Re: [Wikitech-l] More fun and games with file position relative code
2009/8/14 Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org: On my production wiki I have phase3/ checked out in /var/www/w, and some extensions individually checked out in subdirectories of /var/www/w/extensions. When I do svn up in /var/www/w, that doesn't update the other repositories in extensions/; I have to do svn up . extensions/* instead. Does commit work differently, or am I misunderstanding? svn up works just fine for this too in my experience. Perhaps your 'extensions' dir isn't SVN-managed for some reason, or something? The reason this is happening is that Brion did rm -rf extensions/ svn co svn+ssh://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/trunk/mediawiki/extensions whereas Aryeh (and I too, FTM) did cd extensions/ svn co svn+ssh://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/trunk/mediawiki/extensions/Foo svn co svn+ssh://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/trunk/mediawiki/extensions/Bar In the latter case, you don't get all extensions, but svn commands on phase3 don't affect extensions. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Foundation-l] Question to post...
* Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org [Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:13:38 -0700]: That's been deployed for a while, eg: link rel=canonical href=/wiki/Foobar / at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo I haven't found such code in MediaWiki 54916 snapshot from SVN (currently seems to be running at WMF). I am missing the code (I've looked into monobook and grepped for canonical through the subtree), or does it use some kind of extension? The most logical place for it is the monobook skin source code. Dmitriy ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] More fun and games with file position relative code
Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Ilmari Karonennos...@vyznev.net wrote: You don't need symlinks for that, a simple svn switch works just fine. Could you explain in more detail? I don't get how that would work. From memory (don't feel like doing a new checkout over this crappy wlan just to test it right now): svn co svn+ssh://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/trunk/mediawiki/phase3 foo svn switch svn+ssh://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/trunk/mediawiki/extensions foo/extensions But you're right, that doesn't really work if you only want a few extensions, not all of them. Although, IME, for a development copy one usually does want all the extensions, if any. -- Ilmari Karonen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Wiki not responding to patches
There might be an aggressive cache like APC that is configured not to check for changes. In this case, you need to stop and then start your web server. But it's a rare case, I would say. Thank you, Sergey -- Sergey Chernyshev http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/ On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.comsimetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Taja Anandtaja.w...@gmail.com wrote: 3) removed all the content of index.php !! [it still runs] Then you're editing the wrong files. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] identifier collisions
One of the first problems to solve in developing the proposed CPRT is how to call a function with the same name in two different MW distributions. I can think of 3 ways: 1) use the Namespace facility of PHP 5.3, 2) use threads, or 3) use separate process and IPC. Since MAMP supports none of these I am off building an AMP installation from scratch. Some questions: * Are there other ways to solve the identifier collision problem? * Are some of the options I mention unsuitable for a MW CPRT, e.g., currently MW only assumes PHP 5.0 and requiring 5.3 may unacceptably constrain the user base. * Is MW thread safe? Dan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] identifier collisions
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:31 AM, dan nessettdness...@yahoo.com wrote: One of the first problems to solve in developing the proposed CPRT is how to call a function with the same name in two different MW distributions. I can think of 3 ways: 1) use the Namespace facility of PHP 5.3, 2) use threads, or 3) use separate process and IPC. Since MAMP supports none of these I am off building an AMP installation from scratch. Some questions: * Are there other ways to solve the identifier collision problem? * Are some of the options I mention unsuitable for a MW CPRT, e.g., currently MW only assumes PHP 5.0 and requiring 5.3 may unacceptably constrain the user base. * Is MW thread safe? Dan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l I can't really answer to the rest of it, but anything that _requires_ 5.3 would be a no-go at this point. I doubt all of our developers are even on it yet, much less the user base :) -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] identifier collisions
--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru wrote: I remember some time ago I was strongly discouraged to compile and run PHP threaded MPM for apache because some functions or libraries of PHP itself were not thread safe. OK, this and Chad's comment suggests the option is multi-process/IPC. One more question: * Can we assume PHP has PCNLT support or will the test require startup from a shell script? Dan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Video transcoding settings Was: [54611] trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/WikiAtHome.php
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:29 PM, d...@svn.wikimedia.org wrote: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/54611 Revision: 54611 Author: dale Date: 2009-08-07 21:29:26 + (Fri, 07 Aug 2009) Log Message: --- added a explicit keyframeInterval per gmaxwell's mention on wikitech-l. (I get ffmpeg2theora: unrecognized option `--buf-delay for adding in buf-delay) I thought firefogg was tracking j^'s nightly? If the encoder has two-pass it has --buf-delay. Does firefog perhaps need to be changed to expose it? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Video transcoding settings Was: [54611] trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/WikiAtHome.php
yea was using the wrong version of ffmpeg2theora locally ;)... Thanks for the reminder, updated our ffmpeg2theora encode command in r55042 ... an update to firefogg should support the --buf-delay argument shortly as well. --michael Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:29 PM, d...@svn.wikimedia.org wrote: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/54611 Revision: 54611 Author: dale Date: 2009-08-07 21:29:26 + (Fri, 07 Aug 2009) Log Message: --- added a explicit keyframeInterval per gmaxwell's mention on wikitech-l. (I get ffmpeg2theora: unrecognized option `--buf-delay for adding in buf-delay) I thought firefogg was tracking j^'s nightly? If the encoder has two-pass it has --buf-delay. Does firefog perhaps need to be changed to expose it? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] identifier collisions
dan nessett wrote: One of the first problems to solve in developing the proposed CPRT is how to call a function with the same name in two different MW distributions. I can think of 3 ways: 1) use the Namespace facility of PHP 5.3, 2) use threads, or 3) use separate process and IPC. Since MAMP supports none of these I am off building an AMP installation from scratch. I think if you spent half as much time reading the PHP manual as posting clueless questions to this list, you would know that neither of the first two options can work. Namespaces because even if we did use them, the different versions would necessarily be in the same namespace, and threads because PHP does not have them (despite appearances to the contrary noted by Dmitriy Sintsov). * Is MW thread safe? It would be rather hard for MW to not be thread safe, since PHP does not expose any thread-related functions to the user. It has no inter-thread communication or data sharing, and no way to create new threads. It does have threads at the SAPI level, but that's irrelevant to your current problem. And please, spare us from your rant about how terrible this is. It's not PHP's fault that you don't know anything about it. -- Tim Starling ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Test, Build Deploy practices
Hello, Just out of curiosity, now consider if a security hole in mediawiki was identified, how does wikipedia manage to roll out the new patch to all servers? Any formal steps? Tesing? Regression? UAT? Any build/deployment scripts can be shared? Thanks. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
