Re: [WikiEN-l] Announcement: Survey study on the categorization of contributors to Wikipedia
The first survey's fine. :-) I'm merely suggesting you put out a second survey once this one's harvested. The second survey, of course, would focus more on exploring what we like about anonymity, as you've indicated you're seeing that unexpected trend. Sorry for the confusion! God bless, Bob On 2/17/2011 10:41 AM, Jeroen Kleijn wrote: Hi, Thanks for the quick reply. Do you mean that you are waiting on a new URL of the survey? I have edited the currenct survey so the URL given in my first email is still correct. Do I need to post the full message again before publishing (on the list), or will this be done by the moderators of the list? Sorry for the inconvenience, but maybe I misunderstood? Regards, Jeroen Kleijn Op 17-02-11 16:44, Bob the Wikipedian schreef: Mr. Kleijn-- Sounds like a followup survey's in order, then, and I'd be more than willing to participate. I won't hold the question's format against you-- questionnaires are very difficult to write without leading the questionnee. God bless, Bob On 2/17/2011 6:44 AM, Jeroen Kleijn wrote: Hello, At first: thank you for replying. I've checked the grammar of the survey and made some corrections in the introduction. Although I can't see any grammar errors in the questions. Concerning your second point about vandalism I agree. The results (I've launched the survey last sunday) show that most of the respondents say that anonimity is not a problem but Wikipedia's greatest strength. But I'm still curious about this topic and would like to check it. Therefore, I hope that I could run the survey on the WikiEN list. Regards, Jeroen Kleijn Dear all, I'm a Master student and currently busy with my thesis concerning Wikipedia. This survey is part of a Master Thesis research project which investigates the effects of the increasing participation at reliability of Wikipedia. The survey is designed to collect information that will help me to identify the contributors to Wikipedia. I would like to invite you to answer my online survey, which is available at: http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=ag5flewr68z06ay867574 To be eligible for this investigation you should be an user of Wikipedia who has contributed to the website by creating or editing an article. The questionnaire will take approximately 5 minutes to complete. To allow for reliable results, I hope that as many contributors as possible complete the questionnaire. You would especially help me if you could link to the questionnaire or forward this e-mail to people who don't regularly read this list. Your support would be greatly appreciated! With regards, Jeroen Kleijn Op 14-02-11 11:29, michael west schreef: On 13 February 2011 16:47, Jeroen Kleijnjeroenkl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I'm a Master student and currently busy with my thesis concerning Wikipedia. This survey is part of a Master Thesis research project that investigates the effects of the increasing participation at reliability of Wikipedia. The survey is designed to collect information that will help me to identify the contributors to Wikipedia. I would like to invite you to answer my online survey, which is available at: http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=ag5flewr68z06ay867574 To be eligible for this investigation you should be an user of Wikipedia who has contributed to the website by creating or editing an article. The questionnaire will take approximately 5 minutes to complete. To allow for reliable results, I hope that as many contributors as possible complete the questionnaire. You would especially help me if you could link to the questionnaire or forward this e-mail to people who don't regularly read this list. Your support would be greatly appreciated! With regards, Jeroen Kleijn Check your grammar on the survey. and in terms of the question relating to anonymity and vandalism, most editors will not describe it as a problem. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list
[WikiEN-l] List of includipedias
Every now and then something gets nominated for deletion and fans of it go feral and say I'm going to start an inclusionist fork! No notability policy! Do we have a list of these anywhere? - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] List of includipedias
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 8:44 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Every now and then something gets nominated for deletion and fans of it go feral and say I'm going to start an inclusionist fork! No notability policy! Do we have a list of these anywhere? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Alternative_outlets has some. Angela ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] List of includipedias
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 09:44, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Every now and then something gets nominated for deletion and fans of it go feral and say I'm going to start an inclusionist fork! No notability policy! Do we have a list of these anywhere? The ones off the top of my head: Citizendium, Deletionpedia, Knowino, Wikinfo, Includipedia. It would be useful if the page on WP for Mirrors and forks was split into separate listings for straight mirrors and forks, and having a brief description of what exactly the premise of the fork (if any) is. -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ Please don't print this e-mail out unless you want a hard copy of it. If you do, go ahead. I won't stop you. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Announcement: Survey study on the categorization of contributors to Wikipedia
