[Wien] Projected bulk bandstructure

2011-04-04 Thread MingWenmei

Dear all,
In order to get the surface state band structure from a slab calculation, I 
want to plot the bulk projected band structure  for comparison. For example the 
surface of interest is (110), a very tedious way to get bulk projected band 
structure is first to discretize (001) direction with a quite small interval, 
then do a bunch of bulk band structure calculations with the k-points in the 
first step, and finally overlap the band-structures obtained from steps with 
the shared k-point indices parallel to the surface.
I am wondering there is some other easier way for me to do that, or some 
program already implemented in Wien2k for this purpose?
Thanks so much.Wenmei Ming
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[Wien] Projected bulk bandstructure

2011-04-04 Thread Peter Blaha
You would use the fat band representation and specify the surface atoms
and s,p or d-character.

This will show you bands which have large character at the surface.

As next step you repeat that for other atoms. The partial charges of a
surface state decay rapidly into the bulk and the corresponding band
should not have much (any) character of the central planes, while a
bulk state usually is big every where or has some oszillations.

Finally you may inspect the suspect surface state directly in the
case.qtl file and check the decainig charges into the bulk (or even
plot them as function of layers).



Am 04.04.2011 03:48, schrieb MingWenmei:
 Dear all,
 
 In order to get the surface state band structure from a slab calculation, I 
 want to plot the bulk projected band structure for comparison. For example 
 the surface of interest is 
 (110), a very tedious way to get bulk projected band structure is first to 
 discretize (001) direction with a quite small interval, then do a bunch of 
 bulk band structure 
 calculations with the k-points in the first step, and finally overlap the 
 band-structures obtained from steps with the shared k-point indices parallel 
 to the surface.
 
 I am wondering there is! some other easier way for me to do that, or some 
 program already implemented in Wien2k for this purpose?
 
 Thanks so much.
 Wenmei Ming
 
 
 
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[Wien] Hi

2011-04-04 Thread Ulrich Wedig
I guess you are facing the problem that I noted in the mailing list on
march 29th. Please look for:
http://zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/pipermail/wien/2011-March/014424.html
and
http://zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/pipermail/wien/2011-March/014426.html

Best regards,
Ulrich Wedig

On 04/03/2011 10:42 AM, Rajagopalan Mathrubutham wrote:
 Dear Dr Blaha,
 
 Greeting from Rajagopalan Chennai  I have a quad core system with 16 GB
 RAM I am able to run the parallel job in the system When I am trying to
 plot DOS I face some problem namely the case.vector file is missing If I
 run with out parallesation I am able to plot Kindly tell me how to solve
 this problem
 
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[Wien] MPI Strategy

2011-04-04 Thread Peter Blaha
Please read the doku about parallelization in the WIEN2k usersguide.
mpi-parallelization is NOT done over k-points.

mpi-parallelization is useful ONLY for bigger cases, where big depends
on your machine, accuracy and number of processes you want to use.
Typically, the blocksize of an mpi-block should still be at least 1500x1500,
better a bit larger.
If your matrix size is 1, you may use up to 6x6=36 (or 6x4=24 in your case) 
cores, which gives you
1/6 as blocksize. Probably scaling becomes already problematic ...

If your matrix size is smaller/bigger, you have to adjust the number of cores 
which are
useful. Eventually, mpi-parallelization is NOT useful at all.


When you say: This machine does not allow passwordless ssh

what exactly do you mean by that ??

I guess you have to use a queuing system ?? Which one ??
Could it be, that ssh is blocked interactively, but it works fine within a
batch-job ?
Sometimes, rsh works within batch-jobs,...
You need to have some doku or some expert on the specific machine.
I'm pretty confident that there are rather simple ways to overcome any
restrictions due to a special sysadmin-setup, but most one needs to
know all kinds of details and testing ...

Am 01.04.2011 14:05, schrieb David Tompsett:
 Dear All,

 I have recently moved my Wien2k calculations to a new machine (Hector in the 
 UK). This machine does not allow passwordless ssh and therefore disables the 
 k-point parallel part of
 Wien2k. I therefore want to clarify some points about how MPI (chiefly 
 lapw1_mpi) works in Wien2k.

