Re: [WikiEN-l] Licensing IP edits and vanished users under CC0
There is no difference in attribution to a vanished user than there is to any other user who has an account. I don't understand why anyone would think otherwise. Risker On 17 August 2015 at 16:20, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: On 17 August 2015 at 16:04, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Currently our default license for EN wiki is CC BY-SA 3.0, but isn't this a bit odd for IP editors and vanished users? Wouldn't it make more sense if IP editors were licensing their edits as CC SA, and vanishing users as part of vanishing were relicensing their edits as CC-SA? The CC-SA license doesn't exist ;-) Presumably you meant CC-0. I'd agree with Oliver that changing this would probably be more complexity than it's worth. The vanishing users thing is also a bit concerning. I agree that attributing something to anon-655345 is a bit silly, but equally I don't think we can practically insist that a vanishing user is required to relinquish their copyrights before we let them vanish. A. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] Licensing IP edits and vanished users under CC0
Currently our default license for EN wiki is CC BY-SA 3.0, but isn't this a bit odd for IP editors and vanished users? Wouldn't it make more sense if IP editors were licensing their edits as CC SA, and vanishing users as part of vanishing were relicensing their edits as CC-SA? In one case the only attribution we can make is to an IP address, in the other the editor doesn't want to be attributed. Changing the default license would then give a more transparent reason for registering an address. If you would like your edits to be attributed directly to yourself or indirectly via a nom de plume, then create an account and your logged in edits will be licensed *CC BY-SA 3.0.* Regards WSC ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Licensing IP edits and vanished users under CC0
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is not a conversation for the -en list, this is a conversation for the lawyers and/or wikimedia-l. Individual projects should not be messing with licensing, wherever possible; it creates a highly confusing and contradictory environment. No danger in a discussion, wherever it happens. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Licensing IP edits and vanished users under CC0
This is not a conversation for the -en list, this is a conversation for the lawyers and/or wikimedia-l. Individual projects should not be messing with licensing, wherever possible; it creates a highly confusing and contradictory environment. On 17 August 2015 at 11:04, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Currently our default license for EN wiki is CC BY-SA 3.0, but isn't this a bit odd for IP editors and vanished users? Wouldn't it make more sense if IP editors were licensing their edits as CC SA, and vanishing users as part of vanishing were relicensing their edits as CC-SA? In one case the only attribution we can make is to an IP address, in the other the editor doesn't want to be attributed. Changing the default license would then give a more transparent reason for registering an address. If you would like your edits to be attributed directly to yourself or indirectly via a nom de plume, then create an account and your logged in edits will be licensed *CC BY-SA 3.0.* Regards WSC ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- Oliver Keyes Count Logula Wikimedia Foundation ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Licensing IP edits and vanished users under CC0
Some editors already declare on the userpage that their contributions are licensed under something more permissive than the default (such as CC0, PD, etc ), so maybe such a template could be added to userpages or talks of vanished editors. As for changing the default licensing of IP edits Well, a bold suggestion, and good luck with that! Definitely not something a local project can implement though. Perhaps if meta/global consensus is strong enough to petition WMF Legal your idea might get somewhere. I personally cab definitely see the merits of it. ~Benoit / Salvidrim [Sent from my Nexus 5] On Aug 17, 2015 11:34 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is not a conversation for the -en list, this is a conversation for the lawyers and/or wikimedia-l. Individual projects should not be messing with licensing, wherever possible; it creates a highly confusing and contradictory environment. No danger in a discussion, wherever it happens. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Licensing IP edits and vanished users under CC0
On 17 August 2015 at 16:04, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Currently our default license for EN wiki is CC BY-SA 3.0, but isn't this a bit odd for IP editors and vanished users? Wouldn't it make more sense if IP editors were licensing their edits as CC SA, and vanishing users as part of vanishing were relicensing their edits as CC-SA? The CC-SA license doesn't exist ;-) Presumably you meant CC-0. I'd agree with Oliver that changing this would probably be more complexity than it's worth. The vanishing users thing is also a bit concerning. I agree that attributing something to anon-655345 is a bit silly, but equally I don't think we can practically insist that a vanishing user is required to relinquish their copyrights before we let them vanish. A. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
