Re: [Wikitech-l] User signature time wrapped in a span
Yes, you would have to change it at Parser.php That point would be the appropiate one. However, given the large amount of already-posted timestamps (and that some people may not want the spans in the wiki source), why not simply use a regex to replace the dates in the page? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] User signature time wrapped in a span
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.comwrote: On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:34:28 -0700, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: Parsing the timestamps in the text is a bit tough as it may be different in different languages my recommendation is to include a 'data-timestamp' attribute on that span and put in a language-independent machine-readable timestamp format. Note that if HTML5 is enabled on a wiki we should already support the basic time element. http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/text-level-semantics.html#the-time-element Niiice. That's better than a custom attribute, yes. -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] User signature time wrapped in a span
I recently tried to create a small javascript to parse user signature times on talk pages [1]. With it the readers would have been able to see the signature's timestamp in their preferred timezone (and as a side effect it would be consistent with the revision history) without breaking caching. The main problem I had was that MediaWiki didn't provide a class attribute wrapping the date nor the whole signature. There is a bug report on that topic: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25141 After some time spent looking for a system message it seems the only solution is to edit includes/parser/Parser.php. I added a span with a class at this line: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=includes/parser/Parser.php;h=5b14ad21b951e81980ed6841876f259eb057dd87;hb=HEAD#l4532 It works fine (at least in my own - limited - case). Some questions related to what I've done: - Would it be possible to wrap dates, or at least signatures in a class, as suggested in bug #25141? it may be useful for others too -- or perhaps to have a system message for dates (I'm not sure it's a good idea) - Is Parser.php the good place for that? - Would a similar solution see its way into MediaWiki some day? or are there problems I'm not seeing? (I'm not suggesting my script would be it, it's a quick and dirty hack created with very limited knowledge.) [1] using Moment.js http://momentjs.com/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] User signature time wrapped in a span
Well, the *proper* fix is a sane discussion system where messages are first-class objects and timestamps are clean metadata that can be displayed appropriately. :) As a hack for existing talk pages though, what you're proposing should work. Parsing the timestamps in the text is a bit tough as it may be different in different languages my recommendation is to include a 'data-timestamp' attribute on that span and put in a language-independent machine-readable timestamp format. See also older discussion on bug 5347 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5347 and 19992 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19992 about possible implementations of this sort of thing. -- brion On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Cyril misdre+mediaw...@gmail.com wrote: I recently tried to create a small javascript to parse user signature times on talk pages [1]. With it the readers would have been able to see the signature's timestamp in their preferred timezone (and as a side effect it would be consistent with the revision history) without breaking caching. The main problem I had was that MediaWiki didn't provide a class attribute wrapping the date nor the whole signature. There is a bug report on that topic: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25141 After some time spent looking for a system message it seems the only solution is to edit includes/parser/Parser.php. I added a span with a class at this line: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=includes/parser/Parser.php;h=5b14ad21b951e81980ed6841876f259eb057dd87;hb=HEAD#l4532 It works fine (at least in my own - limited - case). Some questions related to what I've done: - Would it be possible to wrap dates, or at least signatures in a class, as suggested in bug #25141? it may be useful for others too -- or perhaps to have a system message for dates (I'm not sure it's a good idea) - Is Parser.php the good place for that? - Would a similar solution see its way into MediaWiki some day? or are there problems I'm not seeing? (I'm not suggesting my script would be it, it's a quick and dirty hack created with very limited knowledge.) [1] using Moment.js http://momentjs.com/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] User signature time wrapped in a span
On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:34:28 -0700, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: Parsing the timestamps in the text is a bit tough as it may be different in different languages my recommendation is to include a 'data-timestamp' attribute on that span and put in a language-independent machine-readable timestamp format. Note that if HTML5 is enabled on a wiki we should already support the basic time element. -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