 If I run a calculation with say 5 k-points using 5 nodes that each have 24 
 cores, then will the MPI call of lapw1_mpi split the 5 k-points over the 5 
 nodes? Or will it simply run
 the k-points one at a time, using all 120 cores for each one?

 Is there any documentation I can read about the MPI parallel strategy more 
 generally?

 Many thanks,
 David Tompsett.



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[Wien] increase NGAU

2011-04-04 Thread lisa.siggel...@lrz.tu-muenchen.de
Thanks a lot for your quick reply. I will guess the NGAU and recompile.

Concerning the error message: by default the program generates the LM-list
up to LMMAX=6. The calculations then runs without any problem. When i am
increasing the LMMAX=7 or above i receive the error message below.
Interestingly this error message was posted before:
http://zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/pipermail/wien/2008-October/011579.html.
Here exactly the same values for L and M are listed.

I would be thankful for expanation on this point.

Thanks,
Lisa


 In principle you have to test it and increase it eventually a couple of
 times.

 However, I'm a bit surprised that the problem happens for L=4 ???

 Am 03.04.2011 11:50, schrieb Lisa.Siggelkow at lrz.tu-muenchen.de:
 Dear Wien2k users,

 i am using Wien2k_10.1 and at the moment i am performing calculations
 concerning Bader's AIM. As i have the impression, that the charge
 density
 calculated could be better, i increased the default LM-list up to
 LMMAX=8. I obtain an error message:

 Error in LAPW1
   'ATPAR' - more than NGAU gaunts
   'ATPAR' -   NGAU,   L0,   LP,   LL,M,   MP,   MM
   'ATPAR' -   2350,4,4,4,   -1,3,   -4,

 telling me to increase NGAU in param.inc and to recompile afterwards. My
 problem is now, that i do not know to which value i should increase
 NGAU?
 Could you instruct me how to calculate this? And where do i find the
 value
 of 'ATPAR'?
 I would appreciate any help on this topic,

 thanks a lot,

 Lisa Siggelkow

 Department Chemie
 TU M?nchen

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[Wien] wien2k and surfaces

2011-04-04 Thread César de la Fuente
Dear all,

Some questions to whom may concern.

1)I'm trying to do calculations of one atom (or two atoms, etc) on a surface
but I'm not success.
Can wien2k do calculations with one atom or two atoms on a surface
(vac+substrate) as for example VASP's program do?. I guess not, but anyone
can confirm that?. If yes, anyone knows a reference?

2) I'm success on doing one layer on a surface calculations as it is well
explained in Wien2k's guide, for my case, by using two different atoms.
But...
Can wien2k include spin-orbit coupling for this two atoms by using two
different magnetization directions?. I guess not, because lapwso seems to
work just with one magnetization directions. Can anyone confirm? 

3) How different could be the calculations between those using the -in1orig
and -in1new (the default) option? It is just that I m getting good charge
convergence calculations by using the -in1org option, otherwise the scf
process stops after first scf (i.e. wien2k cannot print out the new case.in1
file I m not sure the criteria used by wien2k in that case)
Can these calculations include some inner error not warned by the filters of
Wien2k? .

4) Is it normal that scf stops (with -in1orig option) at the 7 or 9 cycle,
for example, without errors and without charge convergence yet obtained? 

Many thanks in advance for your reply,

Regards,
C?sar de la Fuente.

PS: The wien2k version is the last one and it is compiled with ifort
12.0.084 by using -O1 as optimization option (ifort 12 still having bugs)




[Wien] wien2k and surfaces

2011-04-04 Thread Laurence Marks
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:13 PM, C?sar de la Fuente cesar at unizar.es wrote:
 Dear all,

 Some questions to whom may concern.

 1)I'm trying to do calculations of one atom (or two atoms, etc) on a surface
 but I'm not success.
 Can wien2k do calculations with one atom or two atoms on a surface
 (vac+substrate) as for example VASP's program do?. I guess not, but anyone
 can confirm that?. If yes, anyone knows a reference?

