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Charles,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 29-01-15 14:12:

 If you mean in an automated way, I knew it a while ago but I forgot :-/

I searched for template..
But now I see at the page information, bottom left in the menu, the link
to the Aboutthispage.
Have added a template AboutthispageFinal and applied that to the release
page.

Note that as argument for the template I added '4.4', whereas the
abuthispage recieved '4.3 release'

 However feel free to copy and paste from the headers of the short
 release notes, I got rid of this About page and replaced the numbering
 accordingly.

Yes, not using that template will work too.


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[libreoffice-website] links to the old bugzilla

2015-01-25 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi,

This page holds some links to the old bugzilla
  https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] New LibreOffice-Extensions-Template - Development Status

2015-01-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote on 29-12-14 18:42:
 I'm using the feedback Cor gave some month ago.

Yes, I remember that, but it was a year ago :)
BY then I was not able to quickly find a clear link between the ideas
and the steps in development. What I missed mainly, was a clear mock up
to discuss. My input was some step in that direction, but not good
enough. Alas due to severe time constraints I have, I stopped looking at
it. And since then my agenda has not improved - surprise :)

It would be great if this extensions site could get a boost. It's
important work that many users visit and there are so much suggestions
to make those visits even more a pleasure. You intended to post a
concept within the next days - a year back..  But of course you're
busy too with normal day life job and tasks. So I would consider to
accept that it's good to consider to get support from people that know
the platform, that take a lot (not all, and of course not all the fun ;)
) from your shoulders ;) IIRC there was some willingness in the board to
make that possible.

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

2015-01-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Leif Lodahl wrote on 06-01-15 10:43:
 I think the issue should be raised to management level or at least be
 prioritized.

It has been 'managed' already. Now only needs to be fixed..

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

2015-01-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Florian,

Florian Effenberger wrote on 30-12-14 09:47:
 can you add details to Redmine ticket #707 and re-open it?

I added 'details'
But can't reopen.

Now displaying https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/
does not work. Well at least not within the last 10 minutes.


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[libreoffice-website] Pootle searching fails - again

2014-12-28 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi,

For the statistics:
Searching for a string in
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/nl/libo42_ui/ fails.
Tried about five times during last four/five hours.


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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

2014-12-28 Thread Cor Nouws

Cor Nouws wrote on 28-12-14 20:40:

 https://translations.documentfoundation.org/nl/libo42_ui/ fails.

Apparently dumb user error since I picked up 4.2 from the browsers
memory.. Apols!
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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle searching fails - again

2014-12-28 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote on 28-12-14 21:48:

 Apparently dumb user error since I picked up 4.2 from the browsers
 memory.. Apols!

Not that working in 4.4. is a pleasure :(


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Additional info for download pages

2014-11-04 Thread Cor Nouws
ping ..

Cor Nouws wrote on 19-10-14 22:03:
 Hi,
 
 Since some time there is this first proposal for improving information
 information on Fresh/Still download pages
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62592
 
 Is someone willing to work on the technical side, so that we can fix
 that together?
 
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[libreoffice-website] Additional info for download pages

2014-10-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi,

Since some time there is this first proposal for improving information
information on Fresh/Still download pages
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62592

Is someone willing to work on the technical side, so that we can fix
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: volunteer work lost?

2014-09-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Jean Spiteri wrote on 26-09-14 13:11:
 Cor, that happened because the German localisation team upgraded to the new
 design template. 

Ah :)

 If you need to use that page, you can try: 
 http://mt.libreoffice.org/features/why-libreoffice/?SubsiteID=3

Nice, thanks!

 However, I would recommend that if that info is not in the new site, a new
 home is found for it because this function should be temporary. 

Yep. It was said to be place fully in the wiki. So that may still happen.

Thanks for your help,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: offer tag for the nice 4 years picture...

2014-09-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Jean Spiteri wrote on 26-09-14 13:13:
 I like this idea a lot. However, I did not understand the question. Do you
 mean we use the wiki as the link or save the image on the wiki?

Link to the main home page and the image on the wiki..

I have placed the image on the wiki
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Card-feliz-aniversario-EN_90-128.jpg



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Re: [libreoffice-website] volunteer work lost?

2014-09-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Dennis Roczek wrote on 26-09-14 16:34:

 BTW:I have marked that link in the wiki as dead link so we don't miss
 the rotten link to update. ...

Thanks - I've just updated it.
Cor

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[libreoffice-website] volunteer work lost?

2014-09-25 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all,

from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Why_Libreoffice we
could click to
http://de.libreoffice.org/features/why-libreoffice/?SubsiteID=3
since that information is not made available in the new site.

But now it's a dead link :(
Anyone an idea what went wrong?

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[libreoffice-website] offer tag for the nice 4 years picture...

2014-09-25 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all,

With the nice picture from Eliane (see TDF plannet, 4.3.2 announcement)
I thought: can we offer some lines that people can include in their site
/ blog to include the pciture with a link?
e.g.

  a href=www.libreoffice.org
  img src=http://libreoffice.org/foo/card-feliz-aniversario-xx.png;
  border=0 hspace=3 vspace=3 alt=LibreOffice 4 years/a

good idea that we use the wiki as location ?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] getting involved in translation on Silverstripe

2014-04-25 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi..

Cor Nouws wrote (21-04-14 20:08)
 Sophie wrote (21-04-14 18:31)
 You ask for an account here or if you already have it, read here :)
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT
 
 Thanks, but this reads  ... and give the e-mail and the login of all
 the members .. and I'm looking for the place to create a new account,
 i.e. login :)


So the problem is still that I cannot find the current versions of:
  https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register
and
  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/web-administrators/
  (linked from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website )


Any ideas?

