Re: [whatwg] [HTML5] Accessibility question - SSML

2008-03-19 Thread Nicholas Shanks
Well I already do include embedded SSML on my website. I also  
submitted some XSLT to transform XHTML into a full SSML document which  
can be piped to speech synthesisers like Swift, that understand the  
format.


http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10363

On 18 Mar 2008, at 10:23 pm, Keryx Web wrote:

Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis skrev:
I think it's a mistake to assume a accessible or screen-reader- 
friendly view should be non-interactive.
In so far as this is true at all, it's largely a result of web  
interactivity depending on non-standard widgets. AFAICT, this is  
one of the problems HTML5 tries to solve.


Hear, hear!

We also need to work with screen readers and browser developers so  
that that CSS media rules actually start to be applied. And Webkit  
should join the ARIA party!


A thought (an just a thought), however, that might be worth  
investigating is if SSML could be embedded into HTML, using similar  
principles as is being considered for SVG.



Lars Gunther


— Nicholas Shanks.



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Re: [whatwg] A comment to character encoding declaration

2008-03-19 Thread Henri Sivonen

On Mar 7, 2008, at 10:12, Jjgod Jiang wrote:

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Alexey Proskuryakov wrote:
 In my testing, it appears that IE 7 and Firefox 2 do treat GBK as  
an equivalent of GB2312, but this cannot be said about GB18030. In  
particular, 0x80 and 0xA2E3 are treated differently.


Yep, I missed that point in my previous post, my fault. Yes, they
should be treated differently. So I guess my request should be changed
to only treat GB2312 as GBK.


According to source code[1], WebKit trunk also changes GB_2312-80 to  
GBK. Gecko aliases gb_2312-80 to GB2312 (due to FrontPage output  
according to source comment).


Also, WebKit changes KS_C_5601-1987 and EUC-KR to windows-949-2000.  
Gecko aliases[2] KS_C_5601-1987 to x-windows-949 (due to FrontPage  
output according to source comment). However, Gecko doesn't use its  
alias mechanism to alias EUC-KR to windows-949. I haven't tested if  
EUC-KR is treated equivalently to windows-949 by other means.


Yet another weird alias tidbit supported both by Gecko and WebKit  
source as well as Googling the subject:
Looks like x-x-big5 needs to be an alias for Big5 due to FrontPage  
output.


[1] 
http://trac.webkit.org/projects/webkit/browser/trunk/WebCore/platform/text/TextCodecICU.cpp#L90
[2] 
http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/intl/uconv/src/charsetalias.properties#335
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Re: [whatwg] Legal colspan values

2008-03-19 Thread Michael Enright
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Christoph Päper
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  +  h4Attributes common to codetd/code and codeth/code
   elements/h4
  
   +  pThe codetd/code and codeth/code elements may have a dfn
   +  title=attr-tdth-colspancodecolspan/code/dfn content
   +  attribute specified, whose value must be a spanvalid non-negative
   +  integer/span greater than zero.

  Isn't that the description of a valid positive integer? If that term
  is not used or defined yet, why not?


The mathematical definitions of positive and negative integers exclude
zero, but the less-expert reader might not realize that zero is not
valid for colspan unless it is made explicit. integer greater than
zero would be one way to say it. Otherwise positive non-zero
integer?

March 14th was Talk like a physicist day. Is there a connection? I doubt it.


[whatwg] Typo in section 4.6.2 Application Caches

2008-03-19 Thread Anders Carlsson

The text:

A browsing context can be associated with an application cache. A  
child browsing context is always associated with the same browsing  
context as its parent browsing context, if any.


should be:

A browsing context can be associated with an application cache. A  
child browsing context is always associated with the same *application  
cache* as its parent browsing context, if any.


Anders