It can do this easily, see the publication list (many references)


 2) I'm success on doing one layer on a surface calculations as it is well
 explained in Wien2k's guide, for my case, by using two different atoms.
 But...
 Can wien2k include spin-orbit coupling for this two atoms by using two
 different magnetization directions?. I guess not, because lapwso seems to
 work just with one magnetization directions. Can anyone confirm?

 3) How different could be the calculations between those using the -in1orig
 and -in1new (the default) option? It is just that I m getting good charge
 convergence calculations by using the -in1org option, otherwise the scf
 process stops after first scf (i.e. wien2k cannot print out the new case.in1
 file I m not sure the criteria used by wien2k in that case)
 Can these calculations include some inner error not warned by the filters of
 Wien2k? .


-in1new is (my opinion) obsolete

 4) Is it normal that scf stops (with -in1orig option) at the 7 or 9 cycle,
 for example, without errors and without charge convergence yet obtained?

 Many thanks in advance for your reply,

 Regards,
 C?sar de la Fuente.

 PS: The wien2k version is the last one and it is compiled with ifort
 12.0.084 by using -O1 as optimization option (ifort 12 still having bugs)


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[Wien] intraband contribution for optical calculation

2011-04-04 Thread Peter Blaha
Try the CPC paper from Ambrosch+Sofo as mentioned in the UG (optics)

 I'm interested in the intraband contribution for optical calculation.
 so if someone knows a good reference/documentation about this, please advise.

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[Wien] Projected bulk bandstructure

2011-04-04 Thread Peter Blaha
You have to do this manually.

Plot the bulk bands in the desired plane/direction, but with different k-z 
values.
This should allow you to define the projections.

Am 04.04.2011 18:36, schrieb MingWenmei:
 Hi Pblaha,
 
 Thank you so much for you immediate reply.
 I want to put together the slab band structure and corresponding bulk band 
 structure, and then compare the two. If there appears some extra bands other 
 than the 
 well-defined bulk bands, we may perceive these extra bands are closely 
 related to the surface structure from the slab.
 Then my question is: how I do the 2D-projected bulk band structure, since in 
 wien2k the available band structure plot is basically 3-D plot(in the sense 
 you should specify 
 the k-points in (kx,ky,kz) form).
 
 Thanks for sharing some experience.
 Wenmei Ming
 
   Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 08:33:25 +0200
   From: pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
   To: wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
   Subject: Re: [Wien] Projected bulk bandstructure
  
   You would use the fat band representation and specify the surface atoms
   and s,p or d-character.
  ! ;
   This will show you bands which have large character at the surface.
  
   As next step you repeat that for other atoms. The partial charges of a
   surface state decay rapidly into the bulk and the corresponding band
   should not have much (any) character of the central planes, while a
   bulk state usually is big every where or has some oszillations.
  
   Finally you may inspect the suspect surface state directly in the
   case.qtl file and check the decainig charges into the bulk (or even
   plot them as function of layers).
  
  
  
   Am 04.04.2011 03:48, schrieb MingWenmei:
Dear all,
   
In order to get the surface state band structure from a slab 
 calculation, I want to plot the bulk projected band structure for comparison. 
 For example the surface of 
 interest is
(110), a very tedious way to get bulk projected band structure is first 
 t! o discretize (001) direction with a quite small interval, then do a bu nch 
 of bulk band 
 structure
calculations with the k-points in the first step, and finally overlap 
 the band-structures obtained from steps with the shared k-point indices 
 parallel to the surface.
   
I am wondering there is! some other easier way for me to do that, or 
 some program already implemented in Wien2k for this purpose?
   
Thanks so much.
Wenmei Ming
   
   
   
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[Wien] convert

2011-04-04 Thread MAHDI SALMANI HIRMAND
Dear Wien2k Users,
I need to describe other symmetries with P
lattice type ( P
lattice type can support all primitive lattices except Hexagonal symmetry).

Is it necessary to convert position of atoms for this goal or not?

If your answer is YES how?

Sincerely
Mahdi 
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