Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-16 Thread juanrgonzaleza

Anne van Kesteren wrote:

 Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Since MathML does not fit into the WHATWG philosophy, I would
 aknowledge information about your own solution to the problem of
 mathematical markup on the web.

 Oh please, cut the crap. Did you miss the message from Ian saying how
 it could integrate?


If by integrate you mean integrate, then yes I did miss it. Please could
you cite it for I can learn from.

If by integrate you mean another... well I have heard contradictory
things from Ian, therefore, I am not sure, really.

Juan R.

Center for CANONICAL |SCIENCE)





Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-16 Thread White Lynx
  Since MathML does not fit into the WHATWG philosophy, I would
  aknowledge information about your own solution to the problem of
  mathematical markup on the web.
 
  Oh please, cut the crap. Did you miss the message from Ian saying how
  it could integrate?
 
  If by integrate you mean integrate, then yes I did miss it. Please could
  you cite it for I can learn from.
 
 http://listserver.dreamhost.com/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2006-June/006518.html
  
 has most of the details. It's dicussed in related messages from him as well. 
 Not too hard to find if you look in the  
 archives...
 
 (I was referring to your usage of fit when saying integrate...)
 

So how does it fit in the scope of fundamental principles upon which 
the WHAT working group intends to operate?
http://www.w3.org/2004/04/webapps-cdf-ws/papers/opera.html

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Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-16 Thread James Graham

White Lynx wrote:


So how does it fit in the scope of fundamental principles upon which 
the WHAT working group intends to operate?

http://www.w3.org/2004/04/webapps-cdf-ws/papers/opera.html



I don't see anything contradictory there (and in any case I'm not sure the 
document you point to is considered normative e.g. it mentions a byline 
element which does not appear in current drafts of the HTML5 spec).


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Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-16 Thread Michel Fortin

Le 16 juin 2006 à 9:27, White Lynx a écrit :

Yes, sub/sup will behave like HTML sub/sup with offsets being based  
on font size like it is currently done in HTML implementations,  
while llim/ulim and marker/submark will have offsets based on size  
of their base (operator, fence, matrix etc.) not font size like in  
case of HTML sub/sup elements.


Am I right to say than an exponent made with sup following a fence  
of a undefined height cannot be aligned correctly vertically? Could  
the same thing be said when sup is preceded by a matrix?



Michel Fortin
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Re: [whatwg] On accessibility

2006-06-16 Thread Michel Fortin

Le 14 juin 2006 à 21:09, Lachlan Hunt a écrit :

If implementations can be modified so that accesskeys do not  
interfere with existing shortcut keys, then that's great.   Perhaps  
they could offer a kind of web-apps mode where all Alt+[key]  
combinations are safe to be used by the web page, and then another  
mode where they retain their normal browser functions.  But until  
something like that happens and proves successful, accesskeys  
should not be retained.


I'd like to point out that accesskeys are working very well on the  
Mac. Application commands are issued using the Command key and most  
browsers bind accesskeys to the minimally-used Control key.  
Accesskeys do not conflict with other system and application  
shortcuts unless the user defines his own conflicting shortcuts in  
the system preferences.


It would be sad to see accesskeys disappear just because they are  
hard to implement elsewhere. But I acknowledge most other computers  
don't have a spare key which can be used for that.



Michel Fortin
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