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[libreoffice-website] getting involved in translation on Silverstripe

2014-04-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi,

Previously it was needed to create an account at
  https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register
and then ask on this list for access to the CMS.

Now that page is not found.

What is the current procedure?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] getting involved in translation on Silverstripe

2014-04-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Sophie,

Sophie wrote (21-04-14 18:31)
 You ask for an account here or if you already have it, read here :)
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT

Thanks, but this reads  ... and give the e-mail and the login of all
the members .. and I'm looking for the place to create a new account,
i.e. login :)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice Extensions-Site: Renovation

2014-02-14 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote (14-02-14 21:17)

 I worked on new content types in the meantime and created a first view
 for the release content type. I added six fields for file uploads. I
 think that would be enough.

Thanks, but I'm afraid I have difficulty to get the link with all
details that we wrote about before in this thread. So if you can try to
explain that (with possibly a next update) : would be appreciated by me :)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice Extensions-Site: Renovation

2014-02-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Andreas Mantke wrote (10-02-14 19:16)

 I looked over your draft and get only a bit of your proposal, maybe
 because a spreadsheet is not the best tool to draw a website structure.

Nah - you must be kidding ;)

 I try to summarize what I got from your draft:
 
 You want a home page (landing page) that has search box, a listing of
 search results, the login, a link to information about installing
 extensions, a link to a bugtracker and a link to an explanation of the
 purpose of extensions (or a box with a teaser and a link to the long
 explanation).
 
 Did I summarize that correct?

Yes, that is OK, plus that I would like to have searches for Most
recent, Most popular, and By category.
And the bugtracker may also info on how/where to report bugs ..

 But then I'm a bit lost. The next fields in your spreadsheet are further
 pages?
 Are they in a hierarchical order?

OK, I clarified the sketch a bit.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:ExtensionsSite_IdeasOnContent_CorNouws_20140210.ods

 Do we want to create projects for the extensions?

For a user that would not be interesting, I guess. Only from a technical
POV that might matter?

 Should there be a release for an extension with information about the
 LibreOffice version that it works with?

Yes, see the page New extension though LibreOffice version is not
mandatory IMO.

 How many different extension files are posible for a release? 
 If there is some compiled stuff inside an extension it could run e.g.
 only on Linux-i586 or -x64.

Ah, interesting. Yes of course it's very good to take that onto
consideration. Would it be needed to add a limit?
Can't it be simple
  [ upload path ][ for version |V] (list)  [ for OS |V] (list)+

where version and OS have 'all' too and that clicking + adds a new line
and that at the end the author clicks [Add]  or  [Submit] ?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice Extensions-Site: Renovation

2014-02-09 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote (09-02-14 20:04)

 But I would like to discuss the structure of the new extensions site and
 the information (fields) - in the edit-form and in the public page of
 each content type on the website-list. My current work is only a first
 draft.

thanks for the invitation and the draft!
Attached for you a sketch from me.
Will post it somewhere on the wiki later today/this evening.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice Extensions-Site: Renovation

2014-02-09 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (10-02-14 08:09)

 Will post it somewhere on the wiki later today/this evening.

Have some wifi on the train, so posted it immediately:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:ExtensionsSite_IdeasOnContent_CorNouws_20140210.ods

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Upgrading the specs

2013-12-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Charles-H. Schulz wrote (09-12-13 16:06)

 https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common/Website/2013_Website_Redesign

Hi,

Just giving one short remark, without being able to look in details (sorry).

Was discussing some days ago with someone that explicitly and solely
stated that he would love to see both donate + what is done with your
donation directly (at download) :)

(AFAIAC no need to comment on the above. Just note it as act as you
think appropriate.)

Success with the design  the great work here :)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Dutch translation of Why page - looks odd

2013-10-08 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Luc,

Luc Castermans wrote (08-10-13 19:22)


I did not see answer to your question. Or did I miss it?


Nope. Busy times ;)
I have another plan. tomorrow maybe .. Sorry for the delay,

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[libreoffice-website] Dutch translation of Why page - looks odd

2013-10-06 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi,

Thanks to Luc, we have a transtalted version of the Why-page.

But it looks odd: wrong header, compare:
  http://www.libreoffice.org/features/why-libreoffice/
and
  http://www.libreoffice.org/features-nl-NL/why-libreoffice-nl-NL/

Related: what do I have to do to get it in the menu of the Dutch site?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] [Extension website] How to remove no release over 1 year warning

2013-03-15 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote (13-03-13 21:17)


please republish the release once you have made changes (e.g. added the
compatibility for LibreOffice 4.0) and the warning should be gone.

If that doesn't help please ping me directly and send me the link to the
release / project.


Noticed the same for CT2N: I added compatibility for LibreOffice 4.0, 
but the warning is still there.
Could it be done so, that setting the compatibility makes that the 
warning is not shown?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] [Extension website] How to remove no release over 1 year warning

2013-03-15 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Mantke wrote (15-03-13 17:44)


that's not posible with the current add-on. But it's very easy - only
one more click - and everything is fine. I used re-release from the
green menu bar (State: ...).


