Re: [whatwg] Removing @rev

2008-05-15 Thread Nicholas Shanks

On 14 May 2008, at 12:11 AM, Ian Hickson wrote:


On Tue, 13 May 2008, Křištof Želechovski wrote:


Removing @rev is harmful for Lynx because that is how it decides  
who the

author is.


Removing rev= from the spec doesn't preclude Lynx still supporting  
it
for legacy documents, and for new documents, rel=author is preferred  
and

is trivially supportable given support for rev=made, so I don't think
this is a particularly convincing argument.


For what it's worth, I always press 'c' before going hunting for a  
contact address. It usually doesn't work, but that's life I guess.


Ian: would it be too much to have the spec say that @rev is valid if  
and only if its value is made or owner?
That way I can continue supporting older versions of lynx until people  
have updated to a version supporting rel=author


I generally prefer lynx over links, w3m and such when I'm ssh'd into  
another machine, so I don't know much about them, but if they also  
support @rev then that would be more reason to keep it in with these  
fixed values.


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Re: [whatwg] Removing @rev

2008-05-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 15 May 2008, Nicholas Shanks wrote:
 
 For what it's worth, I always press 'c' before going hunting for a 
 contact address. It usually doesn't work, but that's life I guess.
 
 Ian: would it be too much to have the spec say that @rev is valid if and 
 only if its value is made or owner? That way I can continue 
 supporting older versions of lynx until people have updated to a version 
 supporting rel=author

Well HTML5 is far from being ready, I recommend using HTML4 for now and 
getting Lynx to support rel=author in advance of HTML5 coming out.

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Re: [whatwg] Removing @rev

2008-05-15 Thread Ian Hickson
On Thu, 15 May 2008, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:

 I thought the rev attribute was being added back?  (Someone... I can't 
 remember who... came on the Microformats mailing list, a while ago, and 
 said something to that effect.)

I have no plans to, evidence showed it was causing authors all kinds of 
problems, and had no practical benefits.

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Re: [whatwg] Removing @rev

2008-05-15 Thread Křištof Želechovski
Getting suport from Lynx is the easy part; the hard part is to get the
supporting Lynx to all those BBS out there.  This is very much different
from the personal browser the user can control.

Chris

 

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On Thu, 15 May 2008, Nicholas Shanks wrote:
 
 For what it's worth, I always press 'c' before going hunting for a 
 contact address. It usually doesn't work, but that's life I guess.
 
 Ian: would it be too much to have the spec say that @rev is valid if and 
 only if its value is made or owner? That way I can continue 
 supporting older versions of lynx until people have updated to a version 
 supporting rel=author

Well HTML5 is far from being ready, I recommend using HTML4 for now and 
getting Lynx to support rel=author in advance of HTML5 coming out.

-- 
Ian Hickson   U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL
http://ln.hixie.ch/   U+263A/,   _.. \   _\  ;`._ ,.
Things that are impossible just take longer.   `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'