Re: [WikiEN-l] So who's beta-testing the Visual Editor?

2013-05-19 Thread Katherine Casey
I've found it very difficult to test out the VE because so much of what I
do involves, one way or another, templates (which don't work yet in VE).
Manipulating anything to do with a source, for example, is out. Adding tags
to an article is out. Infoboxes are out. And so forth. I suspect once
templates and, more specifically, references are up and running, it will be
much, much easier to test VE as part of one's workflow.

-Fluffernutter


On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 4:43 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is all the Visual Editor edits in en:wp:


 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangestagfilter=visualeditor

 It's not many. So please switch it on (you can still click Edit
 source to do references and templates) and give it a good kicking. A
 bug discovered now saves endless newbie pain later.


 - d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] So who's beta-testing the Visual Editor?

2013-05-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 May 2013 05:38, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:

 As I think I commented elsewhere, the lack of references is a deal
 breaker for me, even for testing. A couple of times already I started
 making an edit with the VE, then went to add a reference...and hard to
 start over in the source editor.


I've been using it for typos.


 That said, I haven't seen any bugs. It looks really, really good.


Still getting pawns show up occasionally. (Reliable way to manifest
them: edit a list.)


- d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] So who's beta-testing the Visual Editor?

2013-05-12 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 6:43 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is all the Visual Editor edits in en:wp:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangestagfilter=visualeditor

 It's not many. So please switch it on (you can still click Edit
 source to do references and templates) and give it a good kicking. A
 bug discovered now saves endless newbie pain later.

As I think I commented elsewhere, the lack of references is a deal
breaker for me, even for testing. A couple of times already I started
making an edit with the VE, then went to add a reference...and hard to
start over in the source editor.

That said, I haven't seen any bugs. It looks really, really good.

Steve

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[WikiEN-l] So who's beta-testing the Visual Editor?

2013-05-11 Thread David Gerard
This is all the Visual Editor edits in en:wp:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangestagfilter=visualeditor

It's not many. So please switch it on (you can still click Edit
source to do references and templates) and give it a good kicking. A
bug discovered now saves endless newbie pain later.


- d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] So who's beta-testing the Visual Editor?

2013-05-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/5/11 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
 This is all the Visual Editor edits in en:wp:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangestagfilter=visualeditor

 It's not many. So please switch it on (you can still click Edit
 source to do references and templates) and give it a good kicking. A
 bug discovered now saves endless newbie pain later.

Mmmm... so I know that it's the English Wikipedia mailing list, but I
suppose that this won't hurt:

In the Hebrew Wikipedia several people tried the VisualEditor. I
counted seven newly reported bugs as a result of this, and one
reopened. There were also a few WONTFIXes, INVALIDs and dupes. Two of
the new bugs were already fixed.

I think that it's a reasonable response level to a brand new opt-in
feature, which is barely alpha quality. It's not big, but it's much
more than zero.

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I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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Re: [WikiEN-l] So who's beta-testing the Visual Editor?

2013-05-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 May 2013 22:08, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

 Mmmm... so I know that it's the English Wikipedia mailing list, but I
 suppose that this won't hurt:
 In the Hebrew Wikipedia several people tried the VisualEditor. I
 counted seven newly reported bugs as a result of this, and one
 reopened. There were also a few WONTFIXes, INVALIDs and dupes. Two of
 the new bugs were already fixed.
 I think that it's a reasonable response level to a brand new opt-in
 feature, which is barely alpha quality. It's not big, but it's much
 more than zero.


True. Testing early and often is particularly important for a
right-to-left language, since those are generally neglected in the
Latin alphabet computing world.


- d.

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