Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Disclaimer
Hello Daniel, Please correct the listing of the mailing lists by replacing them with the TDF/LibreOffice mailing lists in Spanish. Thank you, -- Charles-H. Schulz Membre du Comité exécutif The Document Foundation. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Disclaimer
On 03/11/2011 01:51 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Please correct the listing of the mailing lists by replacing them with the TDF/LibreOffice mailing lists in Spanish. With pleasure -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Disclaimer
I have edited es.libreoffice several times translating content from main site and I'd like to know which are steps to follow from now on. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Escuelas Libres :: Porque la educación es mucho mejor cuando es libre http://www.escuelaslibres.org.ar/ --- Para entrenar, cualquier programa sirve. Para educar, sólo Software Libre. (Federico Heinz) --- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Disclaimer
On 3/9/11 3:51 PM, Jesús Corrius wrote: If there are no objections in 24 hours, I'll edit the pages to point to the official lists. 24 hours have officially gone by now. Jesus, please change the page ASAP. I will draft a media advisory ASAP. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com Mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP: +39.02.320621813 Skype: italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Disclaimer
Hello everyone, Sorry for jumping so late... Le Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:04:35 +0100, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com a écrit : On 3/9/11 3:51 PM, Jesús Corrius wrote: If there are no objections in 24 hours, I'll edit the pages to point to the official lists. 24 hours have officially gone by now. Jesus, please change the page ASAP. I will draft a media advisory ASAP. I read that Daniel was told by someone from OOoES that they had discussed the mailing lists problem with TDF. While it is accurate we never reached an agreement and it's clear to me we requested them to use our mailing lists. The point is not to prohibit people to use their own tools. It is to avoid confusion (OOoES is not TDF and I don't see why OOoES should dictate anything to the rest of the Spanish speaking contributors) and also that TDF feels there's a problem with respect to how OOOES is handling its positioning (no, no conflict of interest, but a lack of transparency in how it deals with its contributions to several projects). So while people are free to contribute through various teams, it is also the right of TDF to choose how and with whom it wants to work. Sorry Daniel for this inconvenience, -- Charles-H. Schulz Membre du Comité exécutif The Document Foundation. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Disclaimer
On 3/9/11 4:35 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: The point is not to prohibit people to use their own tools. It is to avoid confusion (OOoES is not TDF and I don't see why OOoES should dictate anything to the rest of the Spanish speaking contributors) and also that TDF feels there's a problem with respect to how OOOES is handling its positioning (no, no conflict of interest, but a lack of transparency in how it deals with its contributions to several projects). So while people are free to contribute through various teams, it is also the right of TDF to choose how and with whom it wants to work. Charles, we have to act once and for all. Alexandro wants to maintain the power he has been given by the OOo community, and does not want us to develop an independent Spanish community. The reality is that OOoES represents only Alexandro and his friends, and I do not think that we will loose anything by alienating them, while - on the contrary - I think that we are losing a huge opportunity with the Spanish community if we don't act immediately and ban Alexandro from our servers. He will never behave in the proper way. We all know him, and the damages he has done to the OOo Spanish community (which has never been a real community). If we continue to keep the door open we will never get a transparent situation, and the outside world will continue to think that we are behind Alexandro. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com Mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP: +39.02.320621813 Skype: italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Disclaimer
Le Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:47:50 +0100, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com a écrit : On 3/9/11 4:35 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: The point is not to prohibit people to use their own tools. It is to avoid confusion (OOoES is not TDF and I don't see why OOoES should dictate anything to the rest of the Spanish speaking contributors) and also that TDF feels there's a problem with respect to how OOOES is handling its positioning (no, no conflict of interest, but a lack of transparency in how it deals with its contributions to several projects). So while people are free to contribute through various teams, it is also the right of TDF to choose how and with whom it wants to work. Charles, we have to act once and for all. Alexandro wants to maintain the power he has been given by the OOo community, and does not want us to develop an independent Spanish community. The reality is that OOoES represents only Alexandro and his friends, and I do not think that we will loose anything by alienating them, while - on the contrary - I think that we are losing a huge opportunity with the Spanish community if we don't act immediately and ban Alexandro from our servers. He will never behave in the proper way. We all know him, and the damages he has done to the OOo Spanish community (which has never been a real community). If we continue to keep the door open we will never get a transparent situation, and the outside world will continue to think that we are behind Alexandro. Italo, that's exactly what I'm saying :-) Although banning Alexandro is, well, perhaps something we can study later on. Best, Charles. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Disclaimer
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello, Daniel Gonzalez wrote on 2011-03-09 02.52: Took several days working and working hard on marketing lists, users, support, and others in Spanish. Recently I talked with some people who told me that everything related to LibreOffice in Spanish is being led by http://oooes.org/, the idea seems good but not when I think people there are as much help Partial use OOo well, OOoES and TDF are two independent entities. The one does *not* speak on behalf of the other. LibreOffice perhaps should not have mailing lists that came driving and on which we were making our contributions. Far apart for a few hours ago we only have a single point to lists http://oooes.org/ and they appear to be handled with great discretion. There are official mailing lists for Spain: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#Spanis It's indeed interesting that they are not referenced on http://es.libreoffice.org/asistencia/listas-de-correo/ ... Yes, I think the pages should point to the official lists inside the project. Or at least don't hide that they exist! If there are no objections in 24 hours, I'll edit the pages to point to the official lists. -- Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org Document Foundation founding member Mobile: +34 661 11 38 26 Skype: jcorrius | Twitter: @jcorrius -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