Ah, cool. Something I should be able to do too (and hopefully remember 
as well ;-) )


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Correction name

2013-03-13 Thread Cor Nouws

Christian Lohmaier wrote (13-03-13 21:27)

Changed it on the page, but as it is the result of a export from a
membership database that is maintained by the membership committee,
make sure to also mail the membership alias to have it corrected
there, otherwise it will be the old one again on next update.
(membershiprequ...@documentfoundation.org should do the trick)


We've already taken care for that ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

2013-03-03 Thread Cor Nouws

Camille Moulin wrote (03-03-13 23:28)

Le 03/03/2013 23:02, Robinson Tryon a écrit :

I went ahead and hacked together a version
with the foot in perspective:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Img_slider_2_with-toes.png

Marco -- thoughts?

Well, it still looks strange to me, but may be it's just me...


I do not follow the discussion closely. Sorry. But I guess that is not 
to replace some of the current images?
Apart from the foot: what is displayed at the screen is not at all 
appealing for a normal user.


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[libreoffice-website] homepage - great ! one word too much

2013-02-07 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi!

Looks super!

One line reads  The free office suite the community has been dreaming 
of for twelve years. 


I thought that had been (intended) to changed toThe free office 
suite the community has been dreaming for twelve years.  ?


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[libreoffice-website] new years wishes

2012-12-31 Thread Cor Nouws
Wishing you all the best for 2013: love, joy, happiness, inspiration for 
your work and fun in building and sharing good things in life.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Banner for LibreOffice 4.0 Test Marathon

2012-12-11 Thread Cor Nouws

klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote (11-12-12 22:15)


I put it on the main page and save it (not in the header because we
would loose the donation banner) but I have no rights to publish. So
someone else should do the publishing.


done - thanks for he banner etc :-)


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[libreoffice-website] Banner for LibreOffice 4.0 Test Marathon

2012-12-10 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi *,

There is a nice banner design for the Test Marathon
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Test_Marathon_LibreOffice_4.0

Would it be possible to add that to the header of the website for a 
little week ?


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[libreoffice-website] Silverstripe - broken links

2012-11-03 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi,

In our Dutch section, there are some broken link marks (red accent) in 
the page overview pane.

That is for some time already. But honestly I´ve no idea what it could be.

Any hits?
It's on Home, 3.6 Nieuwe functies ..., 3.5 Functies, 3.4 Functies ...

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[libreoffice-website] download page ... Re: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.5.7

2012-10-18 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi all,

Italo Vignoli wrote (18-10-12 18:18)


LibreOffice 3.5.7 is available for immediate download from the following
link: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/.


I would expect that page to offer 3.6.2 ..?
So there is something wrong with some script?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Which version to get?

2012-09-03 Thread Cor Nouws



On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:



I think this page needs URGENT updating... Not only it says that the
previous (and buggy) version 3.6.0 is Our latest, feature rich version
which obviously is not true, but also that version 3.5.5 is the Previous
version (although there is a link to version 3.5.6 further down...)



Thanks for noticing Pedro. Fixed.

(It would be more time-efficient for you I guess, if you just send a 
reminder that the page is forgotten or so, without the rest of the 
writing ;-) )


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Re: [libreoffice-website] [Q] How can I know which one is a spam?

2012-08-28 Thread Cor Nouws

Christian Lohmaier wrote (28-08-12 22:02)


That above link is meant to be added to the gmail webinterface via
Settings → Gadgets → add gadgets by URL
[...]


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Re: [libreoffice-website] how to get account

2012-08-16 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Christian,

Christian Lohmaier wrote (15-08-12 00:19)


https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register


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[libreoffice-website] how to get account

2012-08-14 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi,

Call me mad, but I can't remember nor find where someone should make an 
account, in order to post the name here, to get access to Silverstripe. 
Pls help me ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Silverstripe/server probs

2012-08-10 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Christian,

Christian Lohmaier wrote (09-08-12 23:58)


On the main site, you did only request publication, but did not
publish it yourself. I did approve the request today, so no
malfunction here, just the wrong button pressed.


Oops, should take more care then :-)
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[libreoffice-website] Silverstripe/server probs

2012-08-09 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi,

Probably noticed by others/already, but for me it's not possible to 
load, thus update pages. I get errors.

Will try later this evening or so...

Also: yesterday I added some text to the special x.y.0 field for the 
main site download page. But I do not see it on the published site.

Might have gone lost in a server problem too?

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Prepare download page for 3.6.0

2012-07-24 Thread Cor Nouws

Italo Vignoli wrote (24-07-12 21:20)

On 7/24/12 8:59 PM, Tom Davies wrote:


I think we should say that no new functionality has been added and
that 3.6.0 is solid as a rock with all features fully tested
out-in-the-wild on millions of real-world machines world-wide.  About
the same as last time.  Ignore the benefits and make up stuff that is
unlikely to be true.


I think that this kind of comment is not bringing any value to the
project, and I kindly ask you to refrain from writing useless stuff. In
a free software project, the value is in doing and not in criticizing.
Please respect this basic rule.


Apart from that, I remember some thread long time ago, before I fell in 
a sort of different-activities-gap, in which I thought to remember that 
with 3.5.0 the download page was a sort of OK and Tom replied that it 
wasn't, and where I was so impolite not to answer... for which my apologies.
Anyway, I had the inspiration to work on it, and thanks to also 
Christian we have a solution now :-)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] possible downtime this weekend

2012-07-07 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Florian,

Florian Effenberger wrote (07-07-12 12:44)


there is a possible downtime of our servers this weekend, since we plan


Thanks for the warning and so.
Any idea when ?
Or would it be possible to warn say an hour in advance too ?


