Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-30 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Casey Brown wrote:

   Was there something missing that you noticed?

   
Not really on-topic, but I couldn't let it go un-remarked-upon
that that is of course one of the classic one-liners, whether
deliberate or not.


Yours,

Jussi-Ville Heiskanen


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[WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette


The Wikimedia Foundation has begun a year long phase of strategic  
planning.  During this time of planning, members of the community have  
the opportunity to propose ideas, ask questions, and help to chart the  
future of the Foundation.  In order to create as centralized an area  
as possible for these discussions, the strategy wiki 
(http://strategy.wikimedia.org 
) has been launched.  This wiki will provide an overview of the  
strategic planning process and ways to get involved, including just a  
few questions that everyone can answer.  All ideas are welcome, and  
'''everyone''' is invited to participate.

Please take a few moments to check out the strategy wiki.  It is being  
translated into as many languages as possible now; feel free to leave  
your messages in your native language and we will have them  
translated  (but, in case of any doubt, let us know what language it  
is, if not english!).

All proposals (see http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Proposals) 
  for the Wikimedia Foundation may be left in any language as well.

Please, take the time to join in this exciting process.  The  
importance of your participation can not be overstated.

[http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Philippe --Philippe]

(please cross-post widely and forgive those who do)
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-29 Thread wjhonson
This main page of strategy.wikimedia.org is merely a icon-listing of 
all the projects.
There is no obvious link to drill down into the strategy wiki itself. 
 No links except to other projects.
And the main page can't be edited.



-Original Message-
From: Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 12:09 pm
Subject: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning












The Wikimedia Foundation has begun a year long phase of strategic
planning.  During this time of planning, members of the community have
the opportunity to propose ideas, ask questions, and help to chart the
future of the Foundation.  In order to create as centralized an area
as possible for these discussions, the strategy wiki 
(http://strategy.wikimedia.org

) has been launched.  This wiki will provide an overview of the
strategic planning process and ways to get involved, including just a
few questions that everyone can answer.  All ideas are welcome, and
'''everyone''' is invited to participate.

Please take a few moments to check out the strategy wiki.  It is being
translated into as many languages as possible now; feel free to leave
your messages in your native language and we will have them
translated  (but, in case of any doubt, let us know what language it
is, if not english!).

All proposals (see 
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Proposals)
  for the Wikimedia Foundation may be left in any language as well.

Please, take the time to join in this exciting process.  The
importance of your participation can not be overstated.

[http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Philippe --Philippe]

(please cross-post widely and forgive those who do)
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-29 Thread wjhonson
Yes http://strategy.wikimedia.org should point with an obvious link to

http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page


Will




-Original Message-
From: Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning










http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:25 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:

 This main page of strategy.wikimedia.org is merely a icon-listing of
 all the projects.
 There is no obvious link to drill down into the strategy wiki 
itself.
  No links except to other projects.
 And the main page can't be edited.



 -Original Message-
 From: Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org
 To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 12:09 pm
 Subject: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning












 The Wikimedia Foundation has begun a year long phase of strategic
 planning.  During this time of planning, members of the community have
 the opportunity to propose ideas, ask questions, and help to chart the
 future of the Foundation.  In order to create as centralized an area
 as possible for these discussions, the strategy wiki
 (http://strategy.wikimedia.org

 ) has been launched.  This wiki will provide an overview of the
 strategic planning process and ways to get involved, including just a
 few questions that everyone can answer.  All ideas are welcome, and
 '''everyone''' is invited to participate.

 Please take a few moments to check out the strategy wiki.  It is being
 translated into as many languages as possible now; feel free to leave
 your messages in your native language and we will have them
 translated  (but, in case of any doubt, let us know what language it
 is, if not english!).

 All proposals (see
 http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_Proposals)
  for the Wikimedia Foundation may be left in any language as well.

 Please, take the time to join in this exciting process.  The
 importance of your participation can not be overstated.

 [http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Philippe --Philippe]

 (please cross-post widely and forgive those who do)
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-29 Thread Casey Brown
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:25 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
 This main page of strategy.wikimedia.org is merely a icon-listing of
 all the projects.
 There is no obvious link to drill down into the strategy wiki itself.
  No links except to other projects.
 And the main page can't be edited.


Sorry, but what do you mean by drill down?  To me, the Main Page
seems to give a great deal of links (and explanations of what those
pages are).  Was there something missing that you noticed?

-- 
Casey Brown
Cbrown1023

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I think the issue was server based.

It's been hiccuping some today and forwarding us to the  
wikimediafoundation.org site... I bet he got caught in one of those.

