Re: [Wikitech-l] Most Popular Bugs (was Re: Highest Priority Bugs)
#674 is almost ready. It is waiting for someone (most probably me) do the clean up of the patch for about three years. I have also looked into #83, but stopped because I was unable to determine how should I store those interproject links. --vvv ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Most Popular Bugs (was Re: Highest Priority Bugs)
On 03/16/2011 02:05 AM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: 33Implement the Interlanguage extension in Wikipedia http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15607 Some of these are being worked on (#4547, #15607), some have patches I'd say it's done. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Most Popular Bugs (was Re: Highest Priority Bugs)
2011/3/16 Mark A. Hershberger mhershber...@wikimedia.org: 116 Support collation by a certain locale (sorting order of characters) http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/164 This support is now in MW with the category collation code Aryeh wrote, and developers can now proceed to write language-specific collations if they want to. Currently we only support the 'uppercase and 'uca-default' collations. 'uppercase' just runs everything through $wgLang-uc() , 'uca-default' uses UCA (Unicode-based algorithm). I think we want to be using UCA on Wikimedia, but we currently use uppercase because UCA requires packages that aren't currently installed on the Apaches. I hear ops is working on upgrading all Apaches to lucid, though, which will make installing those packages much much easier. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Highest Priority Bugs
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: Normal shell users can execute all but one of the steps required for wiki creation: root access is needed to create the DNS entry for the new subdomain. Previously we just had RobH handle all wiki creations, but he's been working almost exclusively on setting up the Virginia datacenter for a while now AFAIK. I previously suggested on IRC that we could have regular shell users like Ashar do the wiki creations at a scheduled time and assign a root to do the DNS stuff for them. Why is a rootuser needed for changing DNS entries? A zonefile is a normal textfile, after all - and if you use PowerDNS on one server configured as supermaster with a MySQL backend and other servers with PowerDNS as superslave (backend is not important there), you don't even need shell access to manage your DNS. Not even for creating new zones, as the supermaster makes all slaves automatically sync those zones where the invidual slaveserver is listed with a NS entry. /powerdns_ad Marco ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] A good question
Imagine a user approaches you and asks What are significant changes between 1.16 and 1.17? What would you answer? --vvv ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] A good question
On Mar 16, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Victor Vasiliev wrote: Imagine a user approaches you and asks What are significant changes between 1.16 and 1.17? Try marketing-l. Domas ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] A good question
Faster page loading speed because of the Resource Loader? On 3/16/11, Victor Vasiliev vasi...@gmail.com wrote: Imagine a user approaches you and asks What are significant changes between 1.16 and 1.17? What would you answer? --vvv ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] A good question
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Victor Vasiliev vasi...@gmail.com wrote: Imagine a user approaches you and asks What are significant changes between 1.16 and 1.17? The preliminary release notes in source control describe the changes so far between 1.16 and 1.17: http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/REL1_17/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES. -- Yours cordially, Jesse (Pathoschild) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] GitHub Mirror of the svn repository
I noticed that there's a github mirror of the svn repository at https://github.com/mediawiki, but it is rather out of date. Any idea if/when it could be made up-to-date again? I volunteer to help if it is necessary. -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] A good question
On 3/16/11 6:34 AM, Victor Vasiliev wrote: Imagine a user approaches you and asks What are significant changes between 1.16 and 1.17? What would you answer? For typical users, or people who administer a wiki: - New installer. - New frontend JS framework. That said, significant is relative. There are a lot of miscellaneous changes, but they were all important bugs for someone. -- Neil Kandalgaonkar |) ne...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] GitHub Mirror of the svn repository
Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed that there's a github mirror of the svn repository at https://github.com/mediawiki, but it is rather out of date. Any idea if/when it could be made up-to-date again? Can't help you with github, but I keep an almost-live mirror of the MediaWiki SVN here if you can use Mercurial: http://bitbucket.org/mediawiki/test/ I recommend using ssh for checkout. Good thing: revision numbers match svn revision numbers. //Marcin ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] GitHub Mirror of the svn repository