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[libreoffice-website] DownloadSimplePage

2012-07-07 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi,

Some work needs to be done in this one page for the 3.6.0 release.
I cannot do that via SilverStripe, as far as I can see

So where, how can that be done pls?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LO 3.4.6 missing in download script of old style download page

2012-05-28 Thread Cor Nouws

Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote (28-05-12 09:16)


For the French download page [1] I use the old style download script
[2], with both 3.5 and 3.4 versions. Currently this script proposes only
3.5 version instead of both versions.


Hmm, same problem here :-(



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Re: [libreoffice-website] short downtime of silverstripe this night (around 10 minutes at about 00:00 UTC)

2012-05-22 Thread Cor Nouws

Christian Lohmaier wrote (22-05-12 12:45)


I messed up and included changes of the userforms module that require
the not-yet-released Silverstripe 3.0... Fixed. But please
double-check.


Is fine again.
Thanks Christian!


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Re: [libreoffice-website] short downtime of silverstripe this night (around 10 minutes at about 00:00 UTC)

2012-05-21 Thread Cor Nouws

Christian Lohmaier wrote (21-05-12 22:54)


As it is a minor update, I don't expect any trouble, so the site will
be back online in around 10 minutes.


Could it be related that this page

http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/application-for-tdf-community-membership/
does not show up?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] [Q] What is new contributions in License page?

2012-04-30 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Choi!

Jihui Choi wrote (27-04-12 03:21)


on http://www.libreoffice.org/download/license/,
LibreOffice is licensed under the terms of the LGPLv3 (new
contributions are dual-licensed under both LGPLv3+ and MPL).

Is anyone who explains what new contributions indicate exactly?
Is that extension? or everything out of LibO source?


That is for new code committed to LibreOffice, visible here
  http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/log/?qt=grepq=
LGPLv3 is for previously existing code.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] [Q] How can I edit this page?

2012-04-17 Thread Cor Nouws

Jihui Choi wrote (17-04-12 11:33)

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl  wrote:

this one I know: it's in Pootle, section website.


Cor, really glad to see you. :)


Ah same for me Choi - I was not sure, just from the name that you is 
really you :-)
Hope you're doing fine and look forward meeting again (Beijing 2008 is a 
long time ago..)



and Thanks for good answer. So.. I need to ask right for that.


I've updated the translation for Dutch some days ago, but it looks I 
have to poke Andras (added in cc) or so to push to the website ?


By the way, it's not easy. Some people said, the easiest way to
translate website is just copying source and paste it into new page.
However, most of webpages are consisted of lots of thing, for example
css, java script, etc.


Ah yes, but in general, Christian and Erich and Andras and ...others 
too, have excellent answers to help us. So just ask :-)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] simpler download page activated for live test on www.libreoffice.org

2012-04-10 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Christian,

Christian Lohmaier wrote (17-03-12 19:52)


sorry, the multiple lists did make me miss it (mark it read, thus out
of focus - sorry)


[  And me just sitting, staring out of the window, waiting for any mail 
to fill my box ;-) ]


Thanks for your reply!


  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/
Would love to have it linked in the group of Handy resources at the
download page.


Add dl to the meta-keywords of the release-policy page (to only list
it for a certein version, use dlver-version  dlver-3.5 or
dlver-3.5.1)


Works :-)


Also, would like to add optional to the help-download.


That would require chaning the translation (in this matter en_US can
also be treated as translation)


I was able to find the translation for Dutch in Pootle.
(By the way: I guess someone has to update the website with that).

Problem!
When I click on one of the resources, e.d. release notes, I get the 
message: The action 'release_notes' does not exist in class 
DownloadSimplePage_Controller  



Also, I fail to find where to change the original English page in 
Silverstripe and Pootle.

Any hint ?



As a side effect of adding our release policy to the navigation, there is to
much text in horizontal direction.
Hmm, I suggest to have one item features about the 3.5 and there on top
linking to 3.4 and previous (as is done now with 3.3. on the 3.4 page). OK?


Or one could hide the Downloading Instructions from the menu. It is
outdated, and wall-of-text (AKA ugly :-)) anyway. It has a long
navigation title, so that will free much room on the 2nd level
navigation bar.


Done the latter.
Can do the first (publish only one feature-item in the menu) later if 
necessary.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Pre-Releases page

2012-04-09 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Marc, Klaus-Jürgen,

We 'struggle' with this in the Dutch language group too.

Marc Paré wrote (08-04-12 11:54)


We could just delete the following words: LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2
(2012-03-29) Below, you can download a release candidate build of the
upcoming 3.5.2, for evaluation, QA testing, etc. and perhaps replace
with a generic sentence such as: Below you can download the latest
testing builds available on our servers.
Then there would never be a need to manually update the page again.
[...[


That would remove the need to update that header, but there is also the 
link to the release notes. And those are relevant.
Also, seeing a version and a date, may/should help to raise the feeling 
that it is really relevant to test.

So for now, I do not see a possibility to change that.
The situation is that with each new release I already update some pages:
 - main (often)
 - download
 - release notes
 - release notes history (what we have in Dutch)
 - and indeed must not forget pre-releases ..

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Promoting RCs on Facebook

2012-03-19 Thread Cor Nouws

Florian Effenberger wrote (19-03-12 10:18)


webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2012-03-16 20:15:

Do we really want to advertise RCs on Facebook or Twitter?


it's me who regularly posts to the social networks, including Facebook
and Twitter. From time to time (with no pattern) I also announce RCs.
However, I then clearly manage it's a release candidate.

I'm not sure what works best. I guess informing the world about an RC
makes sense, so people see progress being made, and interested QA
supporters can join early. It's just important to clearly announce it's
a RC.