Philippe


On Jul 29, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Casey Brown wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:25 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
 This main page of strategy.wikimedia.org is merely a icon-listing of
 all the projects.
 There is no obvious link to drill down into the strategy wiki  
 itself.
  No links except to other projects.
 And the main page can't be edited.


 Sorry, but what do you mean by drill down?  To me, the Main Page
 seems to give a great deal of links (and explanations of what those
 pages are).  Was there something missing that you noticed?

 -- 
 Casey Brown
 Cbrown1023

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-29 Thread Brian
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:25 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
  This main page of strategy.wikimedia.org is merely a icon-listing of
  all the projects.
  There is no obvious link to drill down into the strategy wiki itself.
   No links except to other projects.
  And the main page can't be edited.
 

 Sorry, but what do you mean by drill down?  To me, the Main Page
 seems to give a great deal of links (and explanations of what those
 pages are).  Was there something missing that you noticed?

 --
 Casey Brown
 Cbrown1023



Apparantly there is still dome dns propagation occuring. What I see at
strategy.wikimedia.org is not what I saw when I received the first e-mail. I
saw what whjohnson saw - a portal. Now it resolves to the wiki.
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-29 Thread wjhonson
The top level page is a listing of all the other projects, Wikipedia, 
Wikisource, etc.
Strategy not being one of those listed.


Sorry, but what do you mean by drill down?  To me, the Main Page
seems to give a great deal of links (and explanations of what those
pages are).  Was there something missing that you noticed?





-Original Message-
From: Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning










On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:25 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
 This main page of strategy.wikimedia.org is merely a icon-listing of
 all the projects.
 There is no obvious link to drill down into the strategy wiki 
itself.
  No links except to other projects.
 And the main page can't be edited.


Sorry, but what do you mean by drill down?  To me, the Main Page
seems to give a great deal of links (and explanations of what those
pages are).  Was there something missing that you noticed?

--
Casey Brown
Cbrown1023

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-29 Thread wjhonson
Okay makes sense now.  Now it redirects me, before it wasn't.


-Original Message-
From: Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning










On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org 
wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:25 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
  This main page of strategy.wikimedia.org is merely a icon-listing of
  all the projects.
  There is no obvious link to drill down into the strategy wiki 
itself.
   No links except to other projects.
  And the main page can't be edited.
 

 Sorry, but what do you mean by drill down?  To me, the Main Page
 seems to give a great deal of links (and explanations of what those
 pages are).  Was there something missing that you noticed?

 --
 Casey Brown
 Cbrown1023



Apparantly there is still dome dns propagation occuring. What I see at
strategy.wikimedia.org is not what I saw when I received the first 
e-mail. I
saw what whjohnson saw - a portal. Now it resolves to the wiki.
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette
wjhonson, it's really not, despite the way it's acting for you.  For  
whatever reason, a small number of people are being forwarded to the  
wrong site, and the servers are confused.  I'm sorry you got caught in  
it.  That link really leads to the main page.

Philippe


On Jul 29, 2009, at 5:14 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:

 The top level page is a listing of all the other projects, Wikipedia,
 Wikisource, etc.
 Strategy not being one of those listed.


 Sorry, but what do you mean by drill down?  To me, the Main Page
 seems to give a great deal of links (and explanations of what those
 pages are).  Was there something missing that you noticed?




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Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-29 Thread Casey Brown
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Brianbrian.min...@colorado.edu wrote:
 Apparantly there is still dome dns propagation occuring. What I see at
 strategy.wikimedia.org is not what I saw when I received the first e-mail. I
 saw what whjohnson saw - a portal. Now it resolves to the wiki.

Ah okay.  DNS *can* be a nasty bugger sometimes. :-)  But still, if
you guys find anything that you think *should* be on the Main Page or
should be different, the convenors have been very attentive and open
to comments and suggestions.  I'm sure they'd love to hear any of your
thoughts. :-)

-- 
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-29 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Philippe
Beaudettepbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Please, take the time to join in this exciting process.  The
 importance of your participation can not be overstated.

This still makes it sound as though community participation is
optional, and is input into some larger non-public process.  How about
this:

Planning for the future is determined by your input.  Come discuss
future directions for the Projects, how the Foundation can facilitate
the work of the Projects, and how we should allocate time and
resources to best support our mission.


SJ

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Request for help: Strategic Planning

2009-07-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette
What he said. :)

I'm changing my invite message.  Your way is better.

Philippe


On Jul 29, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:

 Planning for the future is determined by your input.  Come discuss
 future directions for the Projects, how the Foundation can facilitate
 the work of the Projects, and how we should allocate time and
 resources to best support our mission.


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