RE: [WinPcap-users] Linux and Wine

2004-07-30 Thread Fulvio Risso

 -Original Message-
 From: Loris Degioanni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: giovedì 29 luglio 2004 19.01
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [WinPcap-users] Linux and Wine


 I hardly believe that the NPF device driver, one of the main components of
 WinPcap, will be able to run in an operating system different
 from Windows.
 Actually, I'd consider it a software miracle.

Loris, I know of users thar were able to capture on a wmware Win2k machine,
hosted on Linux.


 BTW, why do you need WinPcap on Linux?

For running Analyzer?
 ;-)

fulvio

 There's already native support for
 libpcap on that platform.

 Loris


  Has anyone been able to get WinPCap to run properly on wine for linux?
 
  Josh Austin
 
 
 
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Re: [WinPcap-users] Linux and Wine

2004-07-30 Thread Guy Harris
On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 09:48:15AM +0200, Fulvio Risso wrote:
  From: Loris Degioanni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I hardly believe that the NPF device driver, one of the main components of
  WinPcap, will be able to run in an operating system different
  from Windows.
  Actually, I'd consider it a software miracle.
 
 Loris, I know of users thar were able to capture on a wmware Win2k machine,
 hosted on Linux.

Yes, that'd work - but it's not running in an operating system different
from Windows, it's running on W2K.  W2K happens to be running on a
simulated PC inside VMWare on Windows, but that's different from running
WinPcap and a WinPcap application directly on Linux - for one thing, it
can only capture on the simulated network devices, but I don't know
whether that'd let you get traffic from the real network interface.


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RE: [WinPcap-users] Linux and Wine

2004-07-30 Thread Fulvio Risso
Hi Guy.

 -Original Message-
 From: Guy Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: venerdi 30 luglio 2004 10.00
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [WinPcap-users] Linux and Wine


 On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 09:48:15AM +0200, Fulvio Risso wrote:
   From: Loris Degioanni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   I hardly believe that the NPF device driver, one of the main
 components of
   WinPcap, will be able to run in an operating system different
   from Windows.
   Actually, I'd consider it a software miracle.
 
  Loris, I know of users thar were able to capture on a wmware
 Win2k machine,
  hosted on Linux.

 Yes, that'd work - but it's not running in an operating system different
 from Windows, it's running on W2K.  W2K happens to be running on a
 simulated PC inside VMWare on Windows,

No: in my case WinPcap was running on W2k which was running on wmware which
was running on Linux.

 but that's different from running
 WinPcap and a WinPcap application directly on Linux -

Yes, this is different from running an app on Wine, I agree.
But this demonstrates that, at least for wmware developers, they did a
pretty nice job.


 for one thing, it
 can only capture on the simulated network devices, but I don't know
 whether that'd let you get traffic from the real network interface.

I was able to capture all the traffic on the net, on the 'bridged' adapter
(if I remember well).

fulvio



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Re: [WinPcap-users] Linux and Wine

2004-07-29 Thread Loris Degioanni
I hardly believe that the NPF device driver, one of the main components of
WinPcap, will be able to run in an operating system different from Windows.
Actually, I'd consider it a software miracle.
BTW, why do you need WinPcap on Linux? There's already native support for
libpcap on that platform.

Loris


 Has anyone been able to get WinPCap to run properly on wine for linux?

 Josh Austin



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Re: [WinPcap-users] Linux and Wine

2004-07-29 Thread Guy Harris
On Jul 29, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Loris Degioanni wrote:
I hardly believe that the NPF device driver, one of the main 
components of
WinPcap, will be able to run in an operating system different from 
Windows.
Actually, I'd consider it a software miracle.
That's what it would be.  Wine handles *userland* Windows code; as far 
as I know, it makes little, if any, attempt to handle *kernel* code 
such as the NPF drivers.

BTW, why do you need WinPcap on Linux?
To run closed-source or Windows-only-and-hard-to-port WinPcap-based 
applications?

There's already native support for libpcap on that platform.
...which, for the ambitious Wine hacker, could be the basis of a Wine 
wpcap.dll, to handle WinPcap APIs that are also in libpcap, or that 
could be implemented atop libpcap APIs, by forwarding them to the 
native libpcap.


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