I fully agree.
The initial comment was, that release candidates better are not promoted 
before they are spread around the mirror network.

And the Facebook article did not wait for that.

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Promoting RCs on Facebook

2012-03-16 Thread Cor Nouws

Volker Merschmann wrote (07-03-12 13:59)

In the meantime I have found the names of the maintainers: Gerard
Jensen, Don Crowley, Nikola Yanev
I do not know any of them and they are not linked from the FB-page.

Can anybody help?


Don't know them either. But am willing to post a polite message, if in 
the mean time (we're only 9 days later ;-) ) not someone else took 
action on this.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] A new header image for the template/extension repository

2012-03-14 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Alex,

Alexander Wilms wrote (11-03-12 16:51)


Andreas Mantke mentioned in his FOSDEM slides that he'd like a new logo for
the repositories.

Is this the right place to propose a new design?


Hmm, why not :-)


This is what I came up with:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Logo_Template_Extension_Repository.png
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Logo_Template_Extension_Repository.png
If neccessary, I could also provide the SVG.


For me, looks great. Thanks.
I guess Andreas did not notice this yet, so putting him in cc.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] simpler download page activated for live test on www.libreoffice.org

2012-03-14 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi all,

This mail seems to be unnoticed, In any case unanswered..


Cor Nouws wrote (07-03-12 15:40)

Cor Nouws wrote (20-02-12 10:27)

Christian Lohmaier wrote (19-02-12 21:57)



Another item is the version selection/presenting of the different
versions - the whole thing about .0 releases and conservative users
being better served with the old release/one of the following bugfix
releases.


Picking out just this one:
maybe it's fine if there is a link to the release policy on top (1st
item) of the release notes?
The release notes have a clear link now, and people bearing more
responsibility for IT tasks, for sure will check those.


I've added this page:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/

Would love to have it linked in the group of Handy resources at the
download page.
Can someone pls explain me how I can do that?

Also, would like to add optional to the help-download.

As a side effect of adding our release policy to the navigation, there
is to much text in horizontal direction.
Hmm, I suggest to have one item features about the 3.5 and there on
top linking to 3.4 and previous (as is done now with 3.3. on the 3.4
page). OK?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] simpler download page activated for live test on www.libreoffice.org

2012-03-07 Thread Cor Nouws

Cor Nouws wrote (20-02-12 10:27)

Christian Lohmaier wrote (19-02-12 21:57)



Another item is the version selection/presenting of the different
versions - the whole thing about .0 releases and conservative users
being better served with the old release/one of the following bugfix
releases.


Picking out just this one:
maybe it's fine if there is a link to the release policy on top (1st
item) of the release notes?
The release notes have a clear link now, and people bearing more
responsibility for IT tasks, for sure will check those.


I've added this page:
  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/

Would love to have it linked in the group of Handy resources at the 
download page.

Can someone pls explain me how I can do that?

Also, would like to add optional to the help-download.

As a side effect of adding our release policy to the navigation, there 
is to much text in horizontal direction.
Hmm, I suggest to have one item features about the 3.5 and there on 
top linking to 3.4 and previous (as is done now with 3.3. on the 3.4 
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Re: [libreoffice-website] download instructions

2012-03-07 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi KJ,

klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote (07-03-12 16:35)

Hi all,
after changing the download page [1] we should change the content of the
instruction page [2] too. There is no dropdown list etc.


I saw that page too, and thought it specially referred to the situation 
where people would need the extra / old download page ..


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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] simpler download page activated for live test on www.libreoffice.org

2012-02-20 Thread Cor Nouws

Christian Lohmaier wrote (19-02-12 21:57)


On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl  wrote:



What details are on the list, currently Christian, as far as you are
concerned ?


[...]
Another item is the version selection/presenting of the different
versions - the whole thing about .0 releases and conservative users
being better served with the old release/one of the following bugfix
releases.


Picking out just this one:
maybe it's fine if there is a link to the release policy on top (1st 
item) of the release notes?
The release notes have a clear link now, and people bearing more 
responsibility for IT tasks, for sure will check those.


For the rest: I think the new page serves for the vast majority of the 
visitors, so that is a huge improvement.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] simpler downlod page enabled for evaluation/feedback (was: A simpler download page)

2012-02-19 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi all,

Anders Holbøll wrote (16-02-12 12:26)

On 14-02-2012 15:22, Cor Nouws wrote:



- Also, would be good if it reads:
Not the version you wanted? Change System, version or language


This has been changed in github.


Thanks.


- there is no indication about preferred versions for different
audiences, or a token that indicates such info exists.
Are we convinced that this really is not needed?


There is the Change System, Version or Language. I think that only one
version should be given as default. But if another link should be given,
I don't know, nor what terms they would be looking for. Firefox have a
ESR ( http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ ) but don't
link it from the main download page (
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/fx/ ). Well, actually they do,
below the Aurora/Beta links, not that prominent.


We need to explain clearly to our (potential) users why, when and how 
they, to mention one example, should use a .0 version.
We cannot expect that people coming to our download page, did read blogs 
or pr messages explaining that. So there needs to be a clear pointer to 
information.
Also, forgotten to mention that the first time (sorry) I see no link to 
the release notes.


Best solution to me, seems a line below the download buttons with the links:
  Release Policy   Release Notes


- The words  You need to download and install these files in order:
of course are not always true. The first is a must, the second often
preferred and the third optional.
Maybe: Download and install these files in order (2nd and 3rd are
optional)


The buttons are labeled with a short description (Translated user
interface and LibreOffice built-in help) which was intended as a way
of indicating to the user what they where getting (not much sense in
saying something is optional, if you don't tell them what it is god for)
and thus that it as optional. But it could of course say (Optional)
explicitly on the button, or perhaps just say (Required) on the main
download.


