Re: [WikiEN-l] Future of this mailing list

2014-12-02 Thread Carcharoth
The moderators of Wikimedia-l would need to agree to that. En-specific
stuff would be off-topic there. Could someone cross-post this there if that
is allowed? Also best to wait for one of the moderators here to weigh in.

On Tuesday, December 2, 2014, FRED BAUDER fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
 How about disabling new posts, or forwarding new posts to Wikimedia-l,
making a referral to Wikimedia-l in the info, and leaving the archives open.

 Fred Bauder

 On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 00:26:31 +
  Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:

 If the moderators of this mailing list are around, would they or
 anyone else subscribed to the list be able to throw up some statistics
 about how much the traffic has declined over the past few years? I'm
 asking because looking at the archives, I think that last month
 (November 2014) was the first month since the mailing list started in
 September 2001 that there were no posts to the this mailing list (the
 wiki-en-l mailing list for discussion of matters related to the
 English Wikipedia).

 Admittedly, the list has been moribund for a long time, but I'm not
 sure exactly when the tipping point was reached (most meta-discussion
 seems to take place either on-wiki, at meta, or on the Wikimedia-l
 mailing list). What is the general view in the Wikimedia universe on
 maintaining low-traffic lists like this? It might be time to discuss
 what future this mailing list has.

 https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

 Actually, looking at the list of moderators, how many of them are still
around?

 Carcharoth

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Future of this mailing list

2014-12-02 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I kinda like the separation between cross-project and cross-language issues
on Wikimedia-L and the discussion about English Wikipedia, but if nobody is
interested in the existence of this list, I won't be very sad if it shut
down.

I'd shut down Wikipedia-L first, however - that one is really dead, except
occasional people who pop in by mistake every few months.


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2014-12-02 2:26 GMT+02:00 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com:

 If the moderators of this mailing list are around, would they or
 anyone else subscribed to the list be able to throw up some statistics
 about how much the traffic has declined over the past few years? I'm
 asking because looking at the archives, I think that last month
 (November 2014) was the first month since the mailing list started in
 September 2001 that there were no posts to the this mailing list (the
 wiki-en-l mailing list for discussion of matters related to the
 English Wikipedia).

 Admittedly, the list has been moribund for a long time, but I'm not
 sure exactly when the tipping point was reached (most meta-discussion
 seems to take place either on-wiki, at meta, or on the Wikimedia-l
 mailing list). What is the general view in the Wikimedia universe on
 maintaining low-traffic lists like this? It might be time to discuss
 what future this mailing list has.

 https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

 Actually, looking at the list of moderators, how many of them are still
 around?

 Carcharoth

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Future of this mailing list

2014-12-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 December 2014 at 10:12, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

 I kinda like the separation between cross-project and cross-language issues
 on Wikimedia-L and the discussion about English Wikipedia, but if nobody is
 interested in the existence of this list, I won't be very sad if it shut
 down.


Despite the lengthy moderator list, I'm about it for actually
bothering. Not that there's much to do.

In the world of mailing lists, en:wp discussion tends to happen on
wikimedia-l, if at all.


 I'd shut down Wikipedia-L first, however - that one is really dead, except
 occasional people who pop in by mistake every few months.


+1


- d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Future of this mailing list

2014-12-02 Thread Brian J Mingus
What is there to say?

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com
wrote:

 If the moderators of this mailing list are around, would they or
 anyone else subscribed to the list be able to throw up some statistics
 about how much the traffic has declined over the past few years? I'm
 asking because looking at the archives, I think that last month
 (November 2014) was the first month since the mailing list started in
 September 2001 that there were no posts to the this mailing list (the
 wiki-en-l mailing list for discussion of matters related to the
 English Wikipedia).

 Admittedly, the list has been moribund for a long time, but I'm not
 sure exactly when the tipping point was reached (most meta-discussion
 seems to take place either on-wiki, at meta, or on the Wikimedia-l
 mailing list). What is the general view in the Wikimedia universe on
 maintaining low-traffic lists like this? It might be time to discuss
 what future this mailing list has.

 https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

 Actually, looking at the list of moderators, how many of them are still
 around?