Hi Jeroen, you might also want to look at some of the forks of Wikipedia such as Citizendium and Conservapedia and see how successful they have been with their policies of restricting IP editing and even pseudonymous editing. Also there was some discussion about this on the Strategy project. For example: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Less_anonymity http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal_talk:Get_rid_of_the_global_anonymity http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Require_all_new_user_Accounts_to_start_as_anonymous The big questions that proposals to end anonymity tend to founder on are: 1 How do you persuade good editors to go through an id verification process before they start editing? 2 If you skip the verification process how do you avoid the scenario where you haven't dissuaded any of the trolls and vandals who will happily give you a false name, but you have lost a large part of your good editors? 3 A lot of our editors are young. Some are very young. Is it ethical to encourage them to broadcast their identity on the Internet and create a permanent record of their adolescent views on many controversial topics? 4 Wikipedia was largely written by anonymous authors, would it be ethical to disown them now and prevent them from being part of the project? WereSpielChequers On 18 February 2011 08:26, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote: The first survey's fine. :-) I'm merely suggesting you put out a second survey once this one's harvested. The second survey, of course, would focus more on exploring what we like about anonymity, as you've indicated you're seeing that unexpected trend. Sorry for the confusion! God bless, Bob On 2/17/2011 10:41 AM, Jeroen Kleijn wrote: Hi, Thanks for the quick reply. Do you mean that you are waiting on a new URL of the survey? I have edited the currenct survey so the URL given in my first email is still correct. Do I need to post the full message again before publishing (on the list), or will this be done by the moderators of the list? Sorry for the inconvenience, but maybe I misunderstood? Regards, Jeroen Kleijn Op 17-02-11 16:44, Bob the Wikipedian schreef: Mr. Kleijn-- Sounds like a followup survey's in order, then, and I'd be more than willing to participate. I won't hold the question's format against you-- questionnaires are very difficult to write without leading the questionnee. God bless, Bob On 2/17/2011 6:44 AM, Jeroen Kleijn wrote: Hello, At first: thank you for replying. I've checked the grammar of the survey and made some corrections in the introduction. Although I can't see any grammar errors in the questions. Concerning your second point about vandalism I agree. The results (I've launched the survey last sunday) show that most of the respondents say that anonimity is not a problem but Wikipedia's greatest strength. But I'm still curious about this topic and would like to check it. Therefore, I hope that I could run the survey on the WikiEN list. Regards, Jeroen Kleijn Dear all, I'm a Master student and currently busy with my thesis concerning Wikipedia. This survey is part of a Master Thesis research project which investigates the effects of the increasing participation at reliability of Wikipedia. The survey is designed to collect information that will help me to identify the contributors to Wikipedia. I would like to invite you to answer my online survey, which is available at: http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=ag5flewr68z06ay867574 To be eligible for this investigation you should be an user of Wikipedia who has contributed to the website by creating or editing an article. The questionnaire will take approximately 5 minutes to complete. To allow for reliable results, I hope that as many contributors as possible complete the questionnaire. You would especially help me if you could link to the questionnaire or forward this e-mail to people who don't regularly read this list. Your support would be greatly appreciated! With regards, Jeroen Kleijn Op 14-02-11 11:29, michael west schreef: On 13 February 2011 16:47, Jeroen Kleijnjeroenkl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I'm a Master student and currently busy with my thesis concerning Wikipedia. This survey is part of a Master Thesis research project that investigates the effects of the increasing participation at reliability of Wikipedia. The survey is designed to collect information that will help me to identify the contributors to Wikipedia. I would like to invite you to answer my online survey, which is available at: http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=ag5flewr68z06ay867574 To be eligible for this investigation you should be an user of Wikipedia who has contributed to the website by creating or editing an article. The questionnaire will
[WikiEN-l] Missing Wikipedians: An Essay
Heather Ford, a former Wikimedia advisory board member and researcher/writer in South Africa has written an essay, The Missing Wikipedians about systematic bias on English Wikipedia (especially) against new users and topics pertinent to Africa and other diverse places/people. As an example, she cites the English Wikipedia article [[Makmende]] and the deletion request made, biting the newbie. http://hblog.org/2011/02/16/the-missing-wikipedians/ Please read and discuss. What might we do to help make Wikipedia a more welcoming place for newbies and for such diverse topics? Cheers, Katie (@aude) ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