Yes something in that direction would help.
  | | LibreOffice built-in Help
  10 MB (Torrent, info)   (optional)


Thanks for already explained  cleared points.

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] simpler download page activated for live test on www.libreoffice.org

2012-02-19 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi,

Christian Lohmaier wrote (19-02-12 16:33)


despite some details not being perfect,


What details are on the list, currently Christian, as far as you are 
concerned ?



the simplified download page is now activated on www.libreoffice.org


Thanks all!




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Re: [libreoffice-website] simpler downlod page enabled for evaluation/feedback (was: A simpler download page)

2012-02-16 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Anders,

fast reply on this (while having wifi)

Anders Holbøll wrote (16-02-12 12:26)

On 14-02-2012 15:22, Cor Nouws wrote:



Looks OK in FF on Ubuntu.
Also OK in FF on Win 7 (VirtualBox)
In the IE version in Win7 (9.0.4), it immediately shows the page
following 'Change system or language'

This seems odd. I had hoped we would get the updated version with a bit
more diagnostics information in the source to help tell why before
responding. But could you post the user-agent and accept-language (e.g.
from http://www.myhttp.info/ ) to help debug this?


started ViruatBox  Win7  IE.
This time it shows fine.
Tried twice ... still OK

Thanks :-) will reply more later!

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Re: [libreoffice-website] simpler downlod page enabled for evaluation/feedback (was: A simpler download page)

2012-02-14 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi,

Christian Lohmaier wrote (14-02-12 12:48)


thanks to Anders' work, the simplified/buttonized download page is
available online for testing at https://www.libreoffice.org/download35


Looks fast  clean.
Which of course is partly due to the fact that maybe some details needs 
to be filled.



Please give it a shot with various browsers.


Looks OK in FF on Ubuntu.
Also OK in FF on Win 7 (VirtualBox)
In the IE version in Win7 (9.0.4), it immediately shows the page 
following 'Change system or language'



It is not shown in menus, and not in google sitemap, but it is public
for testing. Please use accordingly.

There are a few quirks and usability issues after having a look at the
site live (at least in my opinion - selection of language doesn't work
well, and when manually choosing it isn't  obvious that it is a
multi-step process and things like that)


- Also, would be good if it reads:
  Not the version you wanted? Change System, version or language

- there is no indication about preferred versions for different 
audiences, or a token that indicates such info exists.

Are we convinced that this really is not needed?

- The words  You need to download and install these files in order:
of course are not always true. The first is a must, the second often 
preferred and the third optional.
Maybe:  Download and install these files in order (2nd and 3rd are 
optional)


- Could the text base installer be confusing, for people knowing that 
base as component? Maybe Main installer ?


- The note at the bottom of the current page,  Other way to download 
LibreOffice, the productivity suite   does that make sense, or is it 
redundant?




And a few theming issues (when there are no related pages, the void
space should be filled with something else, now the english page looks
like something is missing (as the related pages haven't been tagged
like described below)

So while not perfect, it is a big step towards a revised download  page.


Yep. Thanks to Andras!


I think at first we should make it en-US only and only use it at the
frontpage, as translations are missing anyway.


Well, translating is easy enough. But with making this the landing page, 
then we should rethink our strategy about current content on the home 
page. Correct?



(i.e. always start of with presenting the download buttons, and if
in doubt the windows download if OS or language cannot be guessed)


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[libreoffice-website] Re: changes in profile path in release notes for 3.5

2012-02-14 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi all,

Below, just a heads up for those translating release notes/features etc.

Cheers,
Cor

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: changes in profile path in release notes for 3.5
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:39:36 +0100
From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl
CC: libreoffice-dev libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org, 
Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@orange.fr


Cor Nouws wrote (12-02-12 17:05)

Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote (11-02-12 09:04)



On Linux (or Linux Gnome only ???) the profile directory for LO 3.5.0
has been move to ~/.config/libreoffice. This information should be
clearly stated in the release notes for 3.5.
Could somebody who knows exactly what has been modified, update the
release notes?


I agree and will try to find a useful place for it.


added to features page. Search for  user profile path

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Improving download page

2012-02-13 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi all,

Looks as if in the thread 'A simpler download page' work on that is 
reflected.


-  For the 3.5.0 , some simple words have been added to our current page:
 - Our latest, feature rich version
 - Previous version.

-  Do we want to show a little text which version to choose ?

Should be about the same as in the PR:
 We invite power users to install LibreOffice 3.5, and more 
conservative users to stick with LibreOffice 3.4 branch. Corporate users 
are always advised to deploy LibreOffice with the backing of 
professional support, from a company able to assist with migration, end 
user training, support and maintenance. 


Can we have a pop-up/hoover for that?

- Then the 3.3- versions. What is the url (if any) of the archives, that 
we can put in the list at the bottom of the page?


thanks,
Cor

Cor Nouws wrote (11-02-12 22:43)

Italo Vignoli wrote (11-02-12 11:44)



Well, somewhere people must be able to find the archives. Could be
simply added at the list at the bottom.

Thanks!




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Re: URGENT Re: [libreoffice-website] Improving download page

2012-02-12 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi all,

This thread is because:
- the download page is nominated for improvement some time already;
- the mockups and wording at the wiki (from June/July last year) 
represent the idea to hide the new version (currently 3.5.0) and use the 
old as 'stable'
- we want to be 3.5.0 to be strongly promoted. If not as default, then 
in any case very visible and attractive.


