[WikiEN-l] People who died in 2014

2014-04-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
I am working towards the point where all the people who died in 2014 are
known as such in Wikidata. At this time all the people of the en,wp who are
in the category 2014 deaths are included. At this time there are over
2900 people known in Wikidata as to have died in 2014 [1].  It uses the
AutoList tool by Magnus Manske.

Amir Ladsgroup wrote a routine that checks against the en,wp and adds
missing deaths to Wikidata. He will also compare the values known to
Wikidata with what is known at Wikipedia and report it [2]

In this way there is the opportunity to improve quality in both Wikipedia
and Wikidata. That is one objective. If you can come up with more things we
can do in a similar way, please consider this.. the technology to report on
differences between a Wikipedia and Wikidata is starting to become a
reality.

At this time the job of Amir has run a few times.. What is needed is better
integration with practices on the English Wikipedia and a proper place for
this report. Obviously this report can be run against any Wikipedia that
has a category for the deaths of 2014. It will take some modifications
though.
Thanks,
  GerardM

[1]
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=claim[31%3A5]%20and%20between[570%2C2014.]
[2] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Ladsgroup/Date_of_death_problems
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Re: [WikiEN-l] People who died in 2014

2014-04-20 Thread Alan Liefting
Doing this for 2014 only creates recentism bias (or has it already been 
done for all previous years?)  Also, the presence of Wikidata does not 
necessarily indicate notability for Wikipedia.


Alan


On 20/04/2014 8:38 p.m., Gerard Meijssen wrote:

Hoi,
I am working towards the point where all the people who died in 2014 are
known as such in Wikidata. At this time all the people of the en,wp who are
in the category 2014 deaths are included. At this time there are over
2900 people known in Wikidata as to have died in 2014 [1].  It uses the
AutoList tool by Magnus Manske.

Amir Ladsgroup wrote a routine that checks against the en,wp and adds
missing deaths to Wikidata. He will also compare the values known to
Wikidata with what is known at Wikipedia and report it [2]

In this way there is the opportunity to improve quality in both Wikipedia
and Wikidata. That is one objective. If you can come up with more things we
can do in a similar way, please consider this.. the technology to report on
differences between a Wikipedia and Wikidata is starting to become a
reality.

At this time the job of Amir has run a few times.. What is needed is better
integration with practices on the English Wikipedia and a proper place for
this report. Obviously this report can be run against any Wikipedia that
has a category for the deaths of 2014. It will take some modifications
though.
Thanks,
   GerardM



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Re: [WikiEN-l] People who died in 2014

2014-04-20 Thread Risker
Well, aside from that

Few of the death dates are sourced on either site, and a couple of the
Enwiki articles actually have two different death dates, one in the infobox
and one in the text.  A few other enwiki articles give a death date but
haven't had their categories changed.

I'd suggest that the list is useful for cleanup, but not for transfer of
information one way or the other.

Risker


On 20 April 2014 14:53, Alan Liefting alieft...@ihug.co.nz wrote:

 Doing this for 2014 only creates recentism bias (or has it already been
 done for all previous years?)  Also, the presence of Wikidata does not
 necessarily indicate notability for Wikipedia.

 Alan



 On 20/04/2014 8:38 p.m., Gerard Meijssen wrote:

 Hoi,
 I am working towards the point where all the people who died in 2014 are
 known as such in Wikidata. At this time all the people of the en,wp who
 are
 in the category 2014 deaths are included. At this time there are over
 2900 people known in Wikidata as to have died in 2014 [1].  It uses the
 AutoList tool by Magnus Manske.

 Amir Ladsgroup wrote a routine that checks against the en,wp and adds
 missing deaths to Wikidata. He will also compare the values known to
 Wikidata with what is known at Wikipedia and report it [2]

 In this way there is the opportunity to improve quality in both Wikipedia
 and Wikidata. That is one objective. If you can come up with more things
 we
 can do in a similar way, please consider this.. the technology to report
 on
 differences between a Wikipedia and Wikidata is starting to become a
 reality.

 At this time the job of Amir has run a few times.. What is needed is
 better
 integration with practices on the English Wikipedia and a proper place for
 this report. Obviously this report can be run against any Wikipedia that
 has a category for the deaths of 2014. It will take some modifications
 though.
 Thanks,
GerardM



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