Its been broken since January. It was largely a proof of concept and shouldn't be used for any real work. I haven't put any effort into fixing it. Long-term, we're looking at a migration to git, but not on Github. -Chad On Mar 16, 2011 11:28 AM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed that there's a github mirror of the svn repository at https://github.com/mediawiki, but it is rather out of date. Any idea if/when it could be made up-to-date again? I volunteer to help if it is necessary. -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] GitHub Mirror of the svn repository
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Its been broken since January. It was largely a proof of concept and shouldn't be used for any real work. I haven't put any effort into fixing it. Long-term, we're looking at a migration to git, but not on Github. Could the owners of the github and gitorious mirrors update the project descriptions to indicate that they're inactive? I've taken the liberty of adding notes at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gitto the effect that the mirrors are inactive and out of date. Thanks! -- brion -Chad On Mar 16, 2011 11:28 AM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed that there's a github mirror of the svn repository at https://github.com/mediawiki, but it is rather out of date. Any idea if/when it could be made up-to-date again? I volunteer to help if it is necessary. -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] GitHub Mirror of the svn repository
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Its been broken since January. It was largely a proof of concept and shouldn't be used for any real work. I haven't put any effort into fixing it. Long-term, we're looking at a migration to git, but not on Github. Could the owners of the github and gitorious mirrors update the project descriptions to indicate that they're inactive? I thought I had access to do this, but apparently not. CC'ing Ævar :) I'm not sure who runs the gitorious mirror. -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] GitHub Mirror of the svn repository
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Could the owners of the github and gitorious mirrors update the project descriptions to indicate that they're inactive? I thought I had access to do this, but apparently not. CC'ing Ævar :) I'm not sure who runs the gitorious mirror. Appears to belong to some mysterious 'svnmirror' user who's mirrored a number of projects... and not updated anything since last summer. :( http://gitorious.org/~svnmirror -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] GitHub Mirror of the svn repository
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Could the owners of the github and gitorious mirrors update the project descriptions to indicate that they're inactive? I thought I had access to do this, but apparently not. CC'ing Ævar :) I'm not sure who runs the gitorious mirror. Appears to belong to some mysterious 'svnmirror' user who's mirrored a number of projects... and not updated anything since last summer. :( http://gitorious.org/~svnmirror (I sent a message to that user on Gitorious asking to either add us as admins for the Gitorious 'mediawiki' project or rename it away so we can add our own in that spot that can have a copy of our official mirror.) -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Special:ListFiles
I found that [[Special:ListFiles]] is enabled on Commons. Very nice, especially the separation of author (though titled User) and description. Too lazy to look it up - is this grabbed from the rendered HTML, or stored in the database? If it's the latter, is there a special page to list the files by author, instead of by uploader? Does it work for all authors, or only Commons users? Magnus ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] GitHub Mirror of the svn repository
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Could the owners of the github and gitorious mirrors update the project descriptions to indicate that they're inactive? I thought I had access to do this, but apparently not. CC'ing Ævar :) I'm not sure who runs the gitorious mirror. Appears to belong to some mysterious 'svnmirror' user who's mirrored a number of projects... and not updated anything since last summer. :( http://gitorious.org/~svnmirror (I sent a message to that user on Gitorious asking to either add us as admins for the Gitorious 'mediawiki' project or rename it away so we can add our own in that spot that can have a copy of our official mirror.) -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l Imho svnmirror sounds like a official account for mirroring svns, run by Gitorious. You should poke the people at Gitorious too, no one is going to log into that account anytime soon. -- John ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] ie9 webm components
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/03/16/html5-video-update-webm-for-ie9.aspx It appears to be a little rough around the edges, but should bode well for Wikimedia video support as IE 9 starts to be pushed out to windows machines and ideally we won't have ie7 and 8 for as long as we have had IE6 ;) If you have not already seen it, the TimedMediaHandler extension supports transcoding to both webm and ogg for mediawiki video assets: http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/Main_Page I will integrate links to http://tools.google.com/dlpage/webmmf/ for IE9 users in the mwEmbed player once the components are working a bit more smoothly. peace, --michael ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Special:ListFiles
Just a few quick notes: - It's part of 1.17 core and should work on all wmf wikis now. - It doesn't list by author, as such the label user is correct (perhaps uploader, but not author). - It lists all files uploaded by a certain account, just like Special:Contributions. - There's also a shortcut [[Special:Myuploads]]. -- Krinkle Op 17 mrt 2011, om 00:11 heeft Magnus Manske het volgende geschreven: I found that [[Special:ListFiles]] is enabled on Commons. Very nice, especially the separation of author (though titled User) and description. Too lazy to look it up - is this grabbed from the rendered HTML, or stored in the database? If it's the latter, is there a special page to list the files by author, instead of by uploader? Does it work for all authors, or only Commons users? Magnus ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] ie9 webm components
On 11-03-16 05:29 PM, Michael Dale wrote: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/03/16/html5-video-update-webm-for-ie9.aspx It appears to be a little rough around the edges, but should bode well for Wikimedia video support as IE 9 starts to be pushed out to windows machines and ideally we won't have ie7 and 8 for as long as we have had IE6 ;) If you have not already seen it, the TimedMediaHandler extension supports transcoding to both webm and ogg for mediawiki video assets: http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/Main_Page I will integrate links to http://tools.google.com/dlpage/webmmf/ for IE9 users in the mwEmbed player once the components are working a bit more smoothly. peace, --michael Think again, ie8 is the next ie6... knew that before someone blogged about it: http://infrequently.org/2010/10/ie-8-is-the-new-ie-6/ -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] ie9 webm components
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: Think again, ie8 is the next ie6... knew that before someone blogged about it: http://infrequently.org/2010/10/ie-8-is-the-new-ie-6/ IE8 will not survive anywhere close to as long as IE6 did, for two reasons: 1) The major reason for not upgrading from IE6 is intranet apps. IE9 includes an IE8 compatibility mode. It's probably not perfect, but if your app works in IE8, it will normally work fine in IE9 with little effort. That was not the case at all when upgrading from IE6 to IE7: there would often be no way to do it without rewriting substantial parts of your application. 2) IE6 was released in August 2001, and IE7 was released in October 2006 -- over five years later. IE8 was released in March 2009, and IE9 was released in March 2011 -- about two years later. People will only start migrating away from the old version when the new version is released, and that gives IE8's demise a three-year lead over IE6's right there. The big impediment to IE9 adoption will be lack of XP support. But I very much doubt that any large number of Vista or 7 users will still be on IE8 three or four years from now, let alone ten. IE9's adoption rate will look much more like IE8's did. For comparison, IE8 was released two years ago, and our stats have it at about two-thirds of IE's overall market share, roughly twice IE7: http://stats.wikimedia.org/archive/squid_reports/2011-02/SquidReportClients.htm I'd give comparisons to IE7 market share in October 2008, but we don't have any, it seems. Moreover, IE8 is not and never will be quite the nightmare that IE6 was. The reason IE6 was such a horrible problem wasn't because it was slow, or didn't support cutting-edge features. It's because it implemented critical functionality very differently from other browsers. IE6 does CSS very differently from any other browser, so you have to do your CSS twice: once for IE6 and once for everyone else. IE8 doesn't implement as much CSS as other browsers, but what it does it does well. It's as CSS 2.1-compliant as any browser out there -- perhaps even the most CSS 2.1-compliant browser. So if you just avoid CSS3 features, or use them only for aesthetic touches that not all users have to get, writing CSS for IE8 is no problem. One reason developing for IE8 will still stink is because scripting is still very different from other browsers. IE9 has made enormous progress toward running scripts written for other browsers. It's not same markup, but it's not too far off. I've been writing various web standards tests in JavaScript over the last few months, testing initially in Chrome and then tweaking for other browsers. For the most part, IE9 doesn't require too much more tweaking than Firefox or Opera to get it to work. IE8 is simply hopeless -- I don't even try. (Fortunately, web standards tests can get away with only working in the latest version of every browser.) Terrible performance and lack of support for canvas etc. are an issue with IE8 too, but I wouldn't think those are the biggest. Still, all in all, there's reason to be optimistic about the future of web development. Not only are fancy new features being added, but new versions of browsers are really becoming more and more interoperable, in a very noticeable way. Three multi-billion dollar corporations plus two in the hundred-million-plus range are all working on five competing browsers. I don't think we're going to see any desktop browser as terrible as IE6 -- even compared to its cutting-edge competitors -- for the foreseeable future. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