See the introduction at the top op my initial mail:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/msg07141.html

The rough mockups that I made, were just to show three possible 
situations. Situations that we have seen, and have been discussing.

 1- the release must be promoted but with care ;
 2- the release is considered good enough for non-expert installation 
and use

 3- the release is simply default
See the explanation at the right side of the mockups.

The colors I used are bad. The visual representation wrecked, the 
wording open for improvement :-)


If Devs/QA decide that 3.5.0 is simply default, OK, then we simply have 
'design' 3.

And if in the future, we never need 'design' 1 and 2: so much the better :-)

There are of course many similarities with Christophs far better looking 
mockups. But the discussion is in the differences.


Cheers,
Cor

Italo Vignoli wrote (12-02-12 00:34)

Apologies, I did not realize what was happening on the download page.
Sorry for jumping in so late.

On 2/11/12 11:54 PM, Christoph Noack wrote:


Looking at the new proposals at [1], the major difference (I seem to be
able to spot) is the decision to present LibO 3.5.0 Early Adopters as
the default download page.


Please take away the Early Adopters from the button. The button should
read Download LibreOffice 3.5. Nothing less, nothing more.

The other button should read: Download LibreOffice Previous Version,
but the button should be smaller (but I am more flexible on the second one).

At the moment, the two buttons are not in line with the announcement of
LibreOffice 3.5, which is taglined the best free office suite ever,
and might create some confusion.

LibreOffice 3.4 was in a completely different situation, and we had to
face it telling users that it was not ready for corporate adoption.

LibreOffice 3.5 is more mature and more stable. The press release is
explaining to end users what they should do.

Thanks, Italo




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Improving download page

2012-02-12 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Christoph,

Christoph Noack wrote (11-02-12 23:54)


Mmh, maybe I'm blind, but wasn't the idea of having a default version,
and thus a download page for one version only, the solution for to
provide one button to the version we want to download?


Yes, but we may also face a situation where the 3.5.0 is not considered 
well enough for default download, and we still want to promote it.

See the discussion...


Looking at the new proposals at [1], the major difference (I seem to be
able to spot) is the decision to present LibO 3.5.0 Early Adopters as
the default download page.


also the chosen wording and clear buttons 'previous version' / 'which to 
choose' are different. But we may consider this as details.
Plus that my ideas try to cater for the situation as described in the 
paragraph above.



[..]
To me, our thoughts seem very similar - which I consider helpful :-)


:-)


Interesting by the way, that where I was a bit in the middle between the
initial mockups on the wiki and what also Drew writes  (offer 3.4.5 as
default) and the idea from developers (get 3.5.0 out as much as fast as
possible - if I got that right), you and also Anders go indeed are fully
at that side.


To me, it is not that much mockups related, but the basic question how
many versions will be offered at the same time, and who decides what
version is the default.


Yes, that is what I tried to explain in my initial mail.
See the few more words in the mail I've just send out.

Cheers  have a nice Sunday :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Improving download page

2012-02-12 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Drew,

drew wrote (12-02-12 00:17)

Well I wrote the email first thing this morning and I am still, in
general, behind the concept, however, after reading everything on list
today and spending most of the day running 3.4.5 and 3.5.0 _and_ then


Indeed a good thing to do.


reading your post, specifically, referencing the chatter from some
developers to start thinking of the 3.5 branch as the first LTR (for a
working term) candidate...

I would change my, or have changed my mind, regarding this moment in
time. I think given everything that 3.5.0 should be the default, over
3.4.x.


I appreciate that you are with (most of) us then here.
I'm sure that people from the development team also could add facts 
about bugs that have been fixed in the 3.5 branch and (for various 
reasons) still exist in the 3.4 branch.

So that also adds to the impression that with 3.5 things are OK.


But I would really like to see us have a more detailed discussion,
before we get to 3.6 in order to flesh out the ideas in general about,
how we designate 'the default' going forward.


W've spend quite some time in discussing the QA/release cycle from 
somewhere May last year onwards. And because of that changed some things 
in the flow.
But indeed I think it's definitely useful to have a fresh look again 
once all the dust for the 3.5 release is settled. Will be on Dev   QA 
list obviously. (There are also some items from the previous discussion 
that we parked to have a look later.)
And indeed interesting for the next major release, is how QA will catch 
up even more, so that possibly release discussions will be even more on 
facts, this a bit less on 'impressions'.


Thanks a lot,
Cor

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[libreoffice-website] Improving download page

2012-02-11 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi all,

Recently we discussed the need to improve the download page (on the 
marketing list).
Christoph was so kind to help us to find again the existing wiki page on 
the subject with the mockups, Download page whiteboard page:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Download_Page

Without doubt, this is the best we have at this stage. However, with 
discussions from the last months in mind, I've been thinking and looking 
a while about some possible improvements: How to offer our latest 
greatest as much as possible, though in a responsible way, and soon?



The idea:

So:
 a. how to show the default / other download
 b. when do we switch the development lines 'default'  'other'

AD a
  - The intention is to get people download the latest as soon as 
reasonable safe.
  - Condition: the version can be installed by all, without trouble, 
and no problems in basic use
  - How: Start with labelling 3.5.x asap as default, possibly already 
the 3.5.0, + a clear link nearby, explaining the availability of the 
'more conservative release'.
  - Rationale: that should be enough for people with some understanding 
about software. And the people that do not understand it, probably make 
use of so little features, that there is no problem for them that the 
3.5.0/1 has some more glitches :-)


AD b
  - Basically is answered with a.: the version can be installed by all, 
without trouble and we show a clear link leading to information.



