Re: [Webware-discuss] webkit and PIDs

2006-06-14 Thread Christoph Zwerschke
Oliver Bock wrote:
 Unfortunately OS X does not include /proc and therefore FreeBSD probably 
 doesn't either.  My impression is that /proc is a relatively recent 
 innovation.

I did not know this about OS X. Actually, the procfs is not something 
new. FreeBSD has it, too (maybe a bit different there).

Anyway, we probably have to resort to locking at least for the generic 
start script (Webware comes with a bunch of different start scripts in 
the folder WebKit/Startscripts). But locking is also different on 
various platforms. We have to be careful to do it right.

I found an article which may be helpful:
http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=1344/ur0402g/

I will try to come up with a solution based on that.

-- Christoph


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Re: [Webware-discuss] webkit and PIDs

2006-06-14 Thread Tim Roberts
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:48:25 +1000, Oliver Bock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Unfortunately OS X does not include /proc and therefore FreeBSD probably 
doesn't either.  My impression is that /proc is a relatively recent 
innovation.


Hardly!  It's as old as the X window system.  /proc first appeared in
SVR4 in 1984.  Solaris had it in version 2.5.  OpenBSD has it.  I'd be
shocked if FreeBSD didn't, and I'm very surprised that OS/X doesn't.

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Tim Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Providenza  Boekelheide, Inc.



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Re: [Webware-discuss] webkit and PIDs

2006-06-14 Thread Leith Parkin
FreeBSD only provides part of /proc when linux compat is enabled.

On 6/15/06, Oliver Bock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tim Roberts wrote:
  On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:48:25 +1000, Oliver Bock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hardly!  It's as old as the X window system.  /proc first appeared in
  SVR4 in 1984.  Solaris had it in version 2.5.  OpenBSD has it.  I'd be
  shocked if FreeBSD didn't, and I'm very surprised that OS/X doesn't.
 

 Plenty of weird stuff came out with SVR4.  Sensible people (and their
 operating systems) shunned these innovations for the architectural
 purity of the original BSD mechanisms.  Sadly Linux has ushered in the
 age of *nix populism, and now everybody wants everything.


   Oliver


 P.S. http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/apme/procfs/ explains a bit about
 why OS X doesn't have it.


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