[Wien] Electron density at the nucleus (Electron capture nuclear decay rate work)

2010-04-23 Thread Amlan Ray
I have been reading all the messages about the electron density at the Be 
nucleus under compression and would like to say a few things. My background is 
in experimental nuclear physics and I am very interested to undertsand 
quantitatively the results of electron capture experiments in compressed 
material. WIEN2K is probably the best availabale code at this time for this 
purpose. Given my background, please excuse me if I make any incorrect 
statements. I shall be grateful if you would kindly point out my mistakes. 
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1) Let me start with the Physics justification for thinking why Be 1s wave 
function should satisfy boundary conditions at the muffintin radius RMT(Be). As 
I understand, in this model, 1s electrons are seeing scf-potential of the 
crystal only within the Be sphere. Outside the Be sphere, it should see the 
potential of the interstitial region. Since there is an abrupt change of 
potential at the muffintin radius RMT(Be), so the wave function inside and 
outside the Be sphere should be different and there should be a matching 
boundary condition at RMT(Be). If we assume that outside the Be sphere, the 1s 
wave function should be that of a free Be ion, then it should be matched with 
the core wave function inside the Be sphere at RMT(Be). 
As a gross oversimplification, I suggested that the 1s wave function outside 
RMT(Be) might be taken as zero, because I thought that would be relatively easy 
to implement.(But I agree it was a?wrong boundary condition.)??However ?my main 
point is that the core wave function inside and outside the Be sphere should be 
different and there should be boundary conditions at RMT(Be). 
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2) I think whether compression would delocalize 1s wave function?should depend 
on the boundary condition applied. If the only boundary condition is that the 
core wave function would be zero at infinity, then of course, it will 
delocalize under compression. But probably there should be boundary conditions 
at RMT(Be).
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3) I certainly agree that the tail of 1s wave function would experience more 
attractive potential when BeO is compressed. But I think that would affect the 
core wave function outside the Be sphere. It is not clear to me how that would 
affect the core wave function inside the Be sphere, particularly near the 
nucleus. The potential inside and outside the Be sphere is different and the 
wave functions should, in general, be different with a matching boundary 
condition at RMT(Be). 
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4) I certainly agree that the?contraction of 2s orbital would drive 1s orbital 
into expansion. But the reduction of 1s electron density at the nucleus is 
essentially independent of the muffintin radius used. I have done calculations 
of normal and compressed BeO cases keeping RMT(Be) the same in both the cases 
and have also done calculations by reducing RMT(Be) for the compressed case 
only. The change of 1s electron density at the nucleus remains the same always. 
The change of valence electrons in Be sphere is only 0.01 electrons and I can 
vary this number by adjusting RMT(Be). But that did not affect the change of 1s 
electron density at the nucleus. s-valence electrons in Be sphere can be made 
smaller?for the compressed case by adjusting RMT(Be), but still the result did 
not change. So I think that the effect of 2s orbital contraction on 1s electron 
density at the nucleus is probably very small. 
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5) I know about three experiments (done by different people) where the increase 
of electron capture rate by nuclei under compression?was seen and the effect is 
much more than expected from valence electrons. 
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With best regards

 Amlan Ray
Address
Variable Energy Cyclotron Center
1/AF, Bidhan Nagar
Kolkata - 700064
India

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[Wien] Electron density at the nucleus (Electron capture nuclear decay rate work)

2010-04-23 Thread Peter Blaha
The construction of atomic spheres with a certain RMT is only a mathematical
trick to obtain nicely represented wave functions and potentials in a
convenient way. Of course there is a weak dependency of results on RMT, because
series expansions converge better or worse with different RMTs, but there's
no physics in it.

 RMT(Be). As I understand, in this model, 1s electrons are seeing 
 scf-potential of the crystal only within the Be sphere. Outside the Be 
 sphere, it should see the potential of the interstitial region. Since 
 there is an abrupt change of potential at the muffintin radius RMT(Be), 
 so the wave function inside and outside the Be sphere should be 
 different and there should be a matching boundary condition at RMT(Be). 

No, the 1s electron sees the (spherical) potential not only inside RMT, but
the potential is continued outside with a 1/r tail. (There is only ONE
1s wavefunction on a radial grid reaching to infinity.)
Of course one can discuss this approximation, but as you have shown
yourself, treating the 1s state as valence, where it sees the accurate
non-spherical potential everywhere, does NOT change anything qualitatively
(there is a limited basis set for the Be-s functions when you include 1s,
but that does not matter for this purpose).


  However  my main point is that the core wave function
 inside and outside the Be sphere should be different and there should be 
 boundary conditions at RMT(Be).

 From the above it should be clear, that there is only ONE 1s function.

For a core state, however, we make the approximation that the core-density 
outside
the sphere is added as a constant smeared out over the whole interstitial. Also 
this
is an approximation (and the code gives WARNINGS if the core leakage is too 
large),
but again, your test with 1s as valence (where this is not done) proves that 
there is
no real problem.
PS: In the next release it will be possible to Fourieranalyze the leaking core 
density
and get a correct charge distribution even with sizable core-leakage.


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[Wien] LMO for LSMO

2010-04-23 Thread Peter Blaha
Why don't you create the struct file with w2web ???

Mn1NPT=  781  R0=0.0001 RMT=2.1000   Z: 25.0
O 1NPT=  781  R0=0.0001 RMT=1.5600   Z:  8.0
La1NPT=  781  R0=0.0005 RMT=3.6200   Z: 57.0

We have put lots of effort into it to select meaningful parameters.

One cannot use arbitraryly chosen sphere radii, even the R0 values are not
usable. Either you use the tools we provide, or you must carefully read the UG, 
the
faq pages, S.Cotteniers book, the advises in the mailing list,...
and follow them.

Start a fresh case and create the struct file according to w2web.

Lukasz Plucinski schrieb:
 Dear WIEN2k Experts,
 
 My goal is to calculate LSMO, so I try ideal LMO first.
 
 Initialization and first SCF cycle goes fine, but then I have error in 
 SELECT in the second cycle. I reduced mixing to 0.01 and error still 
 happens:
 
 FORTRAN STOP  LAPW0 END
 FORTRAN STOP  LAPW1 END
 FORTRAN STOP  LAPW1 END
 FORTRAN STOP  LAPW2 END
 FORTRAN STOP  LAPW2 END
 FORTRAN STOP  CORE  END
 FORTRAN STOP  CORE  END
 FORTRAN STOP  MIXER END
 in cycle 2ETEST: 0   CTEST: 0
 FORTRAN STOP  LAPW0 END
 FORTRAN STOP SELECT - Error
 
 stop error
 
 This is with standard PBE GGA, 500 k-points (7x7x7), and with 
 spin-polarized calculations. I didn't try GGA+U yet.
 
 Error files and struct file attached. Same happens without 
 spin-polarized but only in 6th SCF cycle -- error files for 
 non-spin-polarized attached as ZIP.
 
 Could you please advise how to preceed ?
 
 Regards,
 Lukasz
 
 
 
 
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email: pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
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