Result:
---
I think we must distinct between three situations/phases
 1. 3.5.x must be promoted but with care
(might be 3.5.0, maybe 3.5.1 or might even be skipped)

 2. 3.5.x considered good enough
for non-expert installation and use
(might be 3.5.0, maybe 3.5.1)

 3. 3.5.x is simply default
(for probably 3.5.1 or 3.5.2 and up)


I've done three simple, rough mockups and added them to the wiki
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Download_Page#Mockups_2012

Compared to the previous mockups (1), I suggest to skip the explaining 
texts. Those are always debatable, and we link to a page (popup?) with 
some more words for understandable explanation.


The ideas for download buttons, offering help packs  (windows/Linux) and 
Language packs/OS (Linux) as suggested in the previous mockups are OK, 
must haves.


Also links for/to 'we've guessed wrong', 'handy resources' should be 
there too.



Can this be done?
-
So ... I hope this is technically possible.
Of course this makes it necessary that we discuss about the status of 
(earlier) releases in order to get the download page in proper shape. 
But we have those discussions anyway ;-)



Cheers,
Cor

1) Linked from the wiki
 - windows default example:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/7/7c/2011-07-01_DownloadPage_Default_Windows_Collapsed.png
 - Linux download page example
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:2011-07-01_DownloadPage_Features_Linux_Expanded.png

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Improving download page

2012-02-11 Thread Cor Nouws

Cor Nouws wrote (11-02-12 10:44)


Can this be done?


For in case the new download page may not be there before the 3.5.0 is 
out (few days..), I've added a few words about latest/previous version 
to the download page.


When the 3.5.0 is there, I suggest:
at the top (3.5.0)
  This is the Our latest, feature rich version,
   has a bit more glitches
below (3.4.5)
  for conservative use, without the latest features
(and maybe add a link to archives for 3.3.4?)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] 3.5 features page ...

2012-02-11 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Marc, Andras,

Andras Timar wrote (11-02-12 08:56)

2012/2/11 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com:



I'm done. Could you take a look at it? Leave me a list of changes or
additions or comments etc. You need to log in edit mode.


Thanks. Had a quick look, and (apart from the suggestion from Andras) 
looks clear. I can contribute with some more words about some features 
and some screen shots.
( Need to step out now for some family duties and other family life. 
Will prolly be back on the list this evening (CET) and pick this up then. )



I think in Featured Selection we should show screenshots, not only
text.


Fully agree - no reason not to add them, IMO.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Improving download page

2012-02-11 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Drew, all,

drew wrote (11-02-12 14:39)


- Basically is answered with a.: the version can be installed by all,
without trouble and we show a clear link leading to information.


I would strongly argue in the reverse.


Ah, sad. I had hoped (dreamed prolly) that with my idea we had found the 
sheep with 5 legs (and then the international equivalent of that ;-) )


But of course we must be able to find a working solution for another 
direction/choice too.

Let me first put your arguments to the test ;-)


They likely use less of the application and therefore:
- are least likely to benefit from the new features
- least likely to appreciate the value of new features they find


Well, that of course depends the features we are talking about.
I think improved import for PPTX and Visio are attractive enough.


- least able to deal with any stability issues found


Yes. Those should be really exceptional. And are so in my experience 
(which is invalid, since I work with Linux ...)



-- unable to quickly recognize workarounds on their own
-- least capable of giving quality feedback in the form of entering
issues into the bug tracking system
-- most likely to abandon the application out of frustation


If they got stuck: probably.


[...]
In other words I feel that it is the casual user that should be directed
to the trailing release 3.4.5 at this time, and the exception (for lack
of a better term) treatment to direct our experienced users to the
latest feature release 3.5.0.


Well, you may have understand from my initial post, that me/we are 
wrestling with the question how to get enough people work fast enough 
with 3.5.0



IMO this offers the best experience for both the end users and the
efforts of the foundation as it avoids frustrating those least able to
deal with the leading edge, and maximizes the likelihood of getting
timely, useful and quality feedback into the QA/developer loop.


Would like to read what others choose ?
(I can think about different mockups in the mean time, for just in case 
that ;-) )


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Improving download page

2012-02-11 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Anders,

Anders Holbøll wrote (11-02-12 21:24)


I believe that 3.5.0 should be advertised as the default recommended
version. If it isn't ready for that, I would assume that the developers
had put out another release candidate!


I guess the developers think it's ready for the release.
Compared with the unhandy situation around the 3.4.0 and because of 
changes in the process, more QA, and since the project/developed evolved 
quite a bit, we may expect that.

Still, that's my impression and I'm not a really involved developer.


I think we can assume that the project will get quite some press
coverage for the 3.5 release (at least more than for the 3.5.1 release).
So it makes no sense to spoil that, by saying to people that it isn't
quite ready after all, when they come to download the software.


Agree.


That will just cause confusion and insecurity.

I would think that the newest major release is for end-users and the
previous major is for enterprises (and if they want the previous
release, they will know, know why and know to look for it). But I have
been confused by LibreOffice's messaging on this, even though I am a
developer (not a LO-dev, just a end-user).


As you may notice, we look for ways how to bring this message to our 
download pages. Which already tend to be cluttered because of 
unavoidable extra download links / choices.


Thanks for your input on this. And the technical stuff in the other mail 
too! (which I hope others will pick up.)


In cane you have the 'one cures all' solution for our download page, 
feel welcome to share :-)


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