 Carcharoth

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[WikiEN-l] Fwd: please cease and desist from unsolicited subscriptions

2014-12-02 Thread lkcl .
could someone please urgently investigate this individual.

a) who is this person
b) what authority do they have
c) what links do they have to the Wikipedia Foundation

and what the heck is going on: what is this about my email address
being added as a banned user?  i am a long-standing contributor to
wikipedia including the strategic discussions from 2011.

l.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Russia Aviation russiaviat...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: please cease and desist from unsolicited subscriptions
To: luke.leigh...@gmail.com


Your email ID was added as a banned user of Wikipedia who was unjustly
banned by fascist organisers.

On 12/2/14, luke.leigh...@gmail.com luke.leigh...@gmail.com wrote:
 i have reported your group for net abuse due to an unsolicited subscription.
  you DO NOT have the right to subscribe people without their explicit
 authorisation to arbitrary random mailing lists or groups.  wherever you got
 my email address from you will inform me IMMEDIATELY.



-- Forwarded message --
From: Russavia (Google Groups) gender-gap+nore...@googlegroups.com
Date: Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:31 AM
Subject: Google Groups: You've been added to Gender Gap
To: luke.leigh...@gmail.com



Gendergap International : Addressing gender equity and exploring ways
to increase the participation of women within international Wikimedia
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: please cease and desist from unsolicited subscriptions

2014-12-02 Thread Elias Friedman
Sounds like a group intended for people with an axe to grind regarding
Wikipedia. I would pay it no mind. You also might consider setting your
Google Groups profile to not allow admins to add you to groups without your
say so.

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On Dec 2, 2014 11:26 AM, lkcl . luke.leigh...@gmail.com wrote:

 could someone please urgently investigate this individual.

 a) who is this person
 b) what authority do they have
 c) what links do they have to the Wikipedia Foundation

 and what the heck is going on: what is this about my email address
 being added as a banned user?  i am a long-standing contributor to
 wikipedia including the strategic discussions from 2011.

 l.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Russia Aviation russiaviat...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:24 PM
 Subject: Re: please cease and desist from unsolicited subscriptions
 To: luke.leigh...@gmail.com


 Your email ID was added as a banned user of Wikipedia who was unjustly
 banned by fascist organisers.

 On 12/2/14, luke.leigh...@gmail.com luke.leigh...@gmail.com wrote:
  i have reported your group for net abuse due to an unsolicited
 subscription.
   you DO NOT have the right to subscribe people without their explicit
  authorisation to arbitrary random mailing lists or groups.  wherever you
 got
  my email address from you will inform me IMMEDIATELY.
 


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Russavia (Google Groups) gender-gap+nore...@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:31 AM
 Subject: Google Groups: You've been added to Gender Gap
 To: luke.leigh...@gmail.com



 Gendergap International : Addressing gender equity and exploring ways
 to increase the participation of women within international Wikimedia
 projects.


 About this group:

 Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the
 participation of women within Wikimedia projects. We want to encourage
 you to engage with others in this effort.


 The owner of the group has set your subscription type as Email,
 meaning that you'll receive a copy of every message posted to the
 group as they are posted.

 Visit This Group

 Start your own group, unsubscribe from this group, or stop invitations
 like this. or report spam.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: please cease and desist from unsolicited subscriptions

2014-12-02 Thread geni
On 2 December 2014 at 16:25, lkcl . luke.leigh...@gmail.com wrote:

 could someone please urgently investigate this individual.

 a) who is this person
 b) what authority do they have
 c) what links do they have to the Wikipedia Foundation



My guess is it is someone impersonating user:Russavia (banned user on
English Wikipedia so a bit outside our jurisdiction anyway) to try and
cause trouble. Certainly that isn't the email address they generally use.

Details of the actual gendergap mailing list can be found at:

https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

The addresses of the admins again do not match those shown in the exchange

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