Re: [whatwg] 'input' event interpretation
Are you talking about section 4.2. The change and input events ? It still concentrates mostly on entering text with keyboard. But what another forms of input i've mentioned? They are still popular among UAs but are not mentioned here. However I think, as I've mentioned, they change the value of an input field due to input from the user (mouse click). 2008/11/7 Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2 May 2008, Rimvydas wrote: The question is related to the 'input' event on Web Forms 2.0. The WF2 specification says: This [input] event must be fired on a control whenever the value of the control changes due to input from the user, and is otherwise identical to the change event. However, there are a few problems with current interpretation of this sentence. The first one - what is considered an input from the user? I just check on opera and firefox3 - they fire the event when I enter something, but if i select an entry from autocomplete list or browser fills some forms for me - it is not fired. When I select a value from a list I usually want the value in the field to change - it is like typing, just faster. I have filed a bug for ff. Maybe a specification could be more precise on what is an input from the user... I've tried to be clearer. Let me know if this is still ambiguous. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' -- Rimvydas Naktinis
[whatwg] 'input' event interpretation
The question is related to the 'input' event on Web Forms 2.0. The WF2 specification says: This [input] event must be fired on a control whenever the value of the control changes due to input from the user, and is otherwise identical to the change event. However, there are a few problems with current interpretation of this sentence. The first one - what is considered an input from the user? I just check on opera and firefox3 - they fire the event when I enter something, but if i select an entry from autocomplete list or browser fills some forms for me - it is not fired. When I select a value from a list I usually want the value in the field to change - it is like typing, just faster. I have filed a bug for ff. Maybe a specification could be more precise on what is an input from the user... Other problem is automatic form filling. Browser remembers some values (most frequently it is a login form) and when the page is loaded it enters them. Forms are also filled when in a login form user selects a name from an autocomplete list (the password is filled). In opera it is filled using 'wand'. The problem is - the values of fields change silently, without informing the page (i.e. without firing an event). Does specification say anything about this situation? If it does not, maybe it should? But in this case it would not be an input from the user so it should be a different event probably. Motivation. This would be convenient for various incremental search UIs and other cases when page should know about the change immediately. -- Rimvydas